If patriots lose out, Travis Hunter could be theirs

[mgteich]

Imma need the first o-line in the first round. Drake needs help up there or he gonna die behind the current o-line. Get 2 pro bowl caliber o-linemen and this team will look much different.
I’m okay not picking up Hunter if we get a solid o-line.

I want the first two rounds to be all about o-line. Maybe even move up a spot and try to get another 1st round pick to add another o-line.

So, let's sign 2 top OT's in free agency and then draft an OT in the first and second. I'm sure that this strategy makes sense to someone.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I posted a Tweet that started this conversation a page back. I said if it is true.

That post suggests he will focus on playing Cornerback, nowhere does it say he won’t play WR. He loves playing both positions and who ever takes him is going to use him on both sides of the ball, the only question is how much.

The Patriots are not going to be a contender next season, so they shouldn’t be making moves out of desperation. OT is clearly a need and a priority, but not to the point where they should pass on the guy who could be the best player in this draft, especially when they can trade back into the first round and get a tackle on the same level they could get in the top 10. The OL has to be addressed both in free agency and the draft, but not at the expense of passing on a much better player.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Drafting a potential All Pro CB with the third pick in the draft when you already have an emerging All Pro CB and no talent anywhere else other than QB and maybe a few other positions is an absolute waste. Unless your strategy is to be a bottom five team for another 2-3 years and collect the best talent even if it isn’t a position of need.

The strategy is to build a championship team, and you do that by acquiring better players, not by constantly taking lesser players out of desperation. Everyone agree they need to address needs, but not at the expense of taking lesser players. And there is a significant advantage created when you have the best secondary in the league, especially against the best teams.

 

[Huckleberry1]

So, let's sign 2 top OT's in free agency and then draft an OT in the first and second. I'm sure that this strategy makes sense to someone.

I’m all for addressing the OL in both free agency and the draft. And if they end up picking 6th or 7th I’m fine with them taking Banks or Campbell, just not at 3. This is not a strong first round and teams are going to be looking to trade down, so take Hunter and then trade back into the first for the tackle. The drop off will be minimal, if at all.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

Projected Draft order
Here’s what picks 1-8 look like according to Tankathon after the 1 p.m. and 4 p.m. games in Week 16:

Giants — 2-13. (SOS .554) — lost to Falcons
Patriots — 3-12 (SOS .463) — lost to Bills
Jaguars — 3-12 (SOS .480) — to Raiders
Titans — 3-12 (SOS .512) — lost to Colts
Browns — 3-12 (SOS .530) — lost to Bengals
Raiders — 3-12 (SOS .545) — beat Jaguars
Panthers — 4-11 (SOS .500) — beat Cardinals
Jets — 4-11 (SOS .502) — lost to Rams

It's time to keep the losing streak up!

Mayo needs consistency!

 

[PatsFan2]

That post suggests he will focus on playing Cornerback, nowhere does it say he won’t play WR. He loves playing both positions and who ever takes him is going to use him on both sides of the ball, the only question is how much.

The Patriots are not going to be a contender next season, so they shouldn’t be making moves out of desperation. OT is clearly a need and a priority, but not to the point where they should pass on the guy who could be the best player in this draft, especially when they can trade back into the first round and get a tackle on the same level they could get in the top 10. The OL has to be addressed both in free agency and the draft, but not at the expense of passing on a much better player.

I still want him we are pretty weak on both sides of the Football.

 

[Kdo5]

I’m not getting stupid. If Hunter is there you take him. Best player on the draft, potential to be one of the best players in the league. Don’t get stupid.

Big if though. The Pats aren’t the worst team in the league, just the most un-clutch and mistake prone. That means if a few things break their way they have the potential to upset LAC and beat a resting Bills team in the last week. That would mean no Travis Hunter.

 

[patman12]

Yeah, really need the Steelers to beat KC next week to even have a chance at making the final game vs Buffalo meaningful

 

[VJCPatriot]

That post suggests he will focus on playing Cornerback, nowhere does it say he won’t play WR. He loves playing both positions and who ever takes him is going to use him on both sides of the ball, the only question is how much.

The Patriots are not going to be a contender next season, so they shouldn’t be making moves out of desperation. OT is clearly a need and a priority, but not to the point where they should pass on the guy who could be the best player in this draft, especially when they can trade back into the first round and get a tackle on the same level they could get in the top 10. The OL has to be addressed both in free agency and the draft, but not at the expense of passing on a much better player.

This is the draft for trading up to bottom of 1st for that OL. None of the OT in this year's draft have the blue chip rep of a top 10 player. If we can move up into bottom of the 1st and get a Matt Light caliber player I'd be ecstatic.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

Imma need the first o-line in the first round. Drake needs help up there or he gonna die behind the current o-line. Get 2 pro bowl caliber o-linemen and this team will look much different.
I’m okay not picking up Hunter if we get a solid o-line.

I want the first two rounds to be all about o-line. Maybe even move up a spot and try to get another 1st round pick to add another o-line.

lol and whose maye going to throw the ball to? Sodapop Douglas?

 

[Huckleberry1]

This is the draft for trading up to bottom of 1st for that OL. None of the OT in this year's draft have the blue chip rep of a top 10 player. If we can move up into bottom of the 1st and get a Matt Light caliber player I'd be ecstatic.

Agree. And they could do that in several ways.

1-Take Hunter and then trade back into the first for Ersery or Simmons.

2– They fall to #5-6, take Campbell or Banks, then trade back into the first for Luther Burden WR.

3 -They fall to #5-6, take Campbell or Banks, then double up at OT and take Ersery or Simmons.

4-They end up at #2, trade with the Raiders for their 2nd and a 2026 1st round pick. Take Campbell or Banks at #6, trade back up for Luther Burden,

 

[zimmy]

This team needs so much help. My early view is that if Hunter is there at 2, you trade down if there is a good offer. If you can get a future 1st+ from someone I think you take it. You’ll still be picking in the top 10 in all likelihood

 

[Hogo145]

I am a huge Hunter guy but I think there is definitely a debate on whether we should trade back and accumulate additional first round picks now. This is why I was rooting for the Jags to beat the Raiders yesterday. Now we are almost forced to trade back. Although I think there is a chance Mayo falls in love with Hunter.

If you are telling me we could get like #8, get two more FRP from a team like the raiders, and then select Jeanty? Im in.

 

[Toofy]

I think we should sit maye in last game and not go for the win . If decision has been made to retain Mayo, at least get the number 1 or 2 pick. Don't screw us in the end with a meaningless win when bills rest their starters.

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

If the Patriots have toe # 2 pick they’re going to be offered a kings ransom for a QB hungry team. And you have a handful of them not too far behind you.

If that’s the case you trade #2, you’ll probably come back with another high first but it will take you out of the Hunter discussion, and probably get another #1 and maybe a 3rd or 4th.

 

[Rob0729]

The strategy is to build a championship team, and you do that by acquiring better players, not by constantly taking lesser players out of desperation. Everyone agree they need to address needs, but not at the expense of taking lesser players. And there is a significant advantage created when you have the best secondary in the league, especially against the best teams.

To build a championship team, it is always a combinate of acquiring top talent AND draft for need. An All Pro CB is not a need for this team. A Pro Bowl LT would be a better draft pick than an All Pro CB. You don't need two All Pro CBs in the NFL.

So yes, if you can draft a tackle who can be a to 5-10 LT for the Pats over the next ten years rather and a CB who can be top 5 over the next ten years when you already have a CB who can be top 5 over the next ten years, you draft the tackle. Hopefully you can trade down to do it. Drafting an All Pro CB when you already have one isn't as special as you think.

You act like the draft goes to complete sh*t after Hunter.

And there is no advantage to having the best secondary in the league by adding an All Pro CB with the third pick to be your #2 CB if you sacrifice the pass rush or protecting your franchise QB to do it.

 

[Rob0729]

That post suggests he will focus on playing Cornerback, nowhere does it say he won’t play WR. He loves playing both positions and who ever takes him is going to use him on both sides of the ball, the only question is how much.

The Patriots are not going to be a contender next season, so they shouldn’t be making moves out of desperation. OT is clearly a need and a priority, but not to the point where they should pass on the guy who could be the best player in this draft, especially when they can trade back into the first round and get a tackle on the same level they could get in the top 10. The OL has to be addressed both in free agency and the draft, but not at the expense of passing on a much better player.

This post indicated he will be a full time CB and a part time WR. The Pats do not need a full time CB in the first round. It is waste to use the second or third pick on a CB unless they trade Gonzalez.

And trading away the pick isn't a desperation move. What world are you living in where the first round talent of the draft ends at the second or third pick.

This team has needs everywhere. The smart move would be to trade down and acquire more picks and fill more areas. That isn't desperation. It is the opposite of desperation. It is the smart move. The Pats have far too many needs to have two All Pro first round CBs drafted two years apart even if one can make an impact playing 15 or so plays at WR every game. The Pats will have the opportunity to get teams in love with Hunter's versatility to give up a lot to move up. That is the smart play. I would rather use the #2 or #3 pick to trade down and draft two or three players who can make an impact. We do not need an All Pro to cover the #2 or #3 WR on other teams.

 

[Rob0729]

If the Patriots have toe # 2 pick they’re going to be offered a kings ransom for a QB hungry team. And you have a handful of them not too far behind you.

If that’s the case you trade #2, you’ll probably come back with another high first but it will take you out of the Hunter discussion, and probably get another #1 and maybe a 3rd or 4th.

From the sound of it, Vegas is desperate to get Sanders. They will now have to trade up to get him. Cam Ward is likely to be the Giants' pick. So the Pats could get at least one more first rounder and more to trade down.

By the time the draft rolls around, Ward and Sanders will be considered the universal top two picks. If the Pats end up at #2, they will have already traded down by the time the draft comes along.

 

[Rob0729]

This is the draft for trading up to bottom of 1st for that OL. None of the OT in this year's draft have the blue chip rep of a top 10 player. If we can move up into bottom of the 1st and get a Matt Light caliber player I'd be ecstatic.

I don't think the Pats necessarily need to address LT with their top pick. In fact, I am for signing Cam Robinson (I think he will be the best LT not retained by his current team in free agency) and developing a guy under him long term. This team has so many needs, that they can address pass rush or WR at the top of the draft too.

 

[captain stone]

So, let's sign 2 top OT's in free agency and then draft an OT in the first and second. I'm sure that this strategy makes sense to someone.

It's not like this League-Worst OL can't use them...