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The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

I get it. He wants to build a brand as an investigative reporter and digging deeper into how BB enabled her and the level of friction that caused the UNC AD dept and UNC leadership is a story.

It feels like we already know enough already.
I can see why Mike Florio talked to him... this is what Florio was years ago
 
Torre’s just fishing for anything. He’s gotten a lot of mileage from this story so far and chances are there’s more newsworthy stuff in there.
 
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I get it. He wants to build a brand as an investigative reporter and digging deeper into how BB enabled her and the level of friction that caused the UNC AD dept and UNC leadership is a story.

It feels like we already know enough already.
You're giving him too much credit. He's a failed sports journalist who has stumbled into a way to get some clicks so he's going to try and milk it for as much as he can.
 
Debatable but I meant a Belichick fan.
DeBaTAbLE
 
I'm not the one making things up to push their agenda lol
No you’re just gaslighting everyone to push your agenda.

Your problem is how angry you get when anyone dares criticize your hero. You get so angry that you can’t even recognize obvious humor.

Jokes about Belichick enrage you so much that you take them literally, reinforcing your hatred. It’s hilarious to watch just how much you’ve lost your mind when discussing this topic.
 
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You know the things you have said and done in your war against Bill. Let's just say it's not something one would expect from a Patriots fan.
 
No you’re just gaslighting everyone to push your agenda.

Your problem is how angry you get when anyone dares criticize your hero. You get so angry that you can’t even recognize obvious humor.

Jokes about Belichick enrage you so much that you take them literally, reinforcing your hatred. It’s hilarious to watch just how much you’ve lost your mind when discussing this topic.
I don't believe you
 
You know the things you have said and done in your war against Bill. Let's just say it's not something one would expect from a Patriots fan.
"War against Bill"...ok
 
You're giving him too much credit. He's a failed sports journalist who has stumbled into a way to get some clicks so he's going to try and milk it for as much as he can.
I do think that is his plan. No question. Hes venturing into OK! and Us magazine territory if not there already.

He may find some more nuggets BB&B (BB and Bunny). Whatever.
 
I don't believe you
So in your obsessive hatred, you're accusing me of lying.... about..... reading a book.

WTF is wrong with you? Seriously. Step back from the computer and take a couple days off from here. It'll be for your own good.
 
So in your obsessive hatred, you're accusing me of lying.... about..... reading a book.

WTF is wrong with you? Seriously. Step back from the computer and take a couple days off from here. It'll be for your own good.
You said you had read a book which you infact had not just so that you could make fun of Bill more. Tell me how I'm wrong.

 
"War against Bill"...ok
Speaking for myself, I do not hate BB and am not at war with him.

I revere everything he did in making the Pats a dynasty.

I am disappointed in what he is doing now as it sullies his reputation.

I feel bad for his family as they have to deal with all of this. BB’s inheritance should rightly be going to his heirs, to a degree they helped him earn it, and his relationship with Bunny threatens all of that.

Maybe BB always had these proclivities and we just didn’t see it.

This is just a sad situation for those of us who revered the man, to have to watch.
 
This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say Bill's legacy is crumbling by his own doing.

Bill’s football legacy is fine, it’s his personal life people are questioning.
 
Yep and Rex had Mark Sanchez who isn't exactly Brady.

If Bill was canned after 01 or 02 maybe his work under Parcells helps him continue his career as a DC somewhere at some point? Definitely not a HC though.

Bill built the teams that won 6 Super Bowls, dismissing it as all Brady is horseshit. He put a **** ton of great players and coaches around Brady.
 
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Belichick as an HC without Brady:

11 years, 1 playoff win

I used to compare Belichick without Brady to Jeff Fisher, but then I realized how horrendously unfair that is. Jeff Fisher was much better than Belichick without Brady.
I've also heard a Wrecks Ryan comparison.

The most revealing part is that Bill had 8 losing seasons in those 11 without Brady, and he did it with the Pats and another team. No other supposed top HC has more than 3 losing seasons and most have less.
 
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I've also heard a Wrecks Ryan comparison.

The most revealing part is that Bill had 8 losing seasons in those 11 without Brady, and he did it with the Pats and another team. No other supposed top HC has more than 3 losing seasons and most have less.
You can't just erase two thirds of a man's career (the best 2/3s) and think you are making any kind of a fair comparison. It's the most rediculous thing that you guys do.

Also there aren't that many coaches with 20 plus years to their name to make a fair comparison to and they all come up significantly short of Bill's 6 HC SB titles.

but of coaches in that category Knoll and Laundry have a similar number of losing seasons (and for all 3 most of the losing was at the beginning and end).

I didn't look at everyone.
 
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You can't just erase two thirds of a man's career (the best 2/3s) and think you are making any kind of a fair comparison. It's the most rediculous thing that you guys do.
Bill sans Brady is part of BB's story. "Fair" or not.
 
He might have passed his prime or Kraft ripped the rug out from underneath him too soon. We'll see how the next few years go. But either way his 8 Superbowls will never get passed by anyone. As hard as you try to manipulate the numbers those rings will always be there.
Having 8 as a coach isn't even in the same ballpark as 7 as a QB. That's your problem.
 
Bill sans Brady is part of BB's story. "Fair" or not.
Never heard anyone talk about the story of Lombardi without Starr, Noll without Bradshaw, Landry without Staubach, Reid without Mahomes, or to put it another way if you're going to properly compare any coach to Bill without Brady you should first eliminate the best 2/3s of their career first.

So since Fisher was your comp you would have take away his SB appearance and of his 22 seasons if you remove 2/3s of his best years he doesn't have one winning season.
 
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