PostGame Thread OFFICIAL Postgame Thread: Patriots come up short in Tennessee 20-17 (OT)

[Dec54]

Polk, Wallace, Robinson, and Baker suck. Does anyone even know who the 5th to 7th round picks are? It is hard to judge Slow Polk with stone hands? You are still waiting to see on Wallace and Robinson? Dude, raise the white flag and stop the half season BS.

Brown was awful against the JETS and today. Brown and Jacobs look tolerable because Wolf's original guys are abysmal. Compared to Okorafor the practice squad guys we have look OK. Haha. LOL. Our GM is so bad at picking FAs, we feel blessed with Brown, Jacobs, and Robinson. The PatsFans have no expectations.

The Pats would be 0 - 9. You have confidence in Wolf? Remember when Wolf said Okorafor was a LT? Okorafor is now AWOL. Remember on draft night when Wolf said Wallace could play LT? Wallace is worse than expected. Remember Wolf's press conference when he said the OL was OK? Haha. And you want Wolf in charge of the HC choice? WTF.

It does not have to be magic. Maybe close your eyes, spin around 3 times, and pin the tail on the wall? If you think it is possible to have a worse draft than 2024, minus Maye, you must be eating mushrooms daily.

Basically I'm an optimistic sort of chap. But I must admit even my optimistic outlook is sort of being tested at the moment. You have to assume that the players are trying their best, but their best is obviously just not good enough. So is it the coaching, the front office or what? Whatever it is, someone needs to pull their finger out of their arse, or is it multiple fingers that need pulling?

 

[Dec54]

Basically I'm an optimistic sort of chap. But I must admit even my optimistic outlook is sort of being tested at the moment. You have to assume that the players are trying their best, but their best is obviously just not good enough. So is it the coaching, the front office or what? Whatever it is, someone needs to pull their finger out of their arse, or is it multiple fingers that need pulling?

Here's a thought. Mike McCarthy will be free soon.

 

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[PatsFan2]

I don't take anything AVP say as gospel Maye needs better. Ben Johnson from Detroit please.

 

[Thelonious]

My initial reaction to this was,"Neither this team nor certainly these coaches deserve at this point to have Drake Maye as their QB." I would add the GM as well, and though I have been reluctant to criticize the Krafts in the past - I don't think they are "cheap," for example, I just question their spending priorities - if you want to add them to the list, go for it.

I am pretty much sticking with this reaction, and in light of it, my attitude toward the state of the team and what should be done about it have changed a little. I think we need to get more honest about things;

1) The dismal quality of the roster, and the sloppy, lazy manner in which the team plays have reconfirmed in my mind that the Krafts' asinine and lazy hiring process following the transition from Bill has, as anyone could have predicted and as many did, given us an irremediably inferior set of of coaches and front office staff. The rebuild has stalled, failed as a result. I don't care that Robert finds Mayo a charming travel companion or that Mayo is a fabulously "nice guy." I don't care that Wolfe's daddy had some idea apparently what he was doing": his son does not. The criteria on which this group was hired were asinine, and the results are unacceptable. I understand the feelings of those who assert that Mayo deserves a fair trial, a period in which he can show what he can do, in which he can "grow into the job." But I don't see that he can do much of anything, and I have seen no growth to this point whatsoever. I'm ready to give up on him, and frankly on the entire new team leadership. If there are reasons not to do so - not murmurings about how "things are usually done" - I'd love to hear them. So far, I have not. The sooner the bulk of this group is fired - Mayo and Wolfe in particular - the better. All that is lacking at this point is the balls to do it. Their failings are obvious.

2) I understand the assertion that a player, perhaps a QB in particular, needs to play the game to get better at the game. It's a valid point. I understand that "players play" and that playing so violent a game imposes risks on anyone who plays it. I have favored playing Maye this year, and I see that Drake - unlike his coaches - has indeed learned every week and in important respects has gotten better. However, the team - the o-line and the receiver in particular, of course - are so bad, and the coaches and GM are so unlikely due to their incompetence to be able to do something about it, that it is reasonable to reconsider the wisdom of playing Maye going forward this season. I understand that this would be a unheard-of approach to developing a young qb, but because of his coaches' ineptitude, the past dereliction of the GM office, the level of punishment to which Maye is subject every minute he plays in this **** show, because of the injuries which have resulted already resulted and those which are certainly in the offing, the let-him-play decision must be revisited.

We have not I think been honest enough about what a lousy team management is putting on the field, how historically bad this roster is, how far in decline "team culture" - an alleged area of strength once upon a time for your head coach - has fallen, the real threats to Maye's well-being and future imposed by this ****show roster, and about what an outlandishly poor job the owners have done in building a management team. The Patriots were over a remarkably extended run an outlier on the up side. Now we are an outlier on the down side. The normal rules do not apply. The Krafts need to get honest about what we all see - the utter failure of their team - drop the nonsense, secure the safety of their greatest asset - their qb - and restart the damned rebuild yet again. Extraordinary failure calls for extraordinary measures.

 

[PatsFan2]

Are either RB's Gibson or Hasty worth a dam?? They're both abysmal...RB is a Need in 25 putrid.

 

[Real fan 02]

What was the definition of a “soft” team again?

1. Can’t run the ball: check
2. Can’t stop the run: check
3. Can’t cover kicks: I guess this was good

So they’re two-thirds soft, like when your wife asks if these shorts are too tight

I will continue to say this. Washington and Chicago have better records because they have talent around thier rookie QBs.. our O-line sucks and our D-line sucks. Can't stop it and can't run it. Those are the reasons.

 

[Real fan 02]

Are either RB's Gibson or Hasty worth a dam?? They're both abysmal...RB is a Need in 25 putrid.

It's the OL brother simply put.. rham and gibby are good NFL backs.. the OL could not block the man in front if them. Play caller the if year AVP kept trying to run when nothing was there instead of letting Drake air it out to open up the defense. Also give Titans credit thier defense is what ours should be. They are playing with 3rd stringers too.

 

[Real fan 02]

Agreed, AVP is clearly not the future of this team.

That post was regarding stanfanski. I'd argue stanfanski is a much better offensive mind than AVP.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don't take anything AVP say as gospel Maye needs better. Ben Johnson from Detroit please.

BJ would probably work for free in Detroit then come here with this OL and WRs.

 

[Real fan 02]

Why did his coach wait 5 games to play him is my only question.

 

[archstanton543]

Why did his coach wait 5 games to play him is my only question.

Because the pummeling Jacoby took, Maye would have taken. That was a rough set of games to open up the season with.

 

[PatsFan2]

BJ would probably work for free in Detroit then come here with this OL and WRs.

Don't say that Real... that's my fear nobody wants to come here Period!

 

[Real fan 02]

Because the pummeling Jacoby took, Maye would have taken. That was a rough set of games to open up the season with.

I'm convinced maye would be standing back there for 5 seconds to throw 4 yards like Brissett was. Brissett was a tackle dummy.

 

[archstanton543]

Don't say that Real... that's my fear nobody wants to come here Period!

Maye is enough of a reason for a HC and/or OC would want to come here. Especially after today.

 

[Real fan 02]

Don't say that Real... that's my fear nobody wants to come here Period!

I know brother. If money couldn't get players here then nothing will. Look at caley even he knew the job was a deadening job. We are WR cemetery

 

[Real fan 02]

Maye is enough of a reason for a HC and/or OC would want to come here. Especially after today.

I can't make up excuses anymore for this staff.. it's been all season now they been getting run on.. I give mayo kudos for development of Drake but that's it!