NFL Draft Talk

[KCSVEN]

Can still get Campbell, pick up another 3rd to move back up for a WR. Egbuka in the mid 20s.

Somehow Getting Emeka Egbuka would be a home run in my book even if you give up quite a bit.

Unfortunately, he seems well liked by most teams so very real possibility he does not get passed Broncos at 20 but if Pats can trade down a little bit, they can then have more ammo to trade back up to try to get him.

Egbuka really is a plug in day 1 receiver, unlike Polk who was always a likely bust based on poor separation rates in college.
Probably take a 2, the better 3 and a 4 to get to 20 and a 2 and the better 3 to get to 24.

Not hopeful but really want them to land Egbuka.

 

[Steve102]

I think any T taken at #4 is going to be heavily scrutinized because they are rated as high as prospects from the past. If they were viewed as can't miss guys, we'd all want him.

And that's really the problem IMO. They trade back with the Raiders and take Campbell at #6, that's ok? Shouldn't make a bit of difference. This draft sucks, it is what it is. The Pats should be taking the first LT off the board, even if this year's draft is weak at LT. If they need to do it again next year, that's ok too. Absolutely no one here would ***** if they took a WR every year with the R1 pick. No. One. If it's Campbell, and the intangibles are accurate, this guy is going to be here, productive, in some fashion, for a long time.

 

[Steve102]

Somehow Getting Emeka Egbuka would be a home run in my book even if you give up quite a bit.

Unfortunately, he seems well liked by most teams so very real possibility he does not get passed Broncos at 20 but if Pats can trade down a little bit, they can then have more ammo to trade back up to try to get him.

Egbuka really is a plug in day 1 receiver, unlike Polk who was always a likely bust based on poor separation rates in college.
Probably take a 2, the better 3 and a 4 to get to 20 and a 2 and the better 3 to get to 24.

Not hopeful but really want them to land Egbuka.

Egbuka is going in the teens IMO.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

I can't wait for the draft tomorrow, it's always mayhem in here

Praying we don't have another Trade back for Polk over McConkey moves...that 1 still fkn stings.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

The more posts I read, it's clear Campbell is going to be very controversial and heavily scrutinized if he's the pick.

Yes by me

 

[WhatJustHappened]

BoofknHoo

 

[Lansdowne]

Of course, we got LUCKY to get Waters, he probably wanted a Championship, so came over to try and get it.
NOONE at LT in the draft in PERFECT Intangible wise.
Are we going to kick the can down the road YET AGAIN?

I hear you, but if Campbell doesn't pan out at LT then we're kicking the can down the road again anyway. If there is any doubt in someone staying at LT then I don't think 4th overall is the spot to take that gamble. Get a better player at a different position, I don't care if it's offense or defense, and then either take a tackle at 38 (fair chance someone in the Simmons/Conerly/Ersery range is there) or trade down and take who's still there between Campbell, Membou, and Banks. Or trade back into the 1st and get someone that way. There is more than one way to do it, and as long as we're not trotting Lowe back out there I'm open to suggestions.

 

[Love The Drake]

Just read a article that said Patriots have had trade talks about moving down.

 

[Grogan14]

For all those who say we should take Campbell at 4- perhaps you do not think Scarnecchia knows what he is talking about when he said at 4 he advises taking someone who can score touchdowns NOT an OL

Hopefully Vrabel listens

 

[Rob0729]

 

[The Gr8est]

I hear you, but if Campbell doesn't pan out at LT then we're kicking the can down the road again anyway. If there is any doubt in someone staying at LT then I don't think 4th overall is the spot to take that gamble. Get a better player at a different position, I don't care if it's offense or defense, and then either take a tackle at 38 (fair chance someone in the Simmons/Conerly/Ersery range is there) or trade down and take who's still there between Campbell, Membou, and Banks. Or trade back into the 1st and get someone that way. There is more than one way to do it, and as long as we're not trotting Lowe back out there I'm open to suggestions.

It could be worse.

We could be one of the teams badly in need of a QB and stressing over Sanders and his lessers.

 

[Clonamery]

Just read a article that said Patriots have had trade talks about moving down.

Cool, I'm happy for you.

 

[BobDigital]

Honestly I kind of just want the first round over with. Let me stop getting my hopes up for Hunter and allow me to start the process of settling for Campbell.... Though if he does end up moving to guard I am NOT going to be one of those people saying that's okay. CAUSE IT'S NOT OKAY! I don't care if he turns out to be one of the top guards in the league. You don't pick guards with the 4th overall pick. No matter how good he is, that would be a miss in my book. So he damn well better be a pretty good LT if that happens. Or at least a top end RT. Anything else is entirely unacceptable.

 

[The Gr8est]

Honestly I kind of just want the first round over with. Let me stop getting my hopes up for Hunter and allow me to start the process of settling for Campbell.... Though if he does end up moving to guard I am NOT going to be one of those people saying that's okay. CAUSE IT'S NOT OKAY! I don't care if he turns out to be one of the top guards in the league. You don't pick guards with the 4th overall pick. No matter how good he is, that would be a miss in my book. So he damn well better be a pretty good LT if that happens. Or at least a top end RT. Anything else is entirely unacceptable.

Top end RT?

There is already one there at 4.

Membou.

 

[mgteich]

I can't wait for the draft tomorrow, it's always mayhem in here

Praying we don't have another Trade back for Polk over McConkey moves...that 1 still fkn stings.

yup, it was gross incompetence to lose out on DeJean!

 

[Clonamery]

Top end RT?

There is already one there at 4.

Membou.

You don't pick a RT at #4. Unless the Blue Chip quality of players is more than 1 1/2 players.

 

[DaBruinz]

You don't pick a RT at #4. Unless the Blue Chip quality of players is more than 1 1/2 players.

Membou is 20. He's an excellent prospect. If they feel they could move him to LT and that his transition would be fine, then I could see it.

The question becomes why wasn't he at LT in College. Well, the Mizzou Tigers had Javon Foster at LT prior and then Marcus Bryant transferred from SMU.

At 6'3, Membou is slighter shorter than many of the OTs today. The fact that he's so young, raw, but talented is why he's being talked about so highly.

I wouldn't take him at 4 unless it was to protect a left-handed QB, but, stranger things have happened. Like a team drafting a college LT in the 1st round to play LG.

 

[Clonamery]

Membou is 20. He's an excellent prospect. If they feel they could move him to LT and that his transition would be fine, then I could see it.

The question becomes why wasn't he at LT in College. Well, the Mizzou Tigers had Javon Foster at LT prior and then Marcus Bryant transferred from SMU.

At 6'3, Membou is slighter shorter than many of the OTs today. The fact that he's so young, raw, but talented is why he's being talked about so highly.

I wouldn't take him at 4 unless it was to protect a left-handed QB, but, stranger things have happened. Like a team drafting a college LT in the 1st round to play LG.

My point is not really about Membou but the lack of Blue Chip players at the top. The unquestionable prospects that can't miss. It's not this Draft. That's all.

 

[varjao]

I'm exhausted, want this to be over soon so I can focus on other things.

Hunter won't be there, I'm on Team Campbell for a long time, as it's pretty clear by now, ideal scenario is taking him after a small trade down, but if they are locked in on him, they should not drop too many positions or they risk losing him. If they trade with the Raiders it's almost guaranteed they can still get Campbell but the reward would not be too much, maybe a 3rd round pick. If they trade with the Bears probably a 2nd but there's a huge risk someone take Campbell, after all, his stock is rising with all these Patriots rumors.

After Campbell who is ranked the #1 LT on this class like you or not, I don't like the "2nd tier" of LTs, Simmons, Membou and Banks. I'd rather go in another direction and get the guys available at #38, I think Ersery will be there, I like him more than Connerly who probably goes before #38. There's a risk even Ersery is gone so the Pats can't really take that risk. I would like them to have a choice and get the first LT in their board, if they really intend to do so.

I get that people are complaining that we are not getting exceptional talent at #4 in Campbell (that remains to be seen), but you don't need exceptional talent at LT to win in the NFL. Right now I don't know even how to qualify what we have, because it's far and far away from even adequate level.

I like the Jeanty idea, I won't be mad, in a draft like this, sometimes thinking outside the box or conventional wisdom is a thing you have to consider. In the short term, he'll probably bring more joy than Campbell. He's gonna feast in those short goal line situations, 1st and goal at the 5 yard mark but hey, Rham can score those as well, just like any other good RB. There are great RB's in this draft in the 2nd round some can even fall to 3rd. I get back to the basic idea that you just don't draft a RB that high at #4, it's not something against the player, it's just a method. Over a long term vision, good O-Line will provide much more TD's and giving us a better chance at post season than a phenomenal RB.

WR? Yeah, still a need. The top of the 1st round is just like for LTs, not great, I don't like Tet at all, the value is after the 20's and top of the 2nd round. I like Egbuka a lot but don't think the Pats will have a shot.

 

[Uptown]