Jaguar Mac Jones is about to embarrass the genius BB and his all star coaching staff [mod edit: he didn’t]

[Wozzy]

Regarding Davis Mills maybe I shouldn’t laugh. Then Bill would’ve been fired sooner and the Patriots could’ve gotten a 2 year head start on finding a good head coach who doesn’t need the GOAT QB to win anything.

Brady went 8-9 after he had Bruce Arians fired, it's a team game.

Coaching is important also, we're learning that in 2024.

 

[sb1]

At worst better than Mac, would have made a good bridge QB the way he did for Stroud.

He was on a substantially worse team than Mac. He also wasn't climbing up the backstairs of Gillette to cry to the owner's son and a locker rom cancer.

.426 post Brady. Yikes. Never mind Jeff Fisher that’s more at Todd Bowles level. No wonder he was canned by Kraft. I wouldn’t want to be reminded either that I made the wrong decision between them.

 

[Wozzy]

.426 post Brady. Yikes. Never mind Jeff Fisher that’s more at Todd Bowles level.

Look at the records of the all-time great coaches who coached for decades.

There's always stretches where you don't have enough talent... not just at QB.

 

[sb1]

Look at the records of the all-time great coaches who coached for decades.

There's always stretches where you don't have enough talent... not just at QB.

In this case there is only one guy to blame for the team not having enough talent and you already know who that is.

#NotTheCollaboration

 

[sb1]

I love how people talk down Brady’s final season like he wasn’t 45 freaking years old and not already well beyond the reach of what was once thought impossible for QBs in this league.

Keep on tasting that copium there.

 

[ahmed]

Brady went 8-9 after he had Bruce Arians fired, it's a team game.

Coaching is important also, we're learning that in 2024.

He was 45 ****ing years old. Jesus you are hopeless.

 

[ahmed]

He already is embarrassed. He drafted him in the first round.

Mac was always his boy and he proved it. Nothing further to debate here.

Didn't you get the latest memo? Bill never wanted Mac. He never had anything to do with drafting him.

 

[sb1]

Didn't you get the latest memo? Bill never wanted Mac. He never had anything to do with drafting him.

Lol of course he didn't! Silly me.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

Brady went 8-9 after he had Bruce Arians fired, it's a team game.

Coaching is important also, we're learning that in 2024.

Brady was 45 years old the year he went 8-9. I mean did you see Mike Tyson the other night? At some point, age catches up with everyone

 

[Wozzy]

He was 45 ****ing years old. Jesus you are hopeless.

So age finally caught up to him and made him a bad athlete? What about in 2002 a year removed from winning a SB?

It's a team sport, it takes players and coaches. Doug Pederson has a statue outside Eagle's stadium because his offensive and defensive coordinators were great at their job and his GM is probably the best in the league.

The Buc's fell off a cliff when Arians got canned, Brady was the coordinator and Leftwich was his surrogate. Bowles had to wait until Tom retired to reclaim control and fire Leftwich. In his defense Tom wife was also making his life hell and was a total harpy.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

So age finally caught up to him and made him a bad athlete? What about in 2002 a year removed from winning a SB?

It's a team sport, it takes players and coaches. Doug Pederson has a statue outside Eagle's stadium because his offensive and defensive coordinators were great at their job and his GM is probably the best in the league.

The Buc's fell off a cliff when Arians got canned, Brady was the coordinator and Leftwich was his surrogate. Bowles had to wait until Tom retired to reclaim control and fire Leftwich. In his defense Tom wife was also making his life hell and a total harpy.

Yes, that does tend to happen to people approaching their mid 40s…

 

[sb1]

So age finally caught up to him and made him a bad athlete? What about in 2002 a year removed from winning a SB?

Who was Brady's coach in 2002? And what does that year have to do with anything?

It's a team sport, it takes players and coaches.

Great players > great coaches. Every time.

I bet Brady could have even taken Hue Jackson to a title. The same guy that could be one of the worst coaches ever.

And Bill was a great coach (at least until a couple seasons ago) but what has he won without Brady?

 

[Ray Ray 717]

Start #2 for Mac… 18-29, 138 yards passing, at 4.8 yards per (!), zero TD’s, another interception and a 56.4 QB Rating.

Is BB embarrassed yet?

#BlameBill

Bill gets the blame for this…

2018-2020 NFL drafts players who fell to the Patriots and we passed on them:

Lamar Jackson
Calvin Ridley
AJ Brown
DK Metcalf
Deebo Samuel
DJ Moore
Nick Chubb
Tee Higgins
Brandon Aiyuk
Diontae Johnson
Courtland Sutton
Michael Pittman
Terry McLaurin
De’Andre Swift

 

[Wozzy]

Brady was 45 years old the year he went 8-9. I mean did you see Mike Tyson the other night? At some point, age catches up with everyone

You realize these fights with the Paul bros are fake right?

Celebrity boxing matches aren't real sport, they're more scripted than pro wrestling.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I agree the team was in a bad spot, needed a QB... Jonathan and Wolf talked him into Mac. They should have waited and taken Davis Mills later like BB wanted to.

I was torn on him and Micah Parsons. Parsons was a boom/bust. I’m glad both weren’t available because that would’ve been a tough call.

 

[Wozzy]

Who was Brady's coach in 2002? And what does that year have to do with anything?

Great players > great coaches. Every time.

I bet Brady could have even taken Hue Jackson to a title. The same guy that could be one of the worst coaches ever.

And Bill was a great coach (at least until a couple seasons ago) but what has he won without Brady?

If Brady went to a Hue Jackson type franchise as a rookie he'd be a real estate agent in California with a limp.

 

[Wozzy]

Bill gets the blame for this…

2018-2020 NFL drafts players who fell to the Patriots and we passed on them:

Lamar Jackson
Calvin Ridley
AJ Brown
DK Metcalf
Deebo Samuel
DJ Moore
Nick Chubb
Tee Higgins
Brandon Aiyuk
Diontae Johnson
Courtland Sutton
Michael Pittman
Terry McLaurin
De’Andre Swift

Andy Reid didn't draft any of those guys either, does he suck or is that just a list of good NFL players?

 

[sb1]

2021 NFL QB draft class
1- Lawrence - Starter. Meh
2- Wilson - 3rd string in Denver. Bust
3- Lance - backup in Dallas. Bust
11- Fields - backup in Pitt. Bust
15- Jones- backup in Jax. Busted after a decent rookie season
64- Trask- backup in Tampa and nowhere near ready to take Mayfield's job. Bust
66- Mond - on his 4th NFL team. Bust
67- Mills - serviceable backup in Houston.
133- Book - released by KC in camp and out of the league.
218- Ehlinger - QB3 for the Colts

Woof. That is horrible

 

[sb1]

If Brady went to a Hue Jackson type franchise as a rookie he'd be a real estate agent in California with a limp.

Peyton Manning took Caldwell who was a terrible college coach to a Super Bowl game. Don't see why Brady couldn't win one with Hue Jackson as his coach. Great players are much more important than great coaches. Great coaches can't make bad teams good. Great players especially a great QB can.

 

[TheRainMaker]

2021 NFL QB draft class
1- Lawrence - Starter. Meh
2- Wilson - 3rd string in Denver. Bust
3- Lance - backup in Dallas. Bust
11- Fields - backup in Pitt. Bust
15- Jones- backup in Jax. Bust
64- Trask- backup in Tampa and nowhere near ready to take Mayfield's job. Bust
66- Mond - on his 4th NFL team. Bust
67- Mills - backup in Houston. Serviceable backup in Houston.
133- Book - released by KC in camp and out of the league.
218- Ehlinger - QB3 for the Colts

Woof. That is horrible

It cost Bill his job, but at least they didn’t miss out on another QB.