NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Super Bowl LIX Game Day Thread: KC ChiRefs vs Philadelphia Eagles

[lancerman]

Yup.. just like the Pats in 01, Giants in 07 etc.. sometimes you have to punch the bully right in the mouth

I hate to say it, but the Ravens when they gave us issues were the same way. They didn't psyche themselves out or have some special gameplan. They just said "this is what we do and we are going to just play our asses off trying toe execute it". Too many teams buy into the hype and go away from who they are and then when they face even a little adversity start seeing ghosts.

Championship caliber teams know who they are and play their game and make you deal with it

 

[lancerman]

Anyone thought the halftime show was the worst they’ve ever seen?

Gen Z’s preferred rapper Kendrick Lamar is the most overrated rapper of all time. This guy would be a complete afterthought in the golden era of rap in the 90’s.

I like rap well enough, I don't think it translates well in stadiums for a big event. Something like the Super Bowl you just want pop or rock anthems that rely less on hard hitting beats and more on fan friendly riffs and acoustics.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Well he kinda did always deny Brady being better... So eh.

And no, it is just the truth: Kendrick is really goddamn good. TBH he isn't my cup of tea, but he is undeniably very talented. His album To Pimp a Butterfly is insane. All of his albums are critically acclaimed. The guy is legit.

I've heard enough of him and don't get the hype. I must be in the minority. I'm a fan of the guys I grew up listening to when rap was emerged to its peak in the 90's even though it was blocked from award shows back then.

My style are 2Pac, Nas, LL Cool J, NWA, Cypress Hill, Ice Cube, 90's Snoop and Dr. Dre, Beastie Boys, Run DMC, Wu Tang Clan, Outkast, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Royce Da 5'9", Eminem, Jay Z to name a few.

Drake and Kanye started the sing talking-sound cloud rapper style we have today.

 

[n1997y]

Well said. Yep it's all about the trenches and Line of scrimmage for me. We are going to get game changers in my opinion by way of trade at WR. I'm all in all Deebo or kupp.. I'll take em both if possible. So many options exist.. also could strike a trade for Olave too.

Agreed, but only about the trenches not about Olave. I’m insisting about being over cautious about head injuries. Multiple concussions is an automatic disqualification for me:

Source:
https://atozsports.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints-news/chris-olave-new-orleans-saints-news-concussion-injury/#:~:text=He suffered another concussion and,in the past three years.

He suffered another concussion and was forced to miss a lot of time. Since he's suffered multiple concussions between his time in college and the pros, it has become a bit of a long-term concern, simply due to his overall health. Specifically, Olave has suffered four concussions in the past three years.

That’s CTE territory. And each time the next one takes less to cause so it’s an availability issue already, even if you don’t care about ruining him for the rest of his life.

 

[festy1986]

I disagree as I think the NBA is the easiest to turn around, if ( and a big if) you get a star. The Celtics w Bird ( pre Parish and McHale) went from 29 wins to 60 and other teams made the jump. It is easier when there are only 5 guys to play rather than 9 or 11....

So your example is from almost 50 years ago and when the league had under 20 teams?

Yes. I think you can turn your team around in the NBA in a single season if you add 3 Hall of famers in a single off-season

 

[Sect140]

I mean, I'd agree with that, and that's where a ''''legendary'''' playcaller should be able to prepare the team and scheme around it.
Or when your defense is on the field the entire first quarter (I think it was like 12 minutes to 3), run the ball just to give your guys a rest, you can't get it all back at once.

No max protections, no playaction (because you didn't run the ball), no adjustments whatsoever. They did the exact same thing from the start of the game to the end.

I kept waiting for the Chiefs throw some screen passes.

 

[Vindicate]

I've heard enough of him and don't get the hype. I must be in the minority. I'm a fan of the guys I grew up listening to when rap was emerged to its peak in the 90's even though it was blocked from award shows back then.

My style are 2Pac, Nas, LL Cool J, NWA, Cypress Hill, Ice Cube, 90's Snoop and Dr. Dre, Beastie Boys, Run DMC, Wu Tang Clan, Outkast, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Royce Da 5'9", Eminem, Jay Z to name a few.

Drake and Kanye started the sing talking-sound cloud rapper style we have today.

Yeah, he is of a new generation of sound - I get not being into his sound, I'm kinda the same. He does have some amazing tracks I like, but I'm not combing througj his catalogue.

And actually, for a rap history standpoint, you have two artists to blame for SoundCloud rappers: Soulja Boy and Lil B. But that's a whole other discussion lol.

Out of new generation stuff, you'd like Griselda (trio from Buffalo, you'd probably like Benny The Butcher the most out of the 3. You'll probably find Westside Gun annoying), Boldy James (he's one of my favorites, his album Fair Exchange is really good) and my personal favorite, Freddie Gibbs. Given your 90's era preference, I'd suggest his album Alfredo.

 

[signbabybrady]

Agreed, but only about the trenches not about Olave. I’m insisting about being over cautious about head injuries. Multiple concussions is an automatic disqualification for me:

Source:
https://atozsports.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints-news/chris-olave-new-orleans-saints-news-concussion-injury/#:~:text=He suffered another concussion and,in the past three years.


That’s CTE territory. And each time the next one takes less to cause so it’s an availability issue already, even if you don’t care about ruining him for the rest of his life.

Is that a fact or are just speculating?

I've never heard anyone put a number on concussions that puts you in "CTE territory"

 

[Real fan 02]

Agreed, but only about the trenches not about Olave. I’m insisting about being over cautious about head injuries. Multiple concussions is an automatic disqualification for me:

Source:
https://atozsports.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints-news/chris-olave-new-orleans-saints-news-concussion-injury/#:~:text=He suffered another concussion and,in the past three years.


That’s CTE territory. And each time the next one takes less to cause so it’s an availability issue already, even if you don’t care about ruining him for the rest of his life.

I get it about the CTE as he's had a few. However Tua is still playing and he's not at the level of what Tua has been through.. I guess it will all have to depend on how Chris views his career.

Is that a fact or are just speculating?

I've never heard anyone put a number on concussions that puts you in "CTE territory"

Right same here.. if such exists I wonder what number is Tua???

 

[Pape]

Yup.. just like the Pats in 01, Giants in 07 etc.. sometimes you have to punch the bully right in the mouth

the 2007 Patriots were not bullies... we were benevolent dictators

 

[Pape]

Mahome blows off teammate over a drop

Total disrespect. Not the actions of a team leader. Didn't take ownership of his own subpar play.

perine is a 30 yr old running back, who's a free agent... think his days in KC are done

 

[Steve102]

I hate to say it, but the Ravens when they gave us issues were the same way. They didn't psyche themselves out or have some special gameplan. They just said "this is what we do and we are going to just play our asses off trying toe execute it". Too many teams buy into the hype and go away from who they are and then when they face even a little adversity start seeing ghosts.

Championship caliber teams know who they are and play their game and make you deal with it

The Ravens have always been like that. Say what you will about Harbaugh, but his teams are prepared and believe they can beat you.

 

[Guts]

The Ravens have always been like that. Say what you will about Harbaugh, but his teams are prepared and believe they can beat you.

Except against the Chiefs apparently

 

[n1997y]

Is that a fact or are just speculating?

I've never heard anyone put a number on concussions that puts you in "CTE territory"

My opinion. As NIH explains “The epidemiology of CTE is not yet clear due to the inability to diagnose it during life.” (Source is first linked below). Definitely seems that concern for the effects on the rest of a players life should increase with eavry additional concussion. Again, that’s my opinion, admittedly conservative because I think the stakes demand a conservative approach.

NIH survey paper states that subconcussive impacts may also contribute: “The association of concussions with CTE has not been rigorously studied. While it is clear that a single concussion is not sufficient to lead to CTE, the precise threshold, if present, is unknown and likely varies depending on the severity of the injury and between individuals. […] Repetitive subconcussive injury can lead to the development of CTE. Despite a history of contact sports play and head impacts, symptoms associated with concussion are not always endorsed in subjects with CTE.“. The lack of rigorous studies is certainly noteworthy; there is also an unmentioned pattern of underreporting concussions among contact sports participants.
Concussion in Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy - PMC

Anyway, it seems reasonable to consider concussion history as a useful proxy for subconcussive impact rates as well. There are studies linking concussion history with increased likelihood of future concussions. That’s not speculative.
Self-reported Concussion History and Sensorimotor Tests Predict Head/Neck Injuries - PubMed

 

[n1997y]

I get it about the CTE as he's had a few. However Tua is still playing and he's not at the level of what Tua has been through.. I guess it will all have to depend on how Chris views his career.

Right same here.. if such exists I wonder what number is Tua???

I think Tua is being self destructive at this point. I also fault those around him for not effectively intervening to save him from himself. I say that with full knowledge I’d probably be doing much the same as he is.

 

[ViperGTS]

I wish more teams in the AFC would have the same attitude as Philly. They have a badass roster but at the same time they were on a mission. They lined up, punched Mahomes in the mouth and kicked him while he was down on the mat. They clearly weren’t afraid of KC’s mystique/presence.

They do. They just never got to play the Chiefs on a level playing field. Put the Bills, or the Lions (if healthy) or even the Ravens up against a road version of the Chiefs that gets called the way it was last night.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think Tua is being self destructive at this point. I also fault those around him for not effectively intervening to save him from himself. I say that with full knowledge I’d probably be doing much the same as he is.

I get it. CTE is real look at Antonio brown.. saw an interview he did post game before the burfict hit he was a totally different person. Well spoken ect.. now he can barely complete a sentence. But on Olave he's a young guy only 2 years in.. it will depend on what he chooses.

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

NFL posts a highlight video on youtube with Kermit padding his stats in a blowout and it's getting destroyed in the comments lmao

I have the dislike counter browser extension and right now there's about a 6:1 ratio of dislikes to likes

The worst part is. That video was literally the first upload of any type about the game, of the NFL’s YouTube channel .

 

[TommyD4207]

The worst part is. That video was literally the first upload of any type about the game, of the NFL’s YouTube channel .

And it starts with him down 34-0.

 

[n1997y]

I get it. CTE is real look at Antonio brown.. saw an interview he did post game before the burfict hit he was a totally different person. Well spoken ect.. now he can barely complete a sentence. But on Olave he's a young guy only 2 years in.. it will depend on what he chooses.

What’s worrisome is history of repeated concussions. Olave being a young guy just makes the concern greater. As I understand them studies show each concussion lowers the threshold for future hits to cause the next concussions. So he’s already on a downhill run.