Offseason player acquisition thread

[Rob0729]

 

[Love The Drake]

But AJ recently talked great about the Eagles and Hurts, would he want to move?

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Not saying PFF grades are everything, but Ronnie Stanley was the 39th ranked OT by PFF last year. Dan Moore Jr. was 46th. Stanley is played all 17 games last year, but was 13, 11, 1 and 6 in the 4 previous years. Moore has played played all 17 games twice and 16/17 games twice in his 4 year career so far. Stanley is going to be 31 this upcoming season, Moore will be 27.

I think we should pursue both. Put Moore at RT that way if/when Stanley gets hurt you have a backup plan. But in the event we can only have 1, I truly and genuinely think we're better off going for Moore. Stanley is better when they're both on the field, but I don't trust him to be on the field as consistently and he's at an age where you'd think those injuries start getting tougher to bounce back from and for his performance to decline in general. I think Stanley is more likely to make pro bowls in the next 3 years because he has that kind of ability while Moore doesn't, but I trust Moore to be more available and consistent over the next 3 years.

IMO, whether you sign Moore or Stanley (or both), LT is still the biggest long term need on this team and a positon they need to be prioritizing above all else. Even though Stanley is better on the upside, I trust Moore as a stop gap solution over him because dependability and youth to stay at current level of play for multiple seasons just make for a better stop gap IMO.

 

[Rob0729]

Not sure if this is worth a new thread because I don't know if the Eagles told the Pats to pound sand or not.

 

[Wozzy]

Milton Williams, this is who we want...

 

[Wozzy]

Not sure if this is worth a new thread because I don't know if the Eagles told the Pats to pound sand or not.

Pretty sure the Eagles would tell the Pats to pound sand.

AJ was also vocal during the season about the passing game, but then they won the Super Bowl. Winning cures a lot of ills, especially after you get those playoff checks in the mail.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Allen Lazard given permission to seek a trade. Obviously not a high end solution, but he does have the physical profile to play the X receiver role, which we currently have no one you can say that about. Even the free agent options discussed (i.e. Godwin) don't project well at that spot. If he reaches free agency, Lazard seems like a solid option to pursue just to give you a playable option at that spot. Gives you a chance to play Boutte, Polk and Bourne (if he's back) more as Z receivers vs. forcing them into playing the X. For Boutte and Polk in particular, that's beneficial because it gives you a chance to develop them in roles they're best suited for to gauge more accurately exactly what they can be. Even Baker has some questions about if he's better as X or a Z, so the added depth to avoid forcing him into the X spot only helps you put him in a position to best assess his ability.

 

[Love The Drake]

Not sure if this is worth a new thread because I don't know if the Eagles told the Pats to pound sand or not.

Is this why the Eagles cut 2 vet dbs to be able to afford their free agents and keep the core together.

 

[Love The Drake]

Is this why the Eagles cut 2 vet dbs to be able to afford their free agents and keep the core together.

Would Patriots part with 4 for AJ and Eagles first?
I’d giftpack a first next year or are second this year.

 

[Ross12]

Not sure if this is worth a new thread because I don't know if the Eagles told the Pats to pound sand or not.

That is pretty interesting. Of course there's been no indication if Brown actually IS available...

 

[Love The Drake]

That is pretty interesting. Of course there's been no indication if Brown actually IS available...

Right, but it’s showing they know they need a true number 1. And add some teeth to the offensive weapons.

 

[Ross12]

Allen Lazard given permission to seek a trade. Obviously not a high end solution, but he does have the physical profile to play the X receiver role, which we currently have no one you can say that about. Even the free agent options discussed (i.e. Godwin) don't project well at that spot. If he reaches free agency, Lazard seems like a solid option to pursue just to give you a playable option at that spot. Gives you a chance to play Boutte, Polk and Bourne (if he's back) more as Z receivers vs. forcing them into playing the X. For Boutte and Polk in particular, that's beneficial because it gives you a chance to develop them in roles they're best suited for to gauge more accurately exactly what they can be. Even Baker has some questions about if he's better as X or a Z, so the added depth to avoid forcing him into the X spot only helps you put him in a position to best assess his ability.

Lazard is a fine backup plan IMO. He looked fairly solid last year. Not a top end guy but better than a JAG and like you said, an actual X. You could do worse than something like Lazard + Godwin + Pop.

 

[Ross12]

Right, but it’s showing they know they need a true number 1. And add some teeth to the offensive weapons.

I think Vrabel and Wolf both know it and they are chasing every possible angle, which is very encouraging.

 

[Rob0729]

Here is more on Matthew Berry's thing on AJ Brown. He doesn't seem all that confident in the source of his information.

 

[Rob0729]

Make a trade offer for Christian McCaffery?

 

[Rob0729]

 

[PatsFan2]

They can still work out a deal before FA: I hope Ronnie Stanley is Greedy because he could get a better last payday from us. Think about the Tariffs Ronnie a man gotta feed his family.

 

[DaBruinz]

Not saying PFF grades are everything, but Ronnie Stanley was the 39th ranked OT by PFF last year. Dan Moore Jr. was 46th. Stanley is played all 17 games last year, but was 13, 11, 1 and 6 in the 4 previous years. Moore has played played all 17 games twice and 16/17 games twice in his 4 year career so far. Stanley is going to be 31 this upcoming season, Moore will be 27.

I think we should pursue both. Put Moore at RT that way if/when Stanley gets hurt you have a backup plan. But in the event we can only have 1, I truly and genuinely think we're better off going for Moore. Stanley is better when they're both on the field, but I don't trust him to be on the field as consistently and he's at an age where you'd think those injuries start getting tougher to bounce back from and for his performance to decline in general. I think Stanley is more likely to make pro bowls in the next 3 years because he has that kind of ability while Moore doesn't, but I trust Moore to be more available and consistent over the next 3 years.

IMO, whether you sign Moore or Stanley (or both), LT is still the biggest long term need on this team and a positon they need to be prioritizing above all else. Even though Stanley is better on the upside, I trust Moore as a stop gap solution over him because dependability and youth to stay at current level of play for multiple seasons just make for a better stop gap IMO.

What makes you think that Moore can play RT? He's taken all of 5 game snaps at the position in 4 years.

Looking at the "Total Offense" Grade is meaningless, honestly. Because their grades are so subjective.

Stanley gave up 2 sacks, 3 hits and 34 hurries including 5 hurries in 2 play-off games.. So, 2,3,29 during the regular season.

Compared to the 12 sacks, 3 hits, and 26 hurries by Dan Moore. Moore didn't allow a sack, hit, or hurry in the play-off game.


I think we both can agree that giving up 8 more hurries is better than giving up 10 more sacks.

Stanley, at this point in his career, is a better pass blocker than run blocker. He's a stopgap signing at best.

Moore is only a slight upgrade over Lowe. Moore gave up more sacks, but fewer "HITS" and takes fewer Penalties.

Maybe Marrone things he can improve on more and not on Lowe. I don't know. I know people love Maye, but not adding a true LT last year has hurt the Pats and it could be that the Pats won't be able to truly address it until 2026.

 

[DaBruinz]

Allen Lazard given permission to seek a trade. Obviously not a high end solution, but he does have the physical profile to play the X receiver role, which we currently have no one you can say that about. Even the free agent options discussed (i.e. Godwin) don't project well at that spot. If he reaches free agency, Lazard seems like a solid option to pursue just to give you a playable option at that spot. Gives you a chance to play Boutte, Polk and Bourne (if he's back) more as Z receivers vs. forcing them into playing the X. For Boutte and Polk in particular, that's beneficial because it gives you a chance to develop them in roles they're best suited for to gauge more accurately exactly what they can be. Even Baker has some questions about if he's better as X or a Z, so the added depth to avoid forcing him into the X spot only helps you put him in a position to best assess his ability.

Rather add Kupp or Dyami Brown..

 

[PatsFan2]

What makes you think that Moore can play RT? He's taken all of 5 game snaps at the position in 4 years.

Looking at the "Total Offense" Grade is meaningless, honestly. Because their grades are so subjective.

Stanley gave up 2 sacks, 3 hits and 34 hurries including 5 hurries in 2 play-off games.. So, 2,3,29 during the regular season.

Compared to the 12 sacks, 3 hits, and 26 hurries by Dan Moore. Moore didn't allow a sack, hit, or hurry in the play-off game.


I think we both can agree that giving up 8 more hurries is better than giving up 10 more sacks.

Stanley, at this point in his career, is a better pass blocker than run blocker. He's a stopgap signing at best.

Moore is only a slight upgrade over Lowe. Moore gave up more sacks, but fewer "HITS" and takes fewer Penalties.

Maybe Marrone things he can improve on more and not on Lowe. I don't know. I know people love Maye, but not adding a true LT last year has hurt the Pats and it could be that the Pats won't be able to truly address it until 2026.

You don't like R Stanley DB??