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ROFLIf you do not understand, that is what is stunning. And you admit it, which is shocking.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.ROFLIf you do not understand, that is what is stunning. And you admit it, which is shocking.
Nothing to do with the Jets. More of me wanting Wilson as a player that's all.The continuing board obsession with the jets is truly stunning.
Why should we care, unless just always need to find someone worse than we are, as much of a losing attitude as there is?
Daniel Jones is the Brissett of the NFC. I would absolutely love to have dabol as OC.. he and Joe shcein wanted our guy maye daye badly!! Slayton is exactly what this offense needs he's sure handed and can run every route.Speaking of NY: Humpty Dumpty Daboll might get canned he's one Fat OC I would like here. We know Daniel Jones is holding him and that entire team back. And regarding Slayton he's as reliable as Jacobi Meyers.
Daniel Jones is the Brissett of the NFC. I would absolutely love to have dabol as OC.. he and Joe shcein wanted our guy maye daye badly!! Slayton is exactly what this offense needs he's sure handed and can run every route.
Do you think Kraft will pay Slayton up to $6M a year when we have Osbourne at $4M a year? Lol. Wolf is GM of the Year 2024, so we can expect to keep Osbourne.
I’m not sure that holds up upon closer scrutiny.Although his views changed over the years( e.g. you don’t draft guards until 4th round) Belichick generally believed that the closer a player was to the ball the more important they were, and that affected his drafting and free agent decisions, as well as compensation.
Bring a player infected with the Jetes stank to New England?The guy I want is Wilson.. and Rodgers in IMO PF2 won't be there next season.. if we can pry Wilson in FA when he's available then that would be huge! NYJ will be back in the QB hunt next season. I agree PF2. That's why it's frustrating when polk and baker should be showing more they have all the opportunities to do so.
Ozzy Osborne is a 1 year rental. Well he paid IR juju more than that!. Slayton would be a trade acquisition of course. 6 million is squirrel nuts for a WR.Do you think Kraft will pay Slayton up to $6M a year when we have Osbourne at $4M a year? Lol. Wolf is GM of the Year 2024, so we can expect to keep Osbourne.
So you're saying no to a top 5 NFL WR??? Wilson is by far the best player on the entire Jets offense. My guy PatsFan2 wants adams.. I like adams but he looks a step slow to me. I'll take Wilson all day!! Gaaaaw Lee he can catch it days Drake!Bring a player infected with the Jetes stank to New England?
Not a good idea, that taint is contagious and can’t be easily removed.
I’m not sure that holds up upon closer scrutiny.
I looked at the first players Bill drafted in every year he was with the Patriots. In 24 years he made 27 picks because in three years (2004, 2012, 2018) he had two picks in the first round and I counted them both. There was also one year (2017) in which he traded the first round pick for a veteran player (Brandin Cooks); I treated that as an anomaly and counted the first player drafted. That was an interesting deal btw, they traded a first (pick #32) and a third (pick #103) for Cooks and fourth (pick #118), then a year later traded Cooks and a fourth (pick #136) to the Rams for a first (pick #23) and a sixth (pick #198). The epitome of Bill’s draft wheeling and dealing.
Here’s the breakdown:
Sixteen defense:
6 CB/DB/S
4 DE
3 DT
3 LB
Eleven offense:
5 OL/OG/OT
2 RB
2 TE
1 WR (plus traded first round pick for Brandin Cooks in 2017)
1 QB
Full list:
2000: No first rounder, OG Adrian Klemm taken at No. 46
2001: No. 6, Richard Symour, DE, Georgia
2002: No. 21, Daniel Graham, TE Colorado
2003: No. 13, Ty Warren, DE Texas A&M
2004: No. 21, Vince Wilfork, DT Miami; No. 32, Ben Watson, TE Georgia
2005: No. 32, Logan Mankins, G Fresno State
2006: No. 21, Laurence Maroney, RB Minnesota
2007: No. 24, Brandon Meriweather, DB Miami
2008: No. 10, Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee
2009: traded back twice, eventually ended up with four second-round picks and two third-rounders; first of their selections was at No. 34 where they traded up for Oregon’s Patrick Chung, DB.
2010: No. 27, Devin McCourty, DB Rutgers
2011: No. 17, Nate Solder, OT Colorado
2012: No. 21 Chandler Jones, DE Syracuse; No. 25, Dont’a Hightower, LB Alabama
2013: traded the No. 29 pick for picks 52, 83, 102, and 229; they went with LB Jamie Collins as their first selection in the second round.
2014: No. 29, Dominique Easley, DT Florida
2015: No. 32, Malcolm Brown, DT Texas
2016: In 2016 the Patriots lost their first-round draft pick as a result of the Deflategate scandal; the team’s first selection was CB Cyrus Jones at No. 60.
2017: The team traded the No. 32 pick to the Saints for WR Brandin Cooks, who played just one year with the team before they traded him for a 2018 first-round pick. Patriots top pick was pick No. 83: Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown State
2018: No. 23, Isaiah Wynn, OT Georgia; No. 31, Sony Michel, RB Georgia
2019: No. 32, N’Keal Harry, WR Arizona State
2020: In 2020, the Patriots traded their first-round selection to the Chargers for a second and third; with its first selection New England went with S Kyle Dugger at No. 37.
2021: No. 15, Mac Jones, QB Alabama
2022: No. 29, Cole Strange, OL Chattanooga
2023: Christian Gonzalez, CB Oregon
I’m not sure that holds up upon closer scrutiny.
I looked at the first players Bill drafted in every year he was with the Patriots. In 24 years he made 27 picks because in three years (2004, 2012, 2018) he had two picks in the first round and I counted them both. There was also one year (2017) in which he traded the first round pick for a veteran player (Brandin Cooks); I treated that as an anomaly and counted the first player drafted. That was an interesting deal btw, they traded a first (pick #32) and a third (pick #103) for Cooks and fourth (pick #118), then a year later traded Cooks and a fourth (pick #136) to the Rams for a first (pick #23) and a sixth (pick #198). The epitome of Bill’s draft wheeling and dealing.
Here’s the breakdown:
Sixteen defense:
6 CB/DB/S
4 DE
3 DT
3 LB
Eleven offense:
5 OL/OG/OT
2 RB
2 TE
1 WR (plus traded first round pick for Brandin Cooks in 2017)
1 QB
Full list:
2000: No first rounder, OG Adrian Klemm taken at No. 46
2001: No. 6, Richard Symour, DE, Georgia
2002: No. 21, Daniel Graham, TE Colorado
2003: No. 13, Ty Warren, DE Texas A&M
2004: No. 21, Vince Wilfork, DT Miami; No. 32, Ben Watson, TE Georgia
2005: No. 32, Logan Mankins, G Fresno State
2006: No. 21, Laurence Maroney, RB Minnesota
2007: No. 24, Brandon Meriweather, DB Miami
2008: No. 10, Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee
2009: traded back twice, eventually ended up with four second-round picks and two third-rounders; first of their selections was at No. 34 where they traded up for Oregon’s Patrick Chung, DB.
2010: No. 27, Devin McCourty, DB Rutgers
2011: No. 17, Nate Solder, OT Colorado
2012: No. 21 Chandler Jones, DE Syracuse; No. 25, Dont’a Hightower, LB Alabama
2013: traded the No. 29 pick for picks 52, 83, 102, and 229; they went with LB Jamie Collins as their first selection in the second round.
2014: No. 29, Dominique Easley, DT Florida
2015: No. 32, Malcolm Brown, DT Texas
2016: In 2016 the Patriots lost their first-round draft pick as a result of the Deflategate scandal; the team’s first selection was CB Cyrus Jones at No. 60.
2017: The team traded the No. 32 pick to the Saints for WR Brandin Cooks, who played just one year with the team before they traded him for a 2018 first-round pick. Patriots top pick was pick No. 83: Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown State
2018: No. 23, Isaiah Wynn, OT Georgia; No. 31, Sony Michel, RB Georgia
2019: No. 32, N’Keal Harry, WR Arizona State
2020: In 2020, the Patriots traded their first-round selection to the Chargers for a second and third; with its first selection New England went with S Kyle Dugger at No. 37.
2021: No. 15, Mac Jones, QB Alabama
2022: No. 29, Cole Strange, OL Chattanooga
2023: Christian Gonzalez, CB Oregon
And his picks in the top 20 (stud territory) were excellent.Actually that list backs up the idea that Belichick prioritized players closer to the ball than those on the perimeter. His first round picks are heavy on linemen on both sides of the ball.
And his picks in the top 20 (stud territory) were excellent.
Jones was the only "failure", clearly a reasonable reach, given the extreme need for a QB.
That would have been soon forgotten when he started putting up 1300 yard seasons.
Bill just couldn't, or wouldn't, draft stud or stud-like WR's. He lucked out with Edelman. Malcolm Mitchell could have been special had his knee not been trashed when he was drafted.
Jones was the only "failure", clearly a reasonable reach, given the extreme need for a QB.
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