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Fear of Maye getting hurt is a dumb reason to not give him snaps

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Yes the OL sucks....but preseason is the time to get him game experience and snaps.
There are only 2 more preseason games. They probably won't play him in final game.

Take the leash off, toughen him up and let him learn. I do not expect him to start at the beginning of the season but stop treating him like he is 4 years old.
I am beginning to think they should not have drafted him if they are so concerned that he will get hurt with a bad OL.

This is going to be a LONG rebuild.
I hope this is not a sign of things to come with Mayo and his staff. I know he is a players coach......but putting your #3 overall pick in a bassinet is not a way to inspire your players to be tough.
 
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I expect Maye to play a lot in the scrimmage with PHI, but less in the game.

I agree with waiting until we have some semblance of an OL before playing him a lot. I don't believe that it is a good idea having him play behind say Lowe and Anderson.

I'm OK with him starting in say Game 4. Give the coaches a bit of time to get our OL functioning. Half the line will be new. Let's give them a bit of time to gel.

I strongly agree that Maye should play a lot this year. I don't think it is a good idea to redshirt him instead of having him get lots and lots of rookie mistakes behind him.
 
Yes the OL sucks....but preseason is the time to get him game experience and snaps.
There are only 2 more preseason games. They probably won't play him in final game.

Take the leash off, toughen him up and let him learn. I do not expect him to start at the beginning of the season but stop treating him like he is 4 years old.
I am beginning to think they should not have drafted him if they are so concerned that he will get hurt with a bad OL.

This is going to be a LONG rebuild.
I hope this is not a sign of things to come with Mayo and his staff. I know he is a players coach......but putting your #3 overall pick in a bassinet is not a way to inspire your players to be tough.
the number of snaps Maye got is an answer to the question - Is he ready?

He's not ready.

If Drake Maye had shown that he was ready in practice/camp, he would have played more.

As you said, this is going to be a loooooong rebuild, No need to rush it in game 1. Mayo is being deliberate with his development - which is a good thing.
 
It is not so much getting hurt as being unable to run plays. If your QB cannot run through his progressions, I'm not sure what he is learning.

All about OL: For all the talk about the Patriots' pursuit of receiver Brandon Aiyuk, and Maye's development, a case could be made that the state of the offensive line is the team's top concern. On Maye's only drive Thursday night, my review had Okorafor responsible for three breakdowns, left guard Sidy Sow one and left tackle Vederian Lowe another. That's partially why Maye faced a third-and-12 and third-and-11 situation. And the depth on the second unit, which was led by a solid performance from rookie right guard Layden Robinson, is also shaky. Until that all gets sorted out, it doesn't seem like an overstatement to say not much else will matter.
 
Mayo is being deliberate with his development - which is a good thing.
Yes. Please remember that Maye regressed his last year at UNC. Lost weapons and leaky OL in the interior. If one studies the tape, he flashes frustration on several occasions.

The situation with the Patriots’ OL is actually worse for Maye than at UNC. Weak OTs but strong in the middle. That lets guys come free off the edge, worst nightmare for a QB. Especially on the blind side.

Ask the Jets about ruining a franchise rookie QB with poor OL play. I still applaud them for drafting Olu Fashanu as their backup LT instead of a QB to wait in the wings.
 
Yes the OL sucks....but preseason is the time to get him game experience and snaps.
There are only 2 more preseason games. They probably won't play him in final game.

Take the leash off, toughen him up and let him learn. I do not expect him to start at the beginning of the season but stop treating him like he is 4 years old.
I am beginning to think they should not have drafted him if they are so concerned that he will get hurt with a bad OL.

This is going to be a LONG rebuild.
I hope this is not a sign of things to come with Mayo and his staff. I know he is a players coach......but putting your #3 overall pick in a bassinet is not a way to inspire your players to be tough.
Given the young QB's rawness in so many aspects of the position, I'm resigned to the possibility Wolf & Co view Maye as a multi-year project the organization will set on a path similar to Jordan Love.
That's all well and good, great in fact, if it works out in the long term, however, the question will remain "Was it the best use of such a premium draft chip to take on a project." Love was the #26 pick, not the 3rd, and this #3 chip could have been utilized not only to bolster a very thin, unremarkable roster for this year but serve as a long-term draft pick annuity as well.

Time will tell.
 
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Given the young QB's rawness in so many aspects of the position, I'm resigned to the possibility Wolf & Co view Maye as a multi-year project the organization will set on a path similar to Jordan Love.
That's all well and good, great in fact, if it works out in the long term, however, the question will remain "Was it the best use of such a premium draft chip to take on a project." Love was the #26 pick, not the 3rd, and this #3 chip could have been utilized not only to bolster a very thin, unremarkable roster for this year but serve as a long-term draft pick annuity as well.

Time will tell.
Great point. Is it realistic to draft a guy #3 and give him the equivalent of a red shirt year? Fans aren’t going to be happy with that.

Just realize we’re in a no-win situation. We’ve got LT troubles. And Okorafor at RT is stinking up the joint with his mental errors.

We are still missing key pieces.

But that’s the price of not trading down and accumulating extra talent. Staying put at #3 means our starting OTs would be backups on most other teams.
 
Was a fear of Jacoby Brissett getting hurt why they played him for a series and pulled him also?

They will ramp up Maye's participation and snaps this week and going forward.

The staff isn't impatient, even if some fans are. Do what's right for the player, to hell with the fans.
 
He should play. And he may(e).

On the flip side, while I agree that JB should start, I’m neither concerned about him getting hurt, nor “if he plays much” in preseason.

It’d be a major bummer if Maye does get hurt, though, as I was quite frustrated that Gonzalez was ascending and then - boom - I could no longer watch his progression.
 
the OL issues are BS. the teams OL men have a lot of NFL starts under their belts.
Maye's footwork under C needs work. with the field conditions, he was going to play mostly under C.
Maye has been the best QB in training camp. no sense having him take a step back. get him tons of reps in the Philly controlled practices, let him get his feet wet under C, and expect to see him for mostly half the Philly game
 
the OL issues are BS. the teams OL men have a lot of NFL starts under their belts.
Maye's footwork under C needs work. with the field conditions, he was going to play mostly under C.
Maye has been the best QB in training camp. no sense having him take a step back. get him tons of reps in the Philly controlled practices, let him get his feet wet under C, and expect to see him for mostly half the Philly game
"All about OL: For all the talk about the Patriots' pursuit of receiver Brandon Aiyuk, and Maye's development, a case could be made that the state of the offensive line is the team's top concern. On Maye's only drive Thursday night, my review had Okorafor responsible for three breakdowns" - Mike Reiss in today's Quick Hits

Lowe was embarrassingly bad... if you don't see the issues at offensive tackle it's a "you" problem. I can't think of a more measured and even keeled reporter than Reiss.
 
Yes the OL sucks....but preseason is the time to get him game experience and snaps.
There are only 2 more preseason games. They probably won't play him in final game.

Take the leash off, toughen him up and let him learn. I do not expect him to start at the beginning of the season but stop treating him like he is 4 years old.
I am beginning to think they should not have drafted him if they are so concerned that he will get hurt with a bad OL.

This is going to be a LONG rebuild.
I hope this is not a sign of things to come with Mayo and his staff. I know he is a players coach......but putting your #3 overall pick in a bassinet is not a way to inspire your players to be tough.

Happy Sunday morning to you as well Sam. Good to see you in such great spirits.
 
Great point. Is it realistic to draft a guy #3 and give him the equivalent of a red shirt year? Fans aren’t going to be happy with that.

Just realize we’re in a no-win situation. We’ve got LT troubles. And Okorafor at RT is stinking up the joint with his mental errors.

We are still missing key pieces.

But that’s the price of not trading down and accumulating extra talent. Staying put at #3 means our starting OTs would be backups on most other teams.

Who cares what the fans want? Their job is to build a contender, not to take fan polls about what they do and don’t like. If that were the case Belichick would have been fired after the 2000 season, and David Terrell would have been drafted over Richard Seymour. This OL couldn’t stop the cheerleaders from getting to the QB, so stabilize the OL and go from there.
 
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CJ Stroud played almost as little as Maye did in his first preseason game last year. I'm willing to wait to see what happens against the Eagles before I start spitting vinegar.
 
Treat him like Edelman's foot - if it goes, it goes. Play him.
 
I'm fine with Maye sitting most of this year. But, that's even more of a reason to play him more in the preseason!
You don't "save" a backup QB from preseason, you play him as much as you can to get his feet wet, make rookie mistakes, get the nerves out, and hopefully gain a bit of confidence in case he does have to go in.

The decision to play Zappe almost 3 Quarters was the stupidest. It gained nothing. Helped no one. Taught neither players or coaches anything about their brand new offense in desperate need of evaluation and preparation.
 
Maye is sitting. Let's accept this and move on.
Given their schedule, you won't see him this season barring an injury to Brissett or in mop up duty.

Maybe if their record is really bad in December, he might get a start or two but that's it.
 
We are still missing key pieces.

But that’s the price of not trading down and accumulating extra talent. Staying put at #3 means our starting OTs would be backups on most other teams.
This is true. I heard JJ McCarthy looks good with the Vikings.
 
How much Maye would actually learn in preseason is questionable.

Most teams dont show their real defensive schemes and play guys trying to make the team before pending roster cut downs.
 
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