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The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

It emerged Thursday afternoon, following Belichick's press conference, that the coach has a $10m buyout clause - but only until June 2025, according to Chris Vannini.

Following the first six months of his contract that figure will drop to $1m on June 1, 2025 before his first college football season has even begun.
Hmmm....perhaps I should slow down on the tar heels colors..
 
Wouldn't be the first team he was hired by to coach a team be never coached for.
 
The Krafts look and come across as slimy.
When the topic came up today on a show about how the Krafts may have put negative information out about Bill in the last coaching hiring period I was surprised when Adam Schefter said that’s what everyone thinks but he said he knew for a fact that the Krafts gave positive recommendations to the Falcons and Redskins.
 
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UNC 2025 Wins O/U prop is 6.5 wins. Looking at that schedule I think 6 wins is the max for UNC.
 
When the topic came up today on a show about how the Krafts may have put negative information out about Bill in the last coaching hiring period I was surprised when Adam Schefter said that’s what everyone thinks but he said he knew for a fact that the Krafts gave positive recommendations to the Falcons and Redskins.
People just really want the Kraft's to be the bad guy because they don't want to accept that Bill ****ed up the end of his tenure here and the rest of the NFL just doesn't really want a 70 something coach who wants roster control and has shown decline.
 
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I'm sorry got the feds put on you Ian
 
It's going to be fascinating to see how Bill manages this as it goes both ways.

For every player that is not happy with their situation/team, the program will also message (see how BOB handled Castellanos) to the player they don't want them anymore (level of play, roster decision as they are smaller now, etc).

Bill is the greatest "maximize the roster" GM a the NFL level who has ever lived. Remains to be seen if he can do it at the D-1 level but i'm not betting against him.
I think there are a lot of guys that love to play football, like the midwestern Iowa guys, that would love to be coached by Bill.
 
People just really want the Kraft's to be the bad guy because they don't want to accept that Bill ****ed up the end of his tenure here and the rest of the NFL just doesn't really want a 70 something coach who wants roster control and has shown decline.
This is not true. BB is an old guy that gave us 9 trips to the SB and 6 SB championships. What people just really want is for Pats ownership to not sh!t on BB on his way out which is what RK did. RK even went so far to make a documentary on the Pats to dump on BB. What people just really want is for the BB haters to allow the guy to be himself. BB is eccentric, a bit odd for sure, but a genius in his own right, so give him respect on his way out. BB has not changed. It was cute when he signed a napkin to quit from the Jets, but he was odd then and odd now. BB has not changed. BB was just as eccentric when he was helping the franchise win SBs, but noone was upset about him then. What people just really want is for BB to change and stop being odd even though they were fine with his oddity for 20 years. BB has not changed, the people have changed.
 
College football more than anything is about getting talent. It doesn't matter if your DBs are well coached and play proper technique when they run 4.6 40s and they're covering guys who run 4.3 and the QB has plenty of time because his OL are all 5 star recruits and your DL are all 3 star recruits. He's gotta be able to recruit or UNC boosters have to be able to shell out enough $$$ to get talent otherwise that program isn't gonna be able to compete against top tier programs.
You are out of date. Getting talent in college football has completely changed with the NIL money and NCAA rule changes (no sitting out a year). The portal is full of guys, it is really easy to recruit from the portal. It is not like it used to be. The UNC NIL fund quadrupled in two days. recruiting guys is not the problem.
 
This is not true. BB is an old guy that gave us 9 trips to the SB and 6 SB championships. What people just really want is for Pats ownership to not sh!t on BB on his way out which is what RK did. RK even went so far to make a documentary on the Pats to dump on BB. What people just really want is for the BB haters to allow the guy to be himself. BB is eccentric, a bit odd for sure, but a genius in his own right, so give him respect on his way out. BB has not changed. It was cute when he signed a napkin to quit from the Jets, but he was odd then and odd now. BB has not changed. BB was just as eccentric when he was helping the franchise win SBs, but noone was upset about him then. What people just really want is for BB to change and stop being odd even though they were fine with his oddity for 20 years. BB has not changed, the people have changed.
Very well said!
 
You are out of date. Getting talent in college football has completely changed with the NIL money and NCAA rule changes (no sitting out a year). The portal is full of guys, it is really easy to recruit from the portal. It is not like it used to be. The UNC NIL fund quadrupled in two days. recruiting guys is not the problem.

I literally included in my post about boosters needing to shell out $$$ if they want talent.
 
This is not true. BB is an old guy that gave us 9 trips to the SB and 6 SB championships. What people just really want is for Pats ownership to not sh!t on BB on his way out which is what RK did. RK even went so far to make a documentary on the Pats to dump on BB. What people just really want is for the BB haters to allow the guy to be himself. BB is eccentric, a bit odd for sure, but a genius in his own right, so give him respect on his way out. BB has not changed. It was cute when he signed a napkin to quit from the Jets, but he was odd then and odd now. BB has not changed. BB was just as eccentric when he was helping the franchise win SBs, but noone was upset about him then. What people just really want is for BB to change and stop being odd even though they were fine with his oddity for 20 years. BB has not changed, the people have changed.
Bill Belichick wasn't old when he took us to most of those Super Bowls. His last SB was 6 years ago when he was 66. He'll be 73 next season. All his Super Bowl appearances came between age 49 and 66. You know.... within pre retirement age for most of the country.

It's really not surprising that most of the NFL isn't looking at a coach who is approaching his mid 70's when no coach in that age range has ever won a title, typically you see coaches that old decline, Bill did have a downward trajectory towards the end, and teams in general want a guy to be the person who can build their franchise and lead it for a decade plus, not to squeek out however many years he might have left. Especially one who most people believe wants full control when literally no team in the league does that anymore. It's a difficult ask.

I agree with you that the documentary was in poor taste and makes Kraft look like a ****head who is desperate for recognition. But as far as the idea that Kraft bad mouthed Belichick to dissuade other owners, I just find that suspect as ****. Blank denied it and Schefter who is the most plugged in guy in the industry denied it. It's just another dumb rumor people who can't accept Bill's issues later in his career want to believe for why he's not getting looks. Same as how after years of Bill having total control of the franchise supposedly Kraft started meddling and supposedly Kraft is only responsible for all the bad decisions and Bill is only responsible for the good ones.

Here's the reality, Bill did things his way, people put up with it because he was winning. Nobody would ask him to change if he was winning like he used. But he hasn't for a long time. 6 years is forever in football. That's like half of most players careers, even a guy like Brady that was like 3rd of his tenure here. Bill's allowed to be himself, and the rest of the NFL is allowed to think that him being himself isn't going to help a franchise win in 2025 and beyond.

Like I said I wish Bill well and hope he succeeds at UNC, but he was largely the main culprit responsible for why he isn't here right now and why the league isn't as interested in him. There's really no evidence Kraft is waging some sort of blackballing campaign on him and if owners thought they could win with him, they wouldn't care what any other owner told them, just like Kraft ignored Art Modell when he was set on Belichick,

There's really no shame in a guy having a long career and the game passing him by. Every coach that didn't retire early had that happen. Even the legendary ones.
 
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I think there are a lot of guys that love to play football, like the midwestern Iowa guys, that would love to be coached by Bill.
Also BB basically knows everyone in the NFL.

A good word from an 8 time Super Bowl winner cant hurt a player.
 
I think there are a lot of guys that love to play football, like the midwestern Iowa guys, that would love to be coached by Bill.
That's why I say that some parents will drive their Sons right to BBs door.

Particularly talent on defense. You're in an NFL front office and looking for a CB this draft and here's a guy coached by BB who looks for real.
 
Time to get season tickets. Who’s in?
Anybody going to the Fenway Bowl vs UConn 12/28?

I imagine BB will be in attendance.
 
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