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S Jevon Holland
DL Milton WIlliams
CB Charvarious Ward
LB Jamien Sherwood
EDGE Azeez Ojulari
EDGE Harold Landry
DL Javon Hargrave

Haul of defensive players that would totally remake the unit.

LT Dan Moore Jr.
RT Morgan Moses
WR Joshua Palmer
WR Allen Lazard (once cut)
RB Aaron Jones

Stop gap signings on offense, give you a respectable talent level at OT and X receiver. Wouldn't expect it to be a good unit because of the lack of any top end talent, but with better coaching and competency at OT/X receiver I think you're in position to actually develop guys now.
 
S Jevon Holland
DL Milton WIlliams
CB Charvarious Ward
LB Jamien Sherwood
EDGE Azeez Ojulari
EDGE Harold Landry
DL Javon Hargrave

Haul of defensive players that would totally remake the unit.

LT Dan Moore Jr.
RT Morgan Moses
WR Joshua Palmer
WR Allen Lazard (once cut)
RB Aaron Jones

Stop gap signings on offense, give you a respectable talent level at OT and X receiver. Wouldn't expect it to be a good unit because of the lack of any top end talent, but with better coaching and competency at OT/X receiver I think you're in position to actually develop guys now.

I prefer the following:
Justin Reid > Jevon Holland
Brandon Stephens, Kristian Fulton Or Carlton Davis over Charvarius Ward
Matt Peart > Morgan Moses
Josh Sweat > Ojulari or Landry



Why would you want another Vederian Lowe on the team? That's what you get with Moore.

NO to Allen Lazard and Aaron Jones.

If you're looking at a RB, why not Nick Chubb or Khalil Hebert?
 

I wonder where he will go.
Every single player in the league saw what happened in the SB. Most have no love lost for the Chiefs who have been spoon fed Super Bowls. Now that jig might be up, so I bet you see less players going there. We shall see though.
 
Every single player in the league saw what happened in the SB. Most have no love lost for the Chiefs who have been spoon fed Super Bowls. Now that jig might be up, so I bet you see less players going there. We shall see though.
I think those players saw a team with a great QB who has a poor supporting cast, and they will feel they can improve things and win. Like it or not, KC is who we were 7 years ago, and if the money is equal they’ll choose KC over us the same way that with equal money, they would have chosen the Pats over Washington then. So we need to be prepared to overspend in FA just to get back to mediocre, then nail the draft to get cheap talent to win from there.
 
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Every single player in the league saw what happened in the SB. Most have no love lost for the Chiefs who have been spoon fed Super Bowls. Now that jig might be up, so I bet you see less players going there. We shall see though.
Yeah, not as attractive of a destination now... I also think it's a bit foolish to use most of their cap space to try to make a mega-deal for one tackle, while so many impact defensive players leave...
 
I prefer the following:
Justin Reid > Jevon Holland
Brandon Stephens, Kristian Fulton Or Carlton Davis over Charvarius Ward
Matt Peart > Morgan Moses
Josh Sweat > Ojulari or Landry



Why would you want another Vederian Lowe on the team? That's what you get with Moore.

NO to Allen Lazard and Aaron Jones.

If you're looking at a RB, why not Nick Chubb or Khalil Hebert?
Reid instead of Holland is fine with me. Holland is younger and more of a natural true FS so I like him better, but Reid can play FS well enough and isn't old by any means.

I'd be happy with any of the CBs you mentioned over Ward. I read his name as a reported target so went with him. Really just want a starting caliber CB outside Gonzo as it seems to be a good class of FAs there.

Peart is a projection as a starter. I like Moses because he's got track record of starting level RT play, which we desperately need. Not against gambling on a swing tackle with starter upside, but I'd prefer to use our cap space to get guys with track record on the starter tier at least as a stop gap.

Sweat is of course better than Ojulari or Landry. I already had us landing Williams at DT, Holland at S and Ward at CB which are top of their position lists on many sites. Adding the top DE too seemed a little rich, also reports saying specifically we aren't going to pursue him. But you have us saving money with your substitutions in Reid for Holland, one of those CBs for Ward, Peart for Moses, and not signing Moore. If they save money then I'd look to upgrade one of those EDGE signings to Sweat for sure.

Moore is better than Lowe. He's not an ideal solution, but he's definitely improvement. He's starter level, Lowe isn't. LT is a hard position to "solve" but we need to stop the bleeding there.

We desperately need an X receiver and there aren't many with that physical profile. Lazard would be one of the few, hence why I'd pursue him if cut. It's just a veteran stop gap at a spot we need help at with limited options.

Aaron Jones is one of the best receiving threats at the RB position amongst guys are also 1st and 2nd down runners (meaning not pure "receiving back" types). Chubb isn't a receiving threat anymore and Herbert has almost no track record there. Since I wasn't landing top end offensive talent, my goal was adding a "dual threat" RB to give McDaniels more formation/scheme possibilities to create mismatches for us. Jones brings that, the guys you suggest don't.
 
The competition for top free agents will be brutal this year. Mucho dollars for relatively few elite free agents.
Pats at such a huge disadvantage because Kraft has failed to keep up and modernize the organization and facilities.
As many have noted pats are viewed as an undesirable team
Keep expectations realistic.
They will likely be overpaying for over the hill or unproven players.
Outside of Stanley (who could hopefully hold down the LT spot until we have his replacement ready), I wouldn't overpay for over the hill players. I don't mind overpaying, just not for players that are cooked.
 

I wonder where he will go.
Chiefs are 1.2 million above the cap
I know once they do a deal with Smith they will get some relief
But do they spend to the cap for one guy
 
Christian Kirk to Texans for 2026 7th rounder
I can see why he was had for so cheap. Kirk was expected to be cut, and the Jags traded him to their division rival because they're not worried about him. $16 million for a slot receiver who has been injury riddled each of the last two seasons and doesn't really move the needle. I'm good with passing on him. Prefer a boundary receiver like Metcalf/Adams or a power slot like Kupp (who has his own injury concerns but played more games last two seasons combined and was more productive).
 
Chiefs are 1.2 million above the cap
I know once they do a deal with Smith they will get some relief
But do they spend to the cap for one guy
Well, we know that the Patriots could greatly exceed whatever the Chiefs (or any other team for that matter) can offer Stanley (and the Patriots would absolutely do so for him). It's just a question of what Stanley wants to do.
 
A little tidbit I just discovered is that Ronnie Stanley’s agent is Kim Miale, who’s a RI native and PC alum. If she grew up a Pats fan, which is a good bet, she’ll at least give the Pats a fair shot.
 
Well, we know that the Patriots could greatly exceed whatever the Chiefs (or any other team for that matter) can offer Stanley (and the Patriots would absolutely do so for him). It's just a question of what Stanley wants to do.
Yes I understand that
Just making a point that the Chiefs are not in a strong position
 
A little tidbit I just discovered is that Ronnie Stanley’s agent is Kim Miale, who’s a RI native and PC alum. If she grew up a Pats fan, which is a good bet, she’ll at least give the Pats a fair shot.
I don’t see any Agent giving their opinion too greatly to come off biased and non trusted. I think this is a non factor.
 
Christian Kirk to Texans for a 7 th rounder.
Bargain basement price.
Have to believe Pats are trying for one exoensive big name WR
 
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