Greg Bedard assessments: Texans game, Drake Maye performance

[Tunescribe]

Agreed on the fumble , protection wasnt good but the ball needs to get out. Or he has to tuck it in for the sack. On tape there were 2 guys open pretty early, not sure if they were just later in the progression or he just couldn’t decide on where to go, im ok with missing the open guy but protecting the ball is priority.

The second pick was a fluke imo, not gonna hold that against him. Most of the time those are batted down at worst. You often see passes batted down at the los but in my memory very rare it pops softly into a defenders arms.

The second pick was a near-impossible catch but Drake misjudged how high he had to loft the ball over the defender so it couldn't be tipped.

 

[Ross12]

Depends on your scale.

If you are grading based on expectations for a debut performance, Maye did pretty well.

If you are grading Maye based on what you expect a winning QB to do in a game, then two picks and a fumble gets you a C- if you really sling the ball otherwise.

This makes sense to me.

Bedard had Maye with the most minus plays he's recorded since 2021.

How is that even possible?

More than Mac Jones?

This does NOT make sense to me.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

The second pick was a near-impossible catch but Drake misjudged how high he had to loft the ball over the defender so it couldn't be tipped.

True and that part of its on him. But i think its a pretty common error that mostly just results in an incomplete. Hard to dock him too badly on that one.

 

[mike_usagisan]

True and that part of its on him. But i think its a pretty common error that mostly just results in an incomplete. Hard to dock him too badly on that one.

He had a couple of tipped balls. He'll need to work on getting the ball a little higher over the D-linemen, but it's a learning experience.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

He had a couple of tipped balls. He'll need to work on getting the ball a little higher over the D-linemen, but it's a learning experience.

Did he? That was the only one I remembered but ill take your word on that. If its happening multiple times it definitely increases the odds of a turnover

 

[festy1986]

Not sure what you mean by "grifting." It's a sports talk show so of course they're going to stir the pot with controversial takes, it's the nature of the beast. But as I've pointed out several times now, Bedard's analyses are objective. The problem in this for us is the Patriots have been more bad than good in recent years and the truth can be hard to hear.

Feel free to Google it if you're not sure what I mean.

I think it's obvious.

 

[Tunescribe]

Feel free to Google it if you're not sure what I mean.

I think it's obvious.

I know the definition of "grifting," just not sure why you suggest it's something unique to Felger/Mazz and not typical of sports talk radio in general. But, please try to separate that from what Bedard offers.

 

[rkarp1]

Feel free to Google it if you're not sure what I mean.

I think it's obvious.

agree
Bedard knows what he is talking about, but these days he has an agenda predicated on eyes, ears and clicks. he has a family to support. he has become very good as the voice "what happened on the field". he doesn't have much juice anymore on locker room and behind the scenes, but he is great with x's and o's. doing a real good job monetizing it

 

[mike_usagisan]

Did he? That was the only one I remembered but ill take your word on that. If its happening multiple times it definitely increases the odds of a turnover

I remember seeing it at least twice and resulted in the second interception. Not a big deal as we weren't winning that game and I have no doubt Maye will fix that with practice.

 

[Vindicate]

Feels pretty silly to dole out grades on a first start QB without factoring in it being his first start. It's just a tool to give a lesser, and therefore, more click-driving grade.

That's like me grading a baby on their recent combine performance but choosing to not factor in they don't even have a fully formed skull or skeletal system yet.

 

[festy1986]

I know the definition of "grifting," just not sure why you suggest it's something unique to Felger/Mazz and not typical of sports talk radio in general. But, please try to separate that from what Bedard offers.

Bedard is way too negative to not have a agenda. It's derivative and designed to increase engagement.

He should move on to another market. It's run dry here.

 

[Tunescribe]

Feels pretty silly to dole out grades on a first start QB without factoring in it being his first start. It's just a tool to give a lesser, and therefore, more click-driving grade.

That's like me grading a baby on their recent combine performance but choosing to not factor in they don't even have a fully formed skull or skeletal system yet.

Again: Bedard's grades are STRICTLY for performance at the position in that game. They have nothing to do with player history or level of experience.

 

[Tunescribe]

Bedard is way too negative to not have a agenda. It's derivative and designed to increase engagement.

He should move on to another market. It's run dry here.

He gives credit where credit is due. So you throw out all his positive observations because you don't like him itemizing where the team/players fall short? We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

 

[Steve102]

Bedard gave Maye a C-...really??

I didn't listen to Bedard, but I don't have a problem with that grade. 2 picks and a fumble get you deductions, and they lost.

 

[festy1986]

He gives credit where credit is due. So you throw out all his positive observations because you don't like him itemizing where the team/players fall short? We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

No one goes as hard as you are right now for Bedard without a motive.

So what is it?

 

[Vindicate]

Again: Bedard's grades are STRICTLY for performance at the position in that game. They have nothing to do with player history or level of experience.

I'm aware. I just think that's silly, personally.

 

[PatsFan2]

Maye had no RB no Offensive Tackles and got a C Grade Hofer in the making right there.

 

[Tunescribe]

I'm aware. I just think that's silly, personally.

His commentary addresses the context; for instance, he said Maye did a lot of good things for a rookie's first outing. For me, grading strictly on performance by position is the only way to be objectively accurate re. what is working and what isn't.

 

[Family]

This makes sense to me.


This does NOT make sense to me.

Nor me, but Bedard laid out the negative plays. He's not just randomly saying this, though I think it's nuts.

Bottom line Maye did well. I just want to see consistent accuracy.

In the end isn't that the most important attribute of a QB? Consistency???

 

[Rob0729]

Sure the fumble was on him, he needs better awareness (which will come with experience). So were both interceptions, but some argument could be made against the second.

Both INTs were on him. It was dumb luck that the tipped ball went to the defender, but he did throw a screen where the defender was standing alone in the passing lane to tip the ball. He should have never thrown that pass.



There were some very promising things from the performance, but Maye is still a long way away from being a good QB. I don't have a problem with Bedard's assessment. I didn't notice the bad footwork which is concerning to me. Bedard said he doesn't grade on a curve so Maye got same grade as a first time starter that he would have gotten as a ten year veteran.

But all that said, it was his first start against a great defense. I am not going to judge him based on one game good or bad. I am a little more concerned that they rushed him out there though based on what Bedard said, but not concerned he will regress or develop/maintain bad habits yet.