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I agree in principle, but if we are going to sign playmakers, not players, in FA we have to out bid 31 other teams. No team can maintain "financial discipline" AND outbid 31 other teams. FA is setup to give the player the financial leverage, which means teams have to forego fiscal conservatism to sign top of the market FAs. Otherwise we are signing middle of the road guys.
Yes I'm a chump that opens them up thinking I am going to receive some startling news regarding FA or the draft. Only to find out its just a load of eye wash re-hashing the same news that was old a week ago, let alone now.
True. But BB knew what he was getting in signing gilly to the contract when butler turned down his extension to stay here.. gilly made the play to send us to the superbowl.
I'm told he slowed down tyreek hill.. why didn't he slow down Jefferson or diggs??.. the only thing slowed down is him.. .. nickel CB/Safety is where he's relegated too as this point.
Agreed there. Once we get back to winning then we can go back to dictating things with contracts with players.
I think there’s a difference between competing with other teams for players in the marketplace and overpaying by going hog wild spending more than a player is worth, based on the value of their contribution. More discussion below, but consider this: every player should be a playmaker, in the plays they make at their position. They can’t all be paid top dollar. You can’t outbid every team for every free agent. You have to be selective. Realistically there are five potential playmakers on the field for the offense on every play, once you have your QB. You need that group to be solid, with ideally two or three standouts. Defense is similar, headcount may be different but idea is the same. You need to compete with other teams to sign enough good players to fill your dance card. To me, overpaying is spending much more on any one player than their productivity relative to their peers justifies. An example would be a player that once was truly stellar but has started to decline, past few years has not been getting the same burst and separation, has more injuries taking longer to heal, so production is down, and paying them top of today’s market when it’s unlikely they’ll deliver. In a word, Juju. Or Sanu. Is it really good to outbid other teams for them?
I don’t think it’s necessary to be dictating things with contracts to players in order to maintain financial discipline. Historically back in the dynasty days Bill had a value set for each position to allocate cap. That’s simply what’s called “budgeting” and sticking to it meant he wasn’t overpaying. Where it broke down was when he and Krafty Bob got too tight at the same time that player evaluation went off the rails. It wasn’t about dictating terms to players; it was about saying “this is how much money we have to spend” and holding the line even if it wasn’t a good player that they liked a lot.
Oh for sure. Your correct there. However the salaries have grown considerably since those days. Bill had an operating budget and was masterful at it.. but that was when we were in championship games every year basically and winning.
Those were mistakes. Supporting your discussion with outliers does not help you.
That is how we ended up with Juju, by "holding the line" with Meyers. Was it good to be outbid for Ty Law or R Seymour? Remember Akiem Hicks who we let go to the Bears for a small amount? Huge mistakes. Not outliers, but huge mistakes because of "holding the line". Count me out on the "holding the line" stuff.
Juju sanu!... nice ring too it!
Agreed! You touched on alot of key points.. hicks was big gaffe by BB letting him go for pennies on the dollar guys was pivotal that superbowl year.. and we missed his interior presence next to vince..
I think Alan Branch and Akiem Hicks were a great pair and I think our interior was never that good again.
Yes! Branch was an excellent DL.. when did vince leave 2015 or 16??
I might be fuzzy on details, but I believe BB actually made a push to keep Hicks. The issue wasn't money, it was that Hicks wanted to play more and didn't like the Pat' strategy of rotating DL so heavily besides Vince and wanted to go somewhere he could be the everydown guy.
Okay thanks for the clarity on this. Am I thinking of the same Hicks who went to Chicago?? Becuase didn't we trade for him in the 2014 season?? I think you may be referring to ayers??
That was 2024.
Your right we traded for him from Chicago! In 2015.
Come on man. He was the damn DPOY in 2019. Give him a little credit. He's right there with Law and Haynes as all-timers at the position here.
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