How confident are you on our own Roster?

[JayNM]

Pretty straightforward question here, as we edge the offseason for real (is there a game this weekend? I dont know). This focus more inward than for the FA market/draft

How you would rate our roster, maybe divided by positions/groupings? Are you satisfied with any position group in particular (meaning, are they good to go for 2026 as they are?)

Could be fun meter to assess our team and talk a bit about players without much weight. I will post my breakdown in a future post too if anyone's interested

 

[JayNM]

Also I wonder how much this coaching staff trust the perception of our players that is left behind.

Like, will they allow our current leaders to remain? Will they be satisfied for the standard set by some lackluster years of BB and the Mayo disaster? This is my main doubts while creating this thread. I think this forum still overvalues our players a bit, tbh. I think, even if some had fluke years, the fluke is one the most common fish in the occean

 

[Huckleberry1]

Pretty straightforward question here, as we edge the offseason for real (is there a game this weekend? I dont know). This focus more inward than for the FA market/draft

How you would rate our roster, maybe divided by positions/groupings? Are you satisfied with any position group in particular (meaning, are they good to go for 2026 as they are?)

Could be fun meter to assess our team and talk a bit about players without much weight. I will post my breakdown in a future post too if anyone's interested

They need help everywhere, but they don’t need to replace the entire roster. They need to add a couple players on every unit, but they need to be quality starters who push current starters to the bench. E.g…add 2 quality starting tackles. This pushes Onwenu back to guard, and move Strange to Center. That should fix the OL. Same goes for the DL. They need 1 quality starting DT, and 1quality starting End/Edge. Then if Barmore does return it’s a bonus. If they can do this on most units they should be dramatically better next season.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

There's barely anyone I would consider a lock.

Maye. Gonzalez. Baringer. Absolute locks.

Douglas, Boutte, Henry. About all I would consider near absolutes on offense.

Barmore, White, Elliss. About it on defense.

Everyone else falls into either replaceable or nearing end of career.

 

[lancerman]

We have one of the most shallow rosters in the league without hyperbole. There's maybe 3 or 4 guys that I would say can be considered reliable contributors, beyond that, our team has really no position group where it can endure any injury and not get totally torpedoed. The top teams can lose a lineman to injury take a step back but not be in a total tailspin where they can't adjust. Hell at WR I'd argue it doesn't even matter if someone gets hurt because there isn't much talent to speak of to begin with.

Even some of the best guys on the team are spotty at points. Maye is young so it could change, but despite all his heroics, he's thrown some game ending bonehead interceptions. Gonzalez is a stud, but he also has games where he inexplicably gets burned by guys who we sort of expect him to lock down (then he'll rebound and shut down some stud WR next week). Henry is probably the most consistent offensive player we have, but he's 30. Gronk retired at 32 and was not the same guy at the end. Kelce started falling off last year when he was 34. So as much as I love Henry here, he's can't be viewed as a long term guy.

If you took the entire team, and replaced everyone, even the best players with all guys who were purely at league average, we would be dramatically better right now. Like yeah we'd lose a few above average players, but so many other positions would be an improvement that it wouldn't be close. And that's just to be average.

They have a lot of work. The good thing is, in the NFL a few of the right players can change team trajectory and then you can use that to build the depth. But they really probably need 2 maybe 3 really solid drafts and free agency periods to correct what is going on

 

[Triumph]

QB - Yes, Maye was the right choice. Backup Id like to keep Milton, but add QB3 for now.
RB - No, Im not satisficed. Stevenson fumbled 7 times in 2024. Gibson is OK. Upgrade here.
WR - No, Douglas and Bourne are serviceable. Polk, Boutte, Baker are developmental players. 2 new starters are needed - 1 FA and 1 Draft.
TE - Hold, Henry and Hooper are alright. Mickey D may want a TE driven offense, so TE could be a priority.
OL - No, I read that Dante Scar is coming out of retirement to assist Vrabs and Mickey D on a periodical basis. Sounds more like an advisory role coaching and what they need to look for drafting and FA.
K - Good
P - Good

5 - 8 players could be added on offense.

 

[signbabybrady]

I don't think there is a single position I would rate as all set.

RB and QB are the closest spots but we could still use some depth there.

I suppose with a few re-signings the DB group could be set too but I think I'd prefer to make some tough decisions there and go with a free agent or draft pick at FS and one of the starting corners. What we do at corner or FS likely impacts the other. For instance getting a really good corner to play opposite Gonzo could provide coverage skills that allow us to keep playing 2 SS safeties which might not be ideal but give some toughness and potentially helps stop the run even out of nickel. Or vice versa filling FS with a true coverage FS might allow us to fill that 3rd CB role with a cheaper option.

TE is close but not unless we bring Hooper back.

 

[signbabybrady]

QB - Yes, Maye was the right choice. Backup Id like to keep Milton, but add QB3 for now.
RB - No, Im not satisficed. Stevenson fumbled 7 times in 2024. Gibson is OK. Upgrade here.
WR - No, Douglas and Bourne are serviceable. Polk, Boutte, Baker are developmental players. 2 new starters are needed - 1 FA and 1 Draft.
TE - Hold, Henry and Hooper are alright. Mickey D may want a TE driven offense, so TE could be a priority.
OL - No, I read that Dante Scar is coming out of retirement to assist Vrabs and Mickey D on a periodical basis. Sounds more like an advisory role coaching and what they need to look for drafting and FA.
K - Good
P - Good

5 - 8 players could be added on offense.

Slye sucks I see no reason we can't do better than that.

 

[RobertWeathers]

There's barely anyone I would consider a lock.

Maye. Gonzalez. Baringer. Absolute locks.

Douglas, Boutte, Henry. About all I would consider near absolutes on offense.

Barmore, White, Elliss. About it on defense.

Everyone else falls into either replaceable or nearing end of career.

Agree but the amount of playing time everyone after Maye, Gonzo and Bar should be scrutinized.

Dugger needs to be coached and used properly in the scheme.

 

[jboston19]

There’s a few cornerstone pieces, one of which (Barmore) is now questionable due to health.

Otherwise, the only way I look at this roster with approval is the same manner in which I’d look at a well positioned pile of logs in a fire place. It can be burned down.

 

[signbabybrady]

There’s a few cornerstone pieces, one of which (Barmore) is now questionable due to health.

Otherwise, the only way I look at this roster with approval is the same manner in which I’d look at a well positioned pile of logs in a fire place. It can be burned down.

Barmore is extremely questionable to us. But the team must have a much better idea of where he's at.

If he went back on blood thinners then its a priority to fill his shoes. If he didn't then we probably can take the risk of relying on him.

 

[archstanton543]

Short answer: not very.

 

[Toofy]

I think we might do better by signing solid depth pieces as opposed to few playmakers as they can just target the weak links.

Linebackers, cornerback 2 and safeties usually are undervalued in free agency . So get one of the top 3 free agents in those 3 categories without breaking bank.

OT is luck of draw and heavily relies on you developing them. Very rarely do stud linemen become available. I feel we should probably slightly overpay for Alaric Jackson and get him here.

Robinson, strange and onwenu for interior line should be solidified. Wallace, sow and Andrews should be backups. Get another high drafted rookie ( 2nd or 3rd round ) / average vet to compete with Wallace for RT. This will be a weak link and will hinge on Wallace's growth.

If Carter falls to us, it's jackpot else draft Graham.

It's tee Higgins or Godwin in free agency. If that doesn't happen just draft a sleeper wr and hope Polk or Baker pan out.

This season is anyways another rebuild season . So don't overpay for average talent like what we did with juju or godchaux.

The draft and free agency should look heavily into potential and growth of players as opposed to high floor low ceiling players .

 

[signbabybrady]

Short answer: not very.

Yeah I mean that's probably the short answer but I think there are several spots that hopefully will pleasantly surprise us.

Could we be lucky enough to get both Strange and Andrews playing well next year.

Could we be lucky enough to have Barmore get past his issues.

Could we be lucky enough to get Bentley back.

Dugger struggled without Peppers and Peppers obviously had his own issues. If Peppers can put his issues behind him maybe that helps 2 spots (yes I know they are redundant and we still could use a tru FS).

Are guys like Godchaux,Wise, and Jonathan Jones completely toast or can we squeeze a little more out of them with better coaching and if some of the above works out.

Lots of questions and confidence varies on who can still contribute but some of them will bounce back.

At a minimum I do have confidence we will get better play from Onwenwu and Stevenson.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

As locks, we've got a QB, CB, TE and P. I'd include Barmore on the list, but I'm not sure if he will play another down in the NFL. If he's smart, he won't. I'd also include Peppers, but a suspension is probably coming, so he's up in the air too.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Maye and Gonzo are the only actual core pieces. Barmore too if he’s healthy.

White, Pop Douglas, Boutte are all rookie contract guys who can clearly play but aren’t good enough to actually be core pieces. Strange is in this group too if he returns to health and form.

Henry, Peppers. Bentley, Onwenu, Dugger, Godchaux, DAndrews (if healthy and back to form), Bourne (if healthy and back to form), Stevenson, Gibson are all fine second and third contract player to fill out the depth chart.

Polk, Baker, Wallace, Robinson, Sow, JAndrews Mapu are, right now, all failed prospects not worth playing time but probably not guys to give up on yet.

They need to start drafting guys from the first group (core pieces). They need to coach some of the failed prospects up to that second tier group. And they need to spend in free agency to litter the roster with the solid vets tier.

 

[signbabybrady]

As locks, we've got a QB, CB, TE and P. I'd include Barmore on the list, but I'm not sure if he will play another down in the NFL. If he's smart, he won't. I'd also include Peppers, but a suspension is probably coming, so he's up in the air too.

Doesn't time served already cover that?

 

[archstanton543]

Doesn't time served already cover that?

He already served the max amount of time on the Exempt List. And considering he was acquitted, a suspension is not, in fact, coming.

 

[Pape]

He already served the max amount of time on the Exempt List. And considering he was acquitted, a suspension is not, in fact, coming.

there is no "max time" a player can spend on the commissioners list... The length of stay on the list is at the commissioners discretion... so a suspension, could be, in fact, coming.

not saying it will happen. But it is still on the table.

What is the NFL commissioner's exempt list? Who is on it?

In October 2024, the Patriots' Jabrill Peppers and Jaguars' Tashaun Gipson landed on the NFL commissioner's exempt list. What does that entail?

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[Force Zero Boomer]

Doesn't time served already cover that?

That's a good question, but since he's a Patriot and Roger Gooddell is the commish, I'd say it's not looking good for us.