Is Mayo the Right Guy to be leading this team?

[Real fan 02]

well... He and Kraft have worked well together in the past... just sayin'

Yes they did get the 2011 CBA done...

 

[Real fan 02]

God cut Mayo some slack, give him a proper chance. He is new and learning, haven't we all had to at times. Yes I know none of us are NFL HC so no need to point it out.
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That was a jab at the malarkey post on my guy mayo. Of course he is. I agree with you. Mayo is my guy and I'm going to support him.

 

[Ring 6]

Oh sure he was.. he's experienced isn't that what posters want the experienced HC..

So your opinion is that there was once a coach hired on an interim basis with no experience and he did poorly so now he is the example of an experienced coach and your counter argument to the claim that experience is a positive in a coach?

 

[Rob0729]

Who knows if Mayo is the right guy for this. He has been dealt a bad hand in terms of talent for a team, but he also has made some sizable mistakes. But would other rookie head coaches be all that better?

You cannot judge a head coach after 4 games. If you judged Josh McDaniels in Denver after 4 games into his head coaching career, you would think he was on his way to a very successful career. I mean the Broncos went 6-0 under McDaniels his first year as head coach there and ended the season 8-8 and he was fired after the next season.

 

[Pape]

I can appreciate the thought behind that even while I doubt your hope will be anything other than in vain. If nothing else the whole ongoing Kraft vs BB vs Brady thing has taught us the derailments will continue apace. The kids just can't seem to help themselves.

Try & fail > not trying at all.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Your right. We should have went with Jeff Saturday.

If that was the only other choice, then it shows how bad the Mayo hire was.

Oh sure he was.. he's experienced isn't that what posters want the experienced HC..

He was/still isn't experienced. But he did beat a BB disciple in his first NFL game which eventually led to McDaniels exit. Bro **** talked Saturday, then loses to him. lol.

 

[Real fan 02]

If that was the only other choice, then it shows how bad the Mayo hire was.

He’s was/still isn't experienced. But he did beat a BB disciple in his first NFL game which eventually led to McDaniels exit. Bro **** talked Saturday, then loses to him. lol.

There were other choices I for one was on board with Vrabel coming here. He expressed that he would love to be HC here. Then I later found out that it was already a done deal with Mayo being HC.. his tenure is still young. I can say this Mayo will end up a better coach at this point next season than he is today.

 

[Ring 6]

God cut Mayo some slack, give him a proper chance. He is new and learning, haven't we all had to at times. Yes I know none of us are NFL HC so no need to point it out.
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I guess the concern is why would we, out of all the candidates out there pick a guy who need to learn how to do the job?
Kraft chose him before he ever coached a day at any level.

I know you like Mayo, but it’s hard to support choosing a guy who never coached, deciding he is your next HC before his first day on the job, making him an inside LB coach for 5 years, never bring a coordinator and hiring him without even interviewing another candidate.

Kraft likes to say he is just taking stewardship of the organization for the fans. How many fans think that is the best process to hire a HC?

 

[TheRainMaker]

Who knows if Mayo is the right guy for this. He has been dealt a bad hand in terms of talent for a team,

That was a valid excuse, until he signed four players to unnecessary top of market contracts.

You cannot judge a head coach after 4 games. If you judged Josh McDaniels in Denver after 4 games into his head coaching career, you would think he was on his way to a very successful career. I mean the Broncos went 6-0 under McDaniels his first year as head coach there and ended the season 8-8 and he was fired after the next season.

Other than the dumb media, people that actually watched the games knew the team was going to crash and burn with the lack of talent they had.

 

[lancerman]

I’m not really sure what patsfans expected here.

You have to realize there is a subset of delusional people in this fanbase that spent the last few years desperately believing that this was a good team that was only one quick fix away

-"Cam is so bad it's holding this awesome team back"
-"Mac's a rookie he will take a step forward"
-"Patricia is a horrible OC, getting a real one will change everything"
-"Mac is so bad that literally anyone would turn this team into a contender".

Mayo being a new coach with some growing pains is an easy scapegoat for why a bad team is playing bad. They were a mistake riddled team last year with the most detail oriented head coach in history. This is not a talented squad and needs time to refresh it with talent than can actually make a difference. They aren't even starting their intended QB of the future at this point. People need to just accept this is a rebuild or find something else to do.

 

[Ring 6]

There were other choices I for one was on board with Vrabel coming here. He expressed that he would love to be HC here. Then I later found out that it was already a done deal with Mayo being HC.. his tenure is still young. I can say this Mayo will end up a better coach at this point next season than he is today.

Can you explain why he will be better next year?
50% get better and 50% get worse, that’s his competition works.
And it’s relative to the other 31. Everyone in every job learns things, so it’s not learning that makes you better, it’s outpacing the growth of your competition.

 

[Ring 6]

You have to realize there is a subset of delusional people in this fanbase that spent the last few years desperately believing that this was a good team that was only one quick fix away

-"Cam is so bad it's holding this awesome team back"
-"Mac's a rookie he will take a step forward"
-"Patricia is a horrible OC, getting a real one will change everything"
-"Mac is so bad that literally anyone would turn this team into a contender".

Mayo being a new coach with some growing pains is an easy scapegoat for why a bad team is playing bad. They were a mistake riddled team last year with the most detail oriented head coach in history. This is not a talented squad and needs time to refresh it with talent than can actually make a difference. They aren't even starting their intended QB of the future at this point. People need to just accept this is a rebuild or find something else to do.

The offense is worse than any of those 4 years.
Zero WRs are averaging more receiving yards per game that Juju and Parker did last year.
They had the ability to choose an entire coaching staff, the 3rd pick in every round, and $100,000,000 to spend and have not improved any aspect of the team.
The team has gone backwards.

 

[lancerman]

Or the defense wasn’t nearly as good last year as people think they were. I can’t take a “top 10” ranking seriously when there’s a 72-3 annihilation over 2 games in there plus a schedule featuring Trevor Siemian, Zach Wilson, Minshew, Devito at QB for the other team.

I think they were a product of schedule more than anything else.

They were never good last year. They were at best a mediocre passing defense and a strong rushing defense.

The last few years fans jerked off to the defense for beating up on scrubs and then looking incompetent against the elite teams. That's fine if you want to lean on some stats to feel good about the team, but it also leads to going into the playoffs against the Bills and never getting a stop and being humiliated and realizing you have no business even thinking about winning anything worthwhile.

 

[Rob0729]

That was a valid excuse, until he signed four players to unnecessary top of market contracts.

Other than the dumb media, people that actually watched the games knew the team was going to crash and burn with the lack of talent they had.

In the first three weeks, they had two wins where they won game by 20 or more points and then beat the Patriots in the fourth week. I don't think it was universal that people thought the team was going to crash and burn.

 

[Dec54]

I guess the concern is why would we, out of all the candidates out there pick a guy who need to learn how to do the job?
Kraft chose him before he ever coached a day at any level.

I know you like Mayo, but it’s hard to support choosing a guy who never coached, deciding he is your next HC before his first day on the job, making him an inside LB coach for 5 years, never bring a coordinator and hiring him without even interviewing another candidate.

Kraft likes to say he is just taking stewardship of the organization for the fans. How many fans think that is the best process to hire a HC?

Never coached? coached on Belichick's staff from 2019 to 2023. Some teammates called Mayo "Mini Bill" because they believed he saw the game through a coach's lens.

 

[Ring 6]

Never coached? coached on Belichick's staff from 2019 to 2023. Some teammates called Mayo "Mini Bill" because they believed he saw the game through a coach's lens.

I said he never coached before Kraft chose him to be the next HC, which Kraft is in record as saying he decided on the trip to Israel in 2018.

 

[h0c2000]

If the Pats win today, Mayo's winning career coaching winning percentage is basically the same as Bill's without Tom.

 

[lancerman]

It’s amazing how posters acknowledge how bad BB disciples have been, but think Mayo was going to buck the trend for some reason. History is not in Mayo’s side succeeding.

This was an emotional hire by Bobby. Mayo had no businesses being a HC who isn’t known for anything around the league. Almost every coach who gets hired as a HC is known for “something”.

He’s Jim Tomsula 2.0.

Tbh my biggest issue with Mayo was specifically that he was a Bill Belichick disciple because they haven't panned out. He turned out to not be one of those clowns who thought they could mimic Bill's hardass attitude and piss all the players off so that is a plus.

The issue is, this was still a bad team last year and was going to be a bad team this year. Didn't matter who you got as HC because they were always going to be part of a longer term rebuild and have a hand tied behind their back this year. It's dumb to compare him to Tomsula who had inherited a team that was either a winning or .500 team for the 5 years preceeding him. Mayo inherited a team that Bill Belchick could only get 4 wins out of.

 

[Ring 6]

If the Pats win today, Mayo's winning career coaching winning percentage is basically the same as Bill's without Tom.

If they lose today it’s worse than **** MacPherson and Clive Rush

 

[lancerman]

Who knows if Mayo is the right guy for this. He has been dealt a bad hand in terms of talent for a team, but he also has made some sizable mistakes. But would other rookie head coaches be all that better?

You cannot judge a head coach after 4 games. If you judged Josh McDaniels in Denver after 4 games into his head coaching career, you would think he was on his way to a very successful career. I mean the Broncos went 6-0 under McDaniels his first year as head coach there and ended the season 8-8 and he was fired after the next season.

If you judged Bill Belichick on his first season he had 5 wins after inheriting an 8-8 team. Mayo MIGHT not be the guy. But holy **** is it stupid to try to decide that right now.