PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL POSTGAME: Pats lose to the Jags 32-16, fall to 1-6

[SVN]

Mayo seemed to throw shade at BB's hard-ass style of coaching early on, but I don't ever recall a BB team making this many unforced errors and committing stupid penalties.

It was wolf who made the whole hard ass vibe comment. but yeah same thing.

 

[SVN]

Jerod Mayo: ‘I’m not making any excuse’ for state of Patriots’ roster

Patriots head coach Jerod Mayo seemed to take a shot at his predecessor, Bill Belichick, last week when he was asked about the state of New England’s roster. He clarified on The Greg Hill Show Monday that he doesn’t blame anyone but himself.

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[Thunderhead]

I bet players were out partying night before the game and Pop's "illness" was a hangover. Clown operation.

 

[pats99]

I think we all fans signed up for patience. I personally cant seem to understand the constant moving narrative , the game day situational football, talking in the media and throwing people under the bus and the players having an open season. These all can be managed in a good program regardless of the skill position players they have. You cant come and brag about running the hill in week 1 and saying we are a runnign team until people stop us then we have other things and after that complete get dismantled in next 5 weeks and blame fatigue and softness. There was a big hoopla about the previous coach not having accoutability, i dont know what the current regime is doing in that regard.

Mayo is out of his depth. Not surprising because this was never an ideal situation for a rookie head coach and now he is starting to panic. I am not sure what his expectation for this season was. He is a rookie head coach, with minimum coaching experience at any level, inheriting a roster that could have been the worst in the NFL last year. He is coaching a franchise that won 6 titles in the last twenty something years with a fan base/media spoiled by the success of that period. You would think he knew what he was getting into.

Say what you want about Bill Belichick but he does not call out his players in ~ public ~. And by pubiic i mean outside of Gillette. And if he calls out the team, he calls out the entire team players, coaches and himself. Always adds we got to coach better.. I see nothing positive in calling out an individual player in public, unless you want him to leave. Whatever you need to do, cut him, bench him, motivate, can be done behind the walls of Gillete. Calling out people publicly seems to me is just a ruse to detract from your own weakneses as a coach.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

I bet players were out partying night before the game and Pop's "illness" was a hangover.

Reports that Pop and some other players were wearing masks in the locker room, suggesting that there was something going around.
That might have played into the last-minute decision to play Bourne as well.

 

[Brotherblues]

Our defense is like a Brazilian bikini trying to stop a fart.

 

[dliverey44]

Everything I said is factual.

What advantage is there to taking 1?

I agree with going for 2 but I am going to try and play devil advocate. If you get the P.A.T and are down by one score that might change the way the other team plays offense. Maybe being up by one score changes the way the Jags attack and potentially forces them to make a mistake because there is more pressure on them to hold onto the ball.

Like I said I think going for 2 was the right call but I can see a reason why people think they should have gone for one.

 

[Ring 6]

I agree with going for 2 but I am going to try and play devil advocate. If you get the P.A.T and are down by one score that might change the way the other team plays offense. Maybe being up by one score changes the way the Jags attack and potentially forces them to make a mistake because there is more pressure on them to hold onto the ball.

Like I said I think going for 2 was the right call but I can see a reason why people think they should have gone for one.

The key is understanding you are either going to make or miss the 2.

If you make it, there is no argument against having gone for it.

If you miss it you only kept from fooling yourself.
Do you really think the difference between 8 and 9 on the other teams “pressure” compared to knowing you have to score another time while you have time to?

 

[dliverey44]

Do you really think the difference between 8 and 9 on the other teams “pressure” compared to knowing you have to score another time while you have time to?

Yes, because in one situation its a one score game and the other is still a 2 score game, so I do believe that could change play calling and urgency. How could you not??

I mean in a normal game not one where the team is already running 20 straight times and doing it well.

 

[Ring 6]

Yes, because in one situation its a one score game and the other is still a 2 score game, so I do believe that could change play calling and urgency. How could you not??

I mean in a normal game not one where the team is already running 20 straight times and doing it well.

I got what you are saying but does that factor outweigh your team playing to score once then miss the 2 and lose any way?
Because it only comes into play if you miss the 2.

 

[sb1]

Everything I said is factual.

What advantage is there to taking 1?

Because it's better than 0 which is what actually happened. Plenty of time to get the ball back and maybe twice.

 

[SVN]

That was just amazingly bad, wasn't it? I had thought that in time the defense would adapt to Covington's approach, to his manner of coaching or to whatever changes he might make in the schemes. I no longer think that is the case. Even with generous allowance for the injuries, the defense is, well, indefensibly awful: sloppy in meeting individual responsibilities, indifferent as to the fundamentals, incapable of in-game adjustments, *****ing about one another, seemingly ill-conditioned, only intermittently committed to their work. ALL of this is attributable to coaching.

I would attribute the failures of the offense first to the dismal quality of the roster, making Wolfe the top culprit for that unit. To my eye, given his failings under both Belichick and Mayo, Wolfe's performance has been so dismal that he should be let go immediately. We need - yet again, for f's sake - to start over rebuilding the roster. Step one is getting rid of this preening nepo punk. As for Van Pelt, he obviously lacks the skill to devise a game plan, to make in-game adjustments, to capitalize on the particular skills of individual players, and so on. He may or may not make a suitable QB coach for Drake May, but to this point he is not working out as OC. I would give him the rest of the year, but barring a very surprising change in his approach, I would anticipate he will be a one-and-done.

I have probably posted too much about Mayo, so I'll skip the details, but to this point his tenure is an obvious bust. The team is by any reasonable standard or metric in a state of failure. It is the worst team in the league, and - ironically enough for a HC who claims to value "culture" and "relationships" - the team is falling apart as a group of men capable of and willing to work together. I would in fairness give Mayo the remainder of the season to show what he can do, but I would expect, again barring unlikely major changes in his approach, Mayo also to be out at season's end.

How did it come to this? Simple. The Krafts chose not to have a legitimate, professional hiring process after rightly letting Bill go, and this is the result: an inexperienced and incompetent coaching and front office staff. They got lazy, sloppy, inattentive, cheap; apparently thinking that ditching Bill would magically put things right. The worst offense, of course, was permitting Robert's silly infatuation with Jerod as a charming travel companion determine who would lead the rebuild of their team. I am not one who has complained much about the Krafts in the past, but clearly it is time for change there as well. I don't know if Johnathan can do the job, but it is clear, I take no delight in saying, that Robert no longer can.

I am aware that this post sounds like an indulgence in bomb-throwing, but I think that this is a reflection not so much of my animus or curmudgeonly ways as it is of the team's obvious failings, or so I imagine..

They never had a hiring process. Rememebr they had a clause in mayo's contract to avoid the rooney rule? They decided long before 2023 that Bill would be replaced by mayo. According to them everyone execpt Bill was good enough to move forward. That whole charade of wolf being interim GM and then made permanent was obvious to see.

 

[SVN]

Curran: As issues pile up, Patriots are running out of excuses

The Patriots have been put in a bad spot this season, but there's still no reason the team should be this dysfunctional, writes Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

Actually, this was a little more than a brushfire. Mayo using the S-word at about 1 p.m. ET meant it was right in the sweet spot for football-watching America. By 7 p.m., his former teammate, close friend and fellow Quick Slants co-host Devin McCourty was on NBC's Football Night in America saying the following:

“Toughness isn’t a skillset. You don’t need to be fast or do anything special to be tough. The second part of that is, ‘Why, Jerod? Why is this team not tough?’

"When you hear a team isn’t tough and they are soft, you think, ‘What is the head coach doing? How is he getting them ready to go?’ Mayo and that staff have a lot of questions to answer going in the next week.”

The questions should be coming from within the building. From players to coaches.

 

[Ring 6]

Curran: As issues pile up, Patriots are running out of excuses

The Patriots have been put in a bad spot this season, but there's still no reason the team should be this dysfunctional, writes Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

Quote of the year from Curran


Meanwhile, offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt is going 57 MPH in the left lane with his hands at 10-and-2.

 

[captain stone]

Mayo seemed to throw shade at BB's hard-ass style of coaching early on, but I don't ever recall a BB team making this many unforced errors and committing stupid penalties.

Except for the last two seasons you mean…

 

[Ross12]

Curran: As issues pile up, Patriots are running out of excuses

The Patriots have been put in a bad spot this season, but there's still no reason the team should be this dysfunctional, writes Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

Don’t worry, Mayo says the coaches have done everything right and always call the perfect play, the players just need to do their jobs correctly.

 

[sb1]

Mayo seemed to throw shade at BB's hard-ass style of coaching early on, but I don't ever recall a BB team making this many unforced errors and committing stupid penalties.

2023

 

[TommyD4207]

Correct, you kick the extra point, then it's a one score game and forces Jax to play for a FG at least etc etc. Now the way they were moving the ball it might not have mattered but still..its the right call.

This is so basic. I have no idea why there are people actually trying to defend this.

 

[TommyD4207]

The local media as expected is carrying water for mayo. They are giving him every chance to explain and move back. I bet if it was the previous coach it would be directly pointed at his locker room culture

They're part of The Committee.
Of course they're carrying the water.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Don’t worry, Mayo says the coaches have done everything right and always call the perfect play, the players just need to do their jobs correctly.

He says it's on him for not coaching properly.