Patriots Player Departure BREAKING: Joe Milton traded to Dallas

[sb1]

Not sure setting your goals high and aspiring to a competition for the starting job is bad.

Bad - no. Delusional maybe.

He never had a fair chance to compete for starting job

Maye is 3 years younger than Milton and he's already better at everything about the QB position. No need for a competition.

 

[Lansdowne]

Not sure setting your goals high and aspiring to a competition for the starting job is bad.
He never had a fair chance to compete for starting job

It shouldn’t surprise anyone that an organization has higher expectations for a player they invested a 1st round pick in than a player they invested a 6th round pick in.

Expecting him to get a chance to unseat Maye based off a one-game sample size is wild. If Milton wanted a chance to become a starter, he needed to be patient and earn the backup role first. The backup to the backup doesn’t get to make demands.

 

[sb1]

It shouldn’t surprise anyone that an organization has higher expectations for a player they invested a 1st round pick in than a player they invested a 6th round pick in.

Expecting him to get a chance to unseat Maye based off a one-game sample size is wild. If Milton wanted a chance to become a starter, he needed to be patient and earn the backup role first. The backup to the backup doesn’t get to make demands.

Yeah. And Brian Hoyer never got a chance to compete for the starting job with Tom Brady. I don't think that means he should have.

 

[Lansdowne]

Yeah. And Brian Hoyer never got a chance to compete for the starting job with Tom Brady. I don't think that means he should have.

Speaking of Brady, he’s spent his whole football career fighting for his spot on the team. Backup QB on an 0-8 JV team as a HS freshman. 7th on the QB depth chart as a freshman at Michigan and sharing reps with Drew Henson his final two years. 4th on the QB depth chart as a Patriots rookie after waiting until the 6th round to hear his name called. Earned the backup role before the end of his rookie season, kept that role the following year when Belichick brought in Damon Huard as competition for the QB2 spot. And we all know the story once Bledsoe went down.

Brady’s steady rise to the top was earned through hard work and honing his craft. Earn the coach’s trust, every day in practice, in training, on the field, and good things will come. Milton thought he was owed his opportunities rather than earning them. That’s why he’s not here anymore. Anyone thinking Milton deserved to challenge for the QB1 spot right away is delusional, and that includes Milton himself.

 

[The Gr8est]

Speaking of Brady, he’s spent his whole football career fighting for his spot on the team. Backup QB on an 0-8 JV team as a HS freshman. 7th on the QB depth chart as a freshman at Michigan and sharing reps with Drew Henson his final two years. 4th on the QB depth chart as a Patriots rookie after waiting until the 6th round to hear his name called. Earned the backup role before the end of his rookie season, kept that role the following year when Belichick brought in Damon Huard as competition for the QB2 spot. And we all know the story once Bledsoe went down.

Brady’s steady rise to the top was earned through hard work and honing his craft. Earn the coach’s trust, every day in practice, in training, on the field, and good things will come. Milton thought he was owed his opportunities rather than earning them. That’s why he’s not here anymore. Anyone thinking Milton deserved to challenge for the QB1 spot right away is delusional, and that includes Milton himself.

Brady’s story is still nothing short of amazing.

He is a comet that shone brightly, and will never be seen again.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

Could be great but odds are much better that he won't pan out in the league.

I don't think Maye cares that much whether Milton is on the team or not. The team didn't see him as competition for Maye nor should they. Milton is a 25 year old project, nothing more right now. Most projects don't pan out and probably even less at that age.

I want the pats to do well this season...

Dobbs sucks... if Maye goes down I hope you enjoy your back up...( and i love Dobbs as a tn fan his hail Mary against Ga was one of the best games I have ever seen)

Milton is a better qb than Dobbs. Full stop.

It was a bad decision... which the pats seem full of in the last 5 to 6 years.

I like vrabel... but bringing in Dobbs was a fd decision.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

Bad - no. Delusional maybe.

Maye is 3 years younger than Milton and he's already better at everything about the QB position. No need for a competition.

Then let him be a cheap back up...

 

[TheRainMaker]

Not sure setting your goals high and aspiring to a competition for the starting job is bad.
He never had a fair chance to compete for starting job

It's politics. Even though Brady was allegedly outplaying Bledsoe in training camp, he was never going to win the starting job because Bledsoe just signed a $100M contract. In fact, he'd have to play so bad during the season in order for them to pull him and start Brady full time.

Maye was the 3rd overall selection and even he was held out in favor of Brissett. Milton was being delusional thinking he should be given the opportunity as a 6th round pick. Zappe was supposedly doing the same thing and his ass should've been shown the door before Mac Jones. That was a really bad look on the organization, but glad they fixed it by releasing him shortly after.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Career NFL wins Maye-1, Milton -1.

1 game, Maye won one game! Never scored more than 20 points. I can't see how he is any better than Daniel Jones.

Milton has all the talent in the world. I think he would have outplayed Maye.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Not sure setting your goals high and aspiring to a competition for the starting job is bad.
He never had a fair chance to compete for starting job

Because they drafted QB1 with the third pick last year. NO franchise is going to have an honest competition between a high 1, and a 6th rounder drafter the same year. And I sincerely doubt Milton would have won a hypothetical one.

There’s a reason each guy was drafted where they were.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Career NFL wins Maye-1, Milton -1.

1 game, Maye won one game! Never scored more than 20 points. I can't see how he is any better than Daniel Jones.

Milton has all the talent in the world. I think he would have outplayed Maye.

Please.

I wonder how Maye would do over 17 games vs 3rd string defenses with teams that are indifferent to winning.....

 

[sb1]

I want the pats to do well this season...

Dobbs sucks... if Maye goes down I hope you enjoy your back up...( and i love Dobbs as a tn fan his hail Mary against Ga was one of the best games I have ever seen)

Maye is the best QB on this team by a mile. If he goes down does it matter who the backup is?

Milton is a better qb than Dobbs. Full stop.

1 game of meaningless football against a team that clearly couldn't give an eff isn't validation that he's better than anybody.

It was a bad decision... which the pats seem full of in the last 5 to 6 years.

I like vrabel... but bringing in Dobbs was a fd decision.

Jacoby was out the door so there wasn't a lot of other options out there.

 

[sb1]

Career NFL wins Maye-1, Milton -1.

1 game, Maye won one game! Never scored more than 20 points. I can't see how he is any better than Daniel Jones.

Milton has all the talent in the world. I think he would have outplayed Maye.

The thing is, anything Milton can do Maye can do better and he's 3 years younger. At his age Milton should be approaching his ceiling right now so this is as good as he'll ever get. Maye's upside is so much more than that.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Career NFL wins Maye-1, Milton -1.

1 game, Maye won one game! Never scored more than 20 points. I can't see how he is any better than Daniel Jones.

Milton has all the talent in the world. I think he would have outplayed Maye.

I was mostly with you until the last sentence. Milton only won the last game because the Bills treated worst than a 4th preseason game. But I agree there should be some concern with Maye getting only 1 win when there were opportunities for a few more. The talk all last offseason was that BB and Mac Jones were the problem. Once they got rid of Bill and another QB, they'd eclipse 4 wins easily and contend for a playoff spot. Those posters and media have pulled a Mayo and walked that **** walk real quick.

 

[Grogan14]

Just for a minute forget the draft position. Is it 100% impossible that Milton could have beat out Maye in a fair competition?
Milton has superior physical attributes (bigger, faster, stronger, stronger arm, better runner)
Isn’t it best for the team to let every position compete for their job in TC?
I thought this was BB mantra?
Every rookie must go out and compete.
Yes Maye was 3rd overall pick.
Let him go out there and prove he desrves to be starter.
He only has one year under his belt.
Its not like he is Patrick Mahomes. Maye has not proven anything yet.
I think Milton should have been given a chance to win the job.

The fact that Maye was #3 overall pick does not mean he is a guaranteed star.

Politics at play. It would embarrass the organization if Milton won the starting job. That is why he was traded for pennies on the dollar.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

I hope this doesn’t continue to fester.

I’m gonna go ahead and call ******** on him feeling threatened. The kid oozes confidence. If anyone got sand in their vag, it was Milton. Really sounds like Milton was being vocal in the locker room about thinking he could start. Of course some players are going to side with their dude not necessarily the starter. Vrabes saw/heard of it and knows they don’t need the division/drama this could cause and fixed it. They did Milton a solid by letting him catch on with another team and not forcing him to ride the pine/be on the scout team. This is just click/listen bait….that said, I feel we are in a good place to be qb wise.

Edit: goddamn autocorrect

 

[TheRainMaker]

Just for a minute forget the draft position. Is it 100% impossible that Milton could have beat out Maye in a fair competition?
Milton has superior physical attributes (bigger, faster, stronger, stronger arm, better runner)
Isn’t it best for the team to let every position compete for their job in TC?
I thought this was BB mantra?
Every rookie must go out and compete.
Yes Maye was 3rd overall pick.
Let him go out there and prove he desrves to be starter.
He only has one year under his belt.
Its not like he is Patrick Mahomes. Maye has not proven anything yet.
I think Milton should have been given a chance to win the job.

The fact that Maye was #3 overall pick does not mean he is a guaranteed star.

Politics at play. It would embarrass the organization if Milton won the starting job. That is why he was traded for pennies on the dollar.

No, as I stated in my prior post. You think Bill was going to start Brady over Bledsoe in 2001 after he just signed a record setting contract? Milton would've had to have been really special to beat out the 3rd overall pick.

I’m gonna go ahead and call ******** on him feeling threatened. The kid oozes confidence. If anyone got sand in their vag, it was Milton. Really sounds like Milton was being vocal in the locker room about thinking he could start. Of course some players are going to side with their dude not necessarily the starter. Vrabes saw/heard of it and knows they don’t need the division/drama this could cause and fixed it. They did Milton a solid by letting him catch on with another team and not forcing him to ride the pine/be on the scout team. This is just click/listen bait….that said, I feel we are in a good place to be qb wise.

Edit: goddamn autocorrect

I don't believe the rumor, but I think he's more annoyed that Milton is delusional thinking he should play like Jimmy G actually thought he was better than Tom Brady. You can't have those guys on the team.

 

[sb1]

Just for a minute forget the draft position. Is it 100% impossible that Milton could have beat out Maye in a fair competition?
Milton has superior physical attributes (bigger, faster, stronger, stronger arm, better runner)

Maye is just as strong as Milton and has an outstanding arm. He can read defenses, which Milton can't do plus he is accurate which Milton is not.

Isn’t it best for the team to let every position compete for their job in TC?
I thought this was BB mantra?
Every rookie must go out and compete.
Yes Maye was 3rd overall pick.
Let him go out there and prove he desrves to be starter.
He only has one year under his belt.
Its not like he is Patrick Mahomes. Maye has not proven anything yet.
I think Milton should have been given a chance to win the job.

The fact that Maye was #3 overall pick does not mean he is a guaranteed star.

That is true, and also the fact that Milton was a 6th round pick with an uncomplimentary scouting report doesn't automatically mean he's the next Tom Brady or even Brock Purdy either. Some fans seem to think he is. Brady is never happening again. Ever.

Odds are very high Milton will be exactly what what the scouting report says he is. A QB3 caliber guy and nothing more.

 

[Pape]

It shouldn’t surprise anyone that an organization has higher expectations for a player they invested a 1st round pick in than a player they invested a 6th round pick in.

Expecting him to get a chance to unseat Maye based off a one-game sample size is wild. If Milton wanted a chance to become a starter, he needed to be patient and earn the backup role first. The backup to the backup doesn’t get to make demands.

what hasn't been brought up or mentioned is that Milton had a chance from day 1 last year... every day in practice... If you are that good then your work should have had a coach and OC, who were so desperate for anything positive to happen - so desperate in fact they started Maye after only what, five games? - , standing up and taking notice.

 

[Huckleberry1]

It's not a given that Maye will be a good QB. Why trade a guy for peanuts? He is a better backup than whoever they have now.

Disagree with this. I think there is plenty of reason to believe in Drake Maye. Milton was going to vegetable in the QB room, getting rid of him was the right move.