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[Wozzy]

For the same reason posters complained over the years that the Pats wouldn’t go after better talent because of “cap reasons”. When you clog up your cap with mid tier players like that, you get missing out on a better player like they just did in Calvin Ridley. Signing Bourne right away to a 3 year deal was beyond stupid.

Calvin Ridley was getting outplayed on his last team by Christian Kirk until he got hurt. If you really want to hurt your team and their cap… sign merely “good” players to top of the market (great) deals.

Bourne is getting 6.5 million annually, 2M less annually than what Meyers and Juju got a year ago. That’s the good value for a solid possession receiver in the NFL.

Money was no object for the Pats this offseason. They didn’t overpay for Ridley because he’s good, very good… but now vastly overpaid. He’s no Julio Jones, but is being paid like he is.

Jakobi and Juju were basically the same player, Juju was coming off surgery and the collaboration didn’t take that into account. Bill wanted to keep homegrown talent that he found and developed, nobody knows your own players better than you… but he was talked out of it.

 

[Wozzy]

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[203Pat]

They nickel and dimed Ridley and they were off by $1M. Bob uses other excuses as to why Ridley rejected their offer. Clearly they didn’t want to use much of that $41M.

Maybe Kraft did cheap out and maybe Ridley just didn't want to be here. Either way no one in the receiver room prevented them from upping the offer a million dollars.

 

[sb1]

I'm reading Claypool might be a surprise cut candidate in Buffalo, he's been an afterthought in camp. If that happens... STB?

 

[rochrist]

They nickel and dimed Ridley and they were off by $1M. Bob uses other excuses as to why Ridley rejected their offer. Clearly they didn’t want to use much of that $41M.

Ridley wasn't coming here. He was using the Pats as leverage. And he isn't remotely worth what he got in the end.

 

[203Pat]

I'm reading Claypool might be a surprise cut candidate in Buffalo, he's been an afterthought in camp. If that happens... STB?

No thanks. His stats have nosedived YoY and he seems like a pain in the ass.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Ridley wasn't coming here. He was using the Pats as leverage. And he isn't remotely worth what he got in the end.

Wolf was right to pass at that price. After seeing the WR depth, it seems as if the team has enough to get through a developmental year. Pay big money for a WR if no one emerges when the QB is in place.

 

[Sicilian]

I'm reading Claypool might be a surprise cut candidate in Buffalo, he's been an afterthought in camp. If that happens... STB?

I'm all set with former Steeler WRs for a while. Seems like when they let a guy go it's for good reason.

 

[captain stone]

"Bill was never a JuJu guy," a source told Callahan. Belichick initially wanted to retain the team's homegrown talent, although he was eventually sold on the concept of Smith-Schuster's ability to gain yards after the catch by other front-office decision-makers, according to Callahan.

NFL notes: Why the Patriots let reliable receiver Jakobi Meyers walk and what went wrong

Days before free agency opened last March, Jakobi Meyers found himself stuck in the NFL’s version of the friend zone. Front-office evaluators viewed the ex-Patriot as good, not great. Solid, but unspectacular. A receiver with a…

www.bostonherald.com

I want names... If it was Elliot, then he Never should've been given the promotion; if it was Al Groh's kid, then he shouldn't even be in the building, nor should Anyone Else on-board with Suck-Suck > Meyers.

 

[captain stone]

Agreed in part, but I'll push back on Meyers/Douglas not playing at the same time. They're both "slot" receivers, but they play a very different kind of game. Douglas is wiggle and YAC, Meyers is reliability and precision route running. I think they could have found a way for both to play, much the same way they found a way for both Edelman and Amendola to contribute together....

I agree; in fact, I believe that All of Meyers, Pop & Doghouse Bourne could've been on the field simultaneously in certain formations...

 

[Sicilian]

I agree; in fact, I believe that All of Meyers, Pop & Doghouse Bourne could've been on the field simultaneously in certain formations...

Agreed. It certainly wouldn't be a group that's breaking any passing records, but they wouldn't be tripping over each other trying to run the same routes or anything.

 

[PatsFan2]

"Bill was never a JuJu guy," a source told Callahan. Belichick initially wanted to retain the team's homegrown talent, although he was eventually sold on the concept of Smith-Schuster's ability to gain yards after the catch by other front-office decision-makers, according to Callahan.

NFL notes: Why the Patriots let reliable receiver Jakobi Meyers walk and what went wrong

Days before free agency opened last March, Jakobi Meyers found himself stuck in the NFL’s version of the friend zone. Front-office evaluators viewed the ex-Patriot as good, not great. Solid, but unspectacular. A receiver with a…

www.bostonherald.com

I don't believe the source BB had the power to resign Him before he hit FA. We might have to cut Juju outright if he looks slower than the rest. Our young WR's are holding their own I like the youth movement.

 

[PatsFan2]

I'm all set with former Steeler WRs for a while. Seems like when they let a guy go it's for good reason.

Yep I trust their evaluations too.

 

[sb1]

Yep I trust their evaluations too.

Except for Blount and I'm glad

 

[Toofy]

I'm all set with former Steeler WRs for a while. Seems like when they let a guy go it's for good reason.

Agreed... Juju, sanu, brown, leveon bell and claypool...

No more Steelers wr or RB retreads. If they let go it must be for a good reason.. stay away as far as possible..

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Except for Blount and I'm glad

It seems that the offense they run is part of their well deserved reputation of finding good receivers. To be fair Plexiglass was pretty good after Pittsburg, even JJSS was pretty good in KC before he got hurt. Most struggle when they get out of the WR friendly system. The Steelers stand out as treating WR like any other position where they are always developing replacements along side the starters and move on when the cost becomes too much. It is a good strategy to avoid paying top of the market prices at a very expensive position.

 

[jeremy2020]

I'm reading Claypool might be a surprise cut candidate in Buffalo, he's been an afterthought in camp. If that happens... STB?

Weren't we making fun of Buffalo WRs just a couple months ago and now you're hoping for a guy they cut?

 

[PatsFan2]

It seems that the offense they run is part of their well deserved reputation of finding good receivers. To be fair Plexiglass was pretty good after Pittsburg, even JJSS was pretty good in KC before he got hurt. Most struggle when they get out of the WR friendly system. The Steelers stand out as treating WR like any other position where they are always developing replacements along side the starters and move on when the cost becomes too much. It is a good strategy to avoid paying top of the market prices at a very expensive position.

The Packers are doing it too.

 

[Zuma]

Claypool has a career 55% catch rate…not good.

 

[captain stone]

The Packers are doing it too.

Yep; I wanted a couple of them here when Bill had the chance to take them... And I also like where they drafted some of their young OLmen too.