Content Post Pats-Eagles All-22 Review of the Offense

[Ross12]

Bourne, Thornton, Douglas, Polk and Baker are locks.

After that you are picking one out of Reagor, Boutte and Osborn, though perhaps it’s two if Bourne starts on PUP.

In either scenario, for me, I’m probably keeping Boutte. I don’t really think there’s a serious difference today between Boutte and Osborn, and Boutte can still develop into something more, so it would be nice to keep working with him. If Bourne starts on PUP then I would probably hang onto Osborn for now and then re-evaluate the position when Bourne gets back, although Reagor also makes sense as a KR, so I could go either way. Heck, maybe Wallis even gets the nod.

 

[Clonamery]

Bourne, Thornton, Douglas, Polk and Baker are locks.

After that you are picking one out of Reagor, Boutte and Osborn, though perhaps it’s two if Bourne starts on PUP.

In either scenario, for me, I’m probably keeping Boutte. I don’t really think there’s a serious difference today between Boutte and Osborn, and Boutte can still develop into something more, so it would be nice to keep working with him. If Bourne starts on PUP then I would probably hang onto Osborn for now and then re-evaluate the position when Bourne gets back, although Reagor also makes sense as a KR, so I could go either way. Heck, maybe Wallis even gets the nod.

Be nice to have Wallis and Jackson on the PS.

 

[slash83]

Bourne, Thornton, Douglas, Polk and Baker are locks.

After that you are picking one out of Reagor, Boutte and Osborn, though perhaps it’s two if Bourne starts on PUP.

In either scenario, for me, I’m probably keeping Boutte. I don’t really think there’s a serious difference today between Boutte and Osborn, and Boutte can still develop into something more, so it would be nice to keep working with him. If Bourne starts on PUP then I would probably hang onto Osborn for now and then re-evaluate the position when Bourne gets back, although Reagor also makes sense as a KR, so I could go either way. Heck, maybe Wallis even gets the nod.

I don’t think Thorton is a lock at all. Guys done nothing in preseason, hasn’t been great in camp and has no guaranteed money.

 

[Thunderhead]

Bourne, Thornton, Douglas, Polk and Baker are locks.

After that you are picking one out of Reagor, Boutte and Osborn, though perhaps it’s two if Bourne starts on PUP.

In either scenario, for me, I’m probably keeping Boutte. I don’t really think there’s a serious difference today between Boutte and Osborn, and Boutte can still develop into something more, so it would be nice to keep working with him. If Bourne starts on PUP then I would probably hang onto Osborn for now and then re-evaluate the position when Bourne gets back, although Reagor also makes sense as a KR, so I could go either way. Heck, maybe Wallis even gets the nod.

I'll be frustrated if Boutte is cut in favor of Reagor or Osborn. Especially if he ends up being claimed by a team like KC. We know what Reagor and Osborn are - keep the potential upside in Boutte.

 

[PatsFan2]

I'll be frustrated if Boutte is cut in favor of Reagor or Osborn. Especially if he ends up being claimed by a team like KC. We know what Reagor and Osborn are - keep the potential upside in Boutte.

Pop Douglas - Tyquan - Polk - Osborn - Baker and Reagor we know Bourne is on PUP. I am going to settle on that Group K.J. Osborn is a vet and Reagor likes it here a former First Rounder who adds speed and return ability.

I still can't see this Team carrying Seven WR's I think they're going to gamble on Boutte making the Taxi squad.

 

[Ross12]

I don’t think Thorton is a lock at all. Guys done nothing in preseason, hasn’t been great in camp and has no guaranteed money.

He has done nothing in preseason because he has barely played. The team has held him out and only let him play a handful of snaps to start games - leading us to think he's probably a "starter".

He has definitely been good in camp - he's separating well. Brissett has just done a bad job passing it to him accurately.

Guaranteed money isn't really a sensible factor to consider, since almost none of these guys have significant guaranteed money. The only one who does is Osborn, and even he only has around $3M which isn't enough to make it worth keeping him over a more promising player. By that logic, Juju would still be here, who had the most guarantees of all.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Bourne, Thornton, Douglas, Polk and Baker are locks.

After that you are picking one out of Reagor, Boutte and Osborn, though perhaps it’s two if Bourne starts on PUP.

In either scenario, for me, I’m probably keeping Boutte. I don’t really think there’s a serious difference today between Boutte and Osborn, and Boutte can still develop into something more, so it would be nice to keep working with him. If Bourne starts on PUP then I would probably hang onto Osborn for now and then re-evaluate the position when Bourne gets back, although Reagor also makes sense as a KR, so I could go either way. Heck, maybe Wallis even gets the nod.

Wallis to the practice squad, Bourne stays on PUP, keep 6: Pop, TT, Boutte, Polk, Baker, and either Reagor or Osborne.

Hard to imagine cutting any of those 7, so maybe one turns an ankle and ends up on IR.

 

[Ross12]

Wallis to the practice squad, Bourne stays on PUP, keep 6: Pop, TT, Boutte, Polk, Baker, and either Reagor or Osborne.

Hard to imagine cutting any of those 7, so maybe one turns an ankle and ends up on IR.

Yeah you pretty much said the same thing I said there. Wallis could possibly go to the PS and get a couple game day elevations as a returner.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Bourne, Thornton, Douglas, Polk and Baker are locks.

After that you are picking one out of Reagor, Boutte and Osborn, though perhaps it’s two if Bourne starts on PUP.

In either scenario, for me, I’m probably keeping Boutte. I don’t really think there’s a serious difference today between Boutte and Osborn, and Boutte can still develop into something more, so it would be nice to keep working with him. If Bourne starts on PUP then I would probably hang onto Osborn for now and then re-evaluate the position when Bourne gets back, although Reagor also makes sense as a KR, so I could go either way. Heck, maybe Wallis even gets the nod.

The argument for Osborn over Boutte (or other young guys) would be just to have someone out there who's been around the block some and won't be making the same rookie/young player mental errors as the other guys. Particularly if Maye is in there.

Personally, I think this team only needs one of Bourne/Osborn because I think collectively the young guys have shown enough promise to where they can fill out the 4 gameday active WR depth chart in 3 of the slots along with the one vet. So I'd keep Bourne on PUP to start the year and go with Douglas/Polk/Thornton/Osborn/Baker/Boutte all to start the year. We have other kick returners and Reagor has no long term importance or potential. When Bourne comes back, give him Osborn's spot unless Osborn has played well and/or the other young guys have been such dasasters that you need to keep both.

 

[PatsFan2]

The argument for Osborn over Boutte (or other young guys) would be just to have someone out there who's been around the block some and won't be making the same rookie/young player mental errors as the other guys. Particularly if Maye is in there.

Personally, I think this team only needs one of Bourne/Osborn because I think collectively the young guys have shown enough promise to where they can fill out the 4 gameday active WR depth chart in 3 of the slots along with the one vet. So I'd keep Bourne on PUP to start the year and go with Douglas/Polk/Thornton/Osborn/Baker/Boutte all to start the year. We have other kick returners and Reagor has no long term importance or potential. When Bourne comes back, give him Osborn's spot unless Osborn has played well and/or the other young guys have been such dasasters that you need to keep both.

Jalen Reagor looks the part and he can play on ST's he's a former First Rounder I would take him over Boutte. Reagor is also a speed guy we need another speed or X if Thornton gets injured Reagor is that guy.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Jalen Reagor looks the part and he can play on ST's he's a former First Rounder I would take him overt Boutte. Reagor is also a speed guy we need another speed or X if Thornton gets injured Reagor is that guy.

Boutte is solid, I don't see us parting with him. Rugged, good hands, competitive speed, big play guy, has a year of experience. He's more valuable than Baker I would say, as a 2nd year player/low draft choice, and we all like Baker.

We just have 1 or 2 extra guys here of the same ability, going to be some real tough choices or some imaginative injuries & PS moves.

 

[Ross12]

Jalen Reagor looks the part and he can play on ST's he's a former First Rounder I would take him overt Boutte. Reagor is also a speed guy we need another speed or X if Thornton gets injured Reagor is that guy.

I get the sense that Reagor will make the team. He’s played a lot with the top unit and he makes sense as both the top kick returner and as a backup to Thornton as the burner. He’s not outstanding but he’s better than he was last year and showing steady improvement. He’s also still in his mid 20s so there’s room to grow.

 

[PatsFan2]

Boutte is solid, I don't see us parting with him. Rugged, good hands, competitive speed, big play guy, has a year of experience. He's more valuable than Baker I would say, as a 2nd year player/low draft choice, and we all like Baker.

We just have 1 or 2 extra guys here of the same ability, going to be some real tough choices or some imaginative injuries & PS moves.

40yrs: Reagor have been a bust up till now he seems to be doing alright here some guys get "it" later *5th year Breakout*?? Reagor has one of the most impressive College tapes I seen from a prospect. I would have taken him over J Jefferson seriously I thought Reagor was the better College player. Dudes like 25 I think our Coaching staff likes him...who knows he might start to live up to his First Round billing. On Boutte who I also like I see a lot of redundancy on our Roster @ WR ie... Osborn - Bourne - Polk and Boutte are all similar players same skill sets. Can't keep everybody I think K Boutte makes our Taxi squad.

 

[PatsFan2]

I get the sense that Reagor will make the team. He’s played a lot with the top unit and he makes sense as both the top kick returner and as a backup to Thornton as the burner. He’s not outstanding but he’s better than he was last year and showing steady improvement. He’s also still in his mid 20s so there’s room to grow.

This Offense NEEDs all the help it can get that's why I'm leaning towards keeping both K.J. Osborn and Jalen Reagor. That said at the very least KJ Osborn should give us at least 500yds nice guy in the rotation.

 

[Ross12]

This Offense NEEDs all the help it can get that's why I'm leaning towards keeping both K.J. Osborn and Jalen Reagor.

I agree but on the fence on Osborn vs. Boutte. Keep one or the other. One is younger with growth potential but the other is a seasoned vet. They do need some vet experience but hard to let go of Boutte. Maybe you end up trading one.

 

[PatsFan2]

I getting that same vibes too regarding Osborn I don't think we have seen or heard enough.

I've changed my tune on him we could use those number and Kirk Cousins spoke highly of him.

K.J. Osborn Career Stats - NFL - ESPN

Complete career NFL stats for Tennessee Titans Wide Receiver K.J. Osborn on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.

www.espn.com

 

[PatsFan2]

I agree but on the fence on Osborn vs. Boutte. Keep one or the other. One is younger with growth potential but the other is a seasoned vet. They do need some vet experience but hard to let go of Boutte. Maybe you end up trading one.

I went back and forth with him and Boutte I'm choosing Osborn with an outside shot that Boutte makes our PS. Also they're some Teams that are Stacked at WR Green Bay - Chicago - Cincinnati and Houston. I don't think Boutte is that high a priority for another Team sometimes we overrate our own players look at the Zappe situation last year.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Jalen Reagor looks the part and he can play on ST's he's a former First Rounder I would take him over Boutte. Reagor is also a speed guy we need another speed or X if Thornton gets injured Reagor is that guy.

Good points. Just to clarify my stance a bit... I think Reagor is better than Boutte if you're talking about as a depth piece for the 2024 Patriots. It seems they have Thornton higher on their depth chart than fans, and Reagor is really the only backup to him from a skill set standpoint. He has special teams value. For the 2024 team, he's a better fit.

My thing is just that the team clearly isn't prioritizing 2024. And while Reagor maybe fits as a depth piece and does have 1st round pedigree, I think I've seen enough to say he'll never be a viable option at WR. Boutte on the other hand... can we predict with certainty that he isn't better than Baker? IDK, maybe I'm overly optimistic but I still see some glimmers of hope that he could be a #4 WR type. At this point, for as much optimism as anyone might have for Polk/Baker/Douglas/Boutte/Thornton, only Douglas has proven anything so it's speculation. I don't love letting Boutte go when he's shown promise at an area that still is a bunch of lottery tickets. That might come at Reagor's expense roster spot wise if they want to keep him, because it appears he's behind the other 4 young guys and then probably Osborn as well because you want someone with a floor on the roster (at least until Bourne is back).

 

[PatsFan2]

Good points. Just to clarify my stance a bit... I think Reagor is better than Boutte if you're talking about as a depth piece for the 2024 Patriots. It seems they have Thornton higher on their depth chart than fans, and Reagor is really the only backup to him from a skill set standpoint. He has special teams value. For the 2024 team, he's a better fit.

My thing is just that the team clearly isn't prioritizing 2024. And while Reagor maybe fits as a depth piece and does have 1st round pedigree, I think I've seen enough to say he'll never be a viable option at WR. Boutte on the other hand... can we predict with certainty that he isn't better than Baker? IDK, maybe I'm overly optimistic but I still see some glimmers of hope that he could be a #4 WR type. At this point, for as much optimism as anyone might have for Polk/Baker/Douglas/Boutte/Thornton, only Douglas has proven anything so it's speculation. I don't love letting Boutte go when he's shown promise at an area that still is a bunch of lottery tickets. That might come at Reagor's expense roster spot wise if they want to keep him, because it appears he's behind the other 4 young guys and then probably Osborn as well because you want someone with a floor on the roster (at least until Bourne is back).

Point taken I will say this even though I like him we made a mistake in resigning Bourne if Tyquan finally gets' it who would you rather have?? It's obvious Tyquan could be that one play threat we haven't had in years. I'm leaning towards Trading Bourne and roll with the rest.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Point taken I will say this even though I like him we made a mistake in resigning Bourne if Tyquan finally gets' it who would you rather have?? It's obvious Tyquan could be that one play threat we haven't had in years. I'm leaning towards Trading Bourne and roll with the rest.

Not sure I see a lot of connection between Bourne and Thornton. Also, not sure I'd call Bourne a mistake. We didn't have any of Polk, Baker, Osborn on the roster at that point. Thornton and Boutte hadn't shown any level of competence yet (and honestly, still haven't to a huge degree). And outside free agents obviously didn't view us attractively. We had to have something in place. I think Bourne was/is a good signing for them in their situation.

That said, I also hope we trade him lol. Or more descriptively, I hope the young guys play well enough to where trading him is something we can realistically consider. I'm really hoping that by the end of the year the 5 young guys all look like NFL WRs (Douglas, Polk, Thornton, Baker, Boutte) to where Bourne and Osborn are no longer needed. And if either has trade value, take it.