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[Love The Drake]

Sad to see him go

He was the perfect Patriot

But it’s a new era.

He can get burnt in the East now.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Not to sound impatient but like god damn, can we sign someone else already. I'm getting antsy here!!!

I think what’s going on is that the players remaining aren’t of high quality, but teams are trying to address needs and are overpaying for them, and the Patriots don’t want to pay jags like stars. In which case good for them. This isn’t a one year rebuild, and they shouldn’t saddle themselves with mediocre players with big contracts.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Yeah, his play definitely dropped off last year. The whole defense's did though so I wonder how much was him vs. how much was a worse unit around him leaving him exposed.

Will be interesting to see if we make a move in the secondary now. Reports had us interested in keeping him, at some level. Now that he's gone I wonder if we pivot to signing a replacement. Or maybe they already consider Davis his replacement, but my guess is they still need another slot CB as insurance/depth with MJones and AN ACTUAL ****ING FREE SAFETY!!!

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I think what’s going on is that the players remaining aren’t of high quality, but teams are trying to address needs and are overpaying for them, and the Patriots don’t want to pay jags like stars. In which case good for them. This isn’t a one year rebuild, and they shouldn’t saddle themselves with mediocre players with big contracts.

Definitely fine with that logic. I don't want them to sign players just to sign players. I just love the team building part of the calendar so I'm itching for some more signings to analyze and talk about haha

 

[EMpats]

Comparing Tet and Harry is one of the most simpleton football takes of all time. It would take two minutes of YouTube clips to see how different they are as players.

Using the fact that they both played college football in the state of Arizona as an argument against him? Really??

 

[gardener123]

Hahaha. What I meant was he played at a time when guards were more crucial to the offense. Lots of power runs, Iso’s, and pulling. Less pass blocking.

Now Larry Allen was a freak who you could insert at any time in NFL history and he’s be the most dominant player on the field.

That said, I saw Allen play. Hannah was before my time so I’m just going on old film and what I know of that era. Maybe Hannah was more special than I’m aware.

I was 5 when Hannah retired.

I also might have a bias in believing the Pars sucked ass pre-Bledsoe/Brady because I became a fan in 1997 and could be attaching “good player on a garbage team” fallacy to Hannah’s career.

The Pats had a brief period of excellence under coach Chuck Fairbanks when Hannah (guard) and Leon Grey(tackle) played together. Pats had a great team when Fairbanks was fired or quit immediately before a playoff game; downhill after that until Parcels arrived.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Comparing Tet and Harry is one of the most simpleton football takes of all time. It would take two minutes of YouTube clips to see how different they are as players.

Using the fact that they both played college football in the state of Arizona as an argument against him? Really??

Because of how colossal a bust Harry was and the way it's perceived as the "final straw" for Brady in his battles with BB and our overall troubles before and after him drafting that position, people are just mentally scarred. It's PTSD. It's be a long time on this board before anyone here is ever able to make a rational evaluation of that profile of receiver lol

 

[patsfan7983]

I’m not concerned Wilson isn’t going to stop the Giants from taking Sanders if they want him.

Browns I think were always going Carter.

I was hoping they draft Hunter, now that they extended Garrett. Leaves Carter for us.

 

[signbabybrady]

Yeah, his play definitely dropped off last year. The whole defense's did though so I wonder how much was him vs. how much was a worse unit around him leaving him exposed.

Will be interesting to see if we make a move in the secondary now. Reports had us interested in keeping him, at some level. Now that he's gone I wonder if we pivot to signing a replacement. Or maybe they already consider Davis his replacement, but my guess is they still need another slot CB as insurance/depth with MJones and AN ACTUAL ****ING FREE SAFETY!!!

Hunter

 

[gardener123]

Comparing Tet and Harry is one of the most simpleton football takes of all time. It would take two minutes of YouTube clips to see how different they are as players.

Using the fact that they both played college football in the state of Arizona as an argument against him? Really??

Harry looked good on film clips too, but horrible when in the NFL. Not using an argument that they played in the same state; that they played on the same college team(I could be mistaken) against similar opponents though obviously at different times. No way I pick him at #4. I’d rather take a different wide receiver in the first round, and let another team have him. I respect your opinion if you think differently.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Hunter

They can't base anything on the expectation he's going to be there at #4. That's whay too uncertain. (And I want Carter anyway haha)

 

[Love The Drake]

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Because of how colossal a bust Harry was and the way it's perceived as the "final straw" for Brady in his battles with BB and our overall troubles before and after him drafting that position, people are just mentally scarred. It's PTSD. It's be a long time on this board before anyone here is ever able to make a rational evaluation of that profile of receiver lol

its asking a lot of Tet to make plays without gaining separation.
If he ran the 40 and under 4.5 fine but for my money I’d rather double dip than take the risk at him.

He may be Mike Evans but it’s terrifying if he’s just a big physical receiver with no separation.

Could be Harry, Johnny Wilson,JJ Whiteside

 

[ViperGTS]

They can't base anything on the expectation he's going to be there at #4. That's whay too uncertain. (And I want Carter anyway haha)

If Carters foot is okay, and they got him with the 4th, I doubt any QB that can have time to pass lol...

 

[EMpats]

Harry looked good on film clips too, but horrible when in the NFL. Not using an argument that they played in the same state; that they played on the same college team(I could be mistaken) against similar opponents though obviously at different times. No way I pick him at #4. I’d rather take a different wide receiver in the first round, and let another team have him. I respect your opinion if you think differently.

They didn’t play on the same college team (Arizona vs Arizona state), they also play the game differently (harry was a linear power athelete, Tet is a change of direction athlete).

I definitely understand the concern for another WR bust given this teams history and I wish he worked out at the combine too, I just don’t think it’s a fair comparison for McMillan. Drake London , Tee Higgins and Nick Collins are much more aligned with him.

The notion he doesn’t get separation isn’t true. He’s not an elite separator, but he’s much more fluid in his routes than Harry

 

[Huckleberry1]

Definitely fine with that logic. I don't want them to sign players just to sign players. I just love the team building part of the calendar so I'm itching for some more signings to analyze and talk about haha

Same here. I think their approach has been really smart. They haven’t got everything they wanted but you can’t get into bidding wars with every player you want. They understood how integral Milt Williams was to their plans so they won the bidding war, but overpaid in the process, I’m sure they wanted Will Fries but the Vikings had that same mindset and won the bidding war and over paid in the process. You also can’t get top free agents at every position of need, so if you are going to use your $$$ wisely you get a couple high priced guys, but then go mid range for good players to address other needs. I’m sure there will be more signings, but no big deals. And I’m hoping they still roll over a considerable amount of $$$ and cap space so they can have another free agency like this one next year. They obviously have their QB so 2 really good free agencies, and 2 really good drafts could go a long way towards building a long terms championship contender. The first step is largely compete, now they have to nail part 2, the Draft. And I think their front office is much stranger this year than it was last year, and I’m optimistic about that as well.

 

[Huckleberry1]

They didn’t play on the same college team (Arizona vs Arizona state), they also play the game differently (harry was a linear power athelete, Tet is a change of direction athlete).

I definitely understand the concern for another WR bust given this teams history and I wish he worked out at the combine too, I just don’t think it’s a fair comparison for McMillan. Drake London , Tee Higgins and Nick Collins are much more aligned with him.

The notion he doesn’t get separation isn’t true. He’s not an elite separator, but he’s much more fluid in his routes than Harry

If separation isn’t an issue why did he lead college football in contested catches? And why won’t he run the 40?

I want a big time receiver as much as anyone, but I think MacMillen is a huge risk. And I don’t want Maye having to throw to a covered receiver all the time, even if he is good at bringing them in. I would much rather have any of the other 1st round receivers.

 

[upstater1]

Hahaha. What I meant was he played at a time when guards were more crucial to the offense. Lots of power runs, Iso’s, and pulling. Less pass blocking.

Now Larry Allen was a freak who you could insert at any time in NFL history and he’s be the most dominant player on the field.

That said, I saw Allen play. Hannah was before my time so I’m just going on old film and what I know of that era. Maybe Hannah was more special than I’m aware.

I was 5 when Hannah retired.

I also might have a bias in believing the Pars sucked ass pre-Bledsoe/Brady because I became a fan in 1997 and could be attaching “good player on a garbage team” fallacy to Hannah’s career.

The Patriots were pretty decent. I would say good in this era. They had a lot of All-Pros. Several players made it to the Hall of Fame.

I was looking at Stanley Morgan's career recently and I realized that during his first 12 years with the Patriots, he only played on one losing team.

 

[Huckleberry1]

They can't base anything on the expectation he's going to be there at #4. That's whay too uncertain. (And I want Carter anyway haha)

I want Hunter, but I agree that you can’t go into it thinking you will get him. Rather you go in believing you won’t, and then take him if he’s there. Similar to the Gonzalez pick, you don’t believe he will be there, but take him when he is.

 

[maust]

If pats were seriously interested they would have handed over a 7th

As others have pointed out, Kupp's contract was the impediment to any trade. As with most of your overreactions, maybe you'd have less 'stress' over what the team does if you took a moment to think about all of the factors that go into the team's decision making. Nothing happens in a vacuum, team building is a complex process.