Training camp/cuts news from around the league

[captain stone]

Lol

Pep would be like WILSON...! YOU ASS...!

 

[sb1]

Giants waive Patriots legend Nathan Rourke. Apparently got zero reps in camp so far.

 

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[Brandon_Cox]

Good thing we ran this guy off so we could sign a broken down JJSS. Thanks a lot Bill

Raiders Training Camp 2024: Jakobi Meyers performance leads the offense on Day 3

No. 2 receiver is an underrated player on the roster and it is getting noticed by teammates

www.silverandblackpride.com

 

[Wozzy]

Good thing we ran this guy off so we could sign a broken down JJSS. Thanks a lot Bill

Raiders Training Camp 2024: Jakobi Meyers performance leads the offense on Day 3

No. 2 receiver is an underrated player on the roster and it is getting noticed by teammates

www.silverandblackpride.com

"Bill was never a JuJu guy," a source told Callahan. Belichick initially wanted to retain the team's homegrown talent, although he was eventually sold on the concept of Smith-Schuster's ability to gain yards after the catch by other front-office decision-makers, according to Callahan.

NFL notes: Why the Patriots let reliable receiver Jakobi Meyers walk and what went wrong

Days before free agency opened last March, Jakobi Meyers found himself stuck in the NFL’s version of the friend zone. Front-office evaluators viewed the ex-Patriot as good, not great. Solid, but unspectacular. A receiver with a…

www.bostonherald.com

 

[KCSVEN]

"Bill was never a JuJu guy," a source told Callahan. Belichick initially wanted to retain the team's homegrown talent, although he was eventually sold on the concept of Smith-Schuster's ability to gain yards after the catch by other front-office decision-makers, according to Callahan.

All good and wonderful but that's how Bill made decisions, he weighed opinions and then made a final call, how he originally felt, whether true or not, has no bearing on the fact he changed his mind and made the decision.
All that said with it being a bad decision:
Guys never been a 1,000 yard receiver and Douglas in year 1 was just as good as Myers in year 1 with a much worse offense. Replacing Myers with Douglas is what Happened in the end and likely will work out just fine. Myers and Douglas are the same type of receiver, they both wouldn't play at same time.
Would Myers have won them a game or 2 last year and lose out on Drake Maye? Possibly, not sure why we'd want to go back and change that history.
Overall, A bad decision with no real negative outcome. A net positive if it meant the difference between drafting Drake Maye or not.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Overall, A bad decision with no real negative outcome. A net positive if it meant the difference between drafting Drake Maye or not.

Well said.

 

[Gumby]

I marked ha-ha; but ….
Be more funny if it wasn’t so familiar.

 

[Wozzy]

All good and wonderful but that's how Bill made decisions, he weighed opinions and then made a final call, how he originally felt, whether true or not, has no bearing on the fact he changed his mind and made the decision.

Jonathan is the team owner, he has final say on every decision.

 

[sb1]

I marked ha-ha; but ….
Be more funny if it wasn’t so familiar.

Bad throw but to be fair a horrible route run by the guy he was throwing to who probably will be bagging groceries in a month.

 

[Sicilian]

All good and wonderful but that's how Bill made decisions, he weighed opinions and then made a final call, how he originally felt, whether true or not, has no bearing on the fact he changed his mind and made the decision.
All that said with it being a bad decision:
Guys never been a 1,000 yard receiver and Douglas in year 1 was just as good as Myers in year 1 with a much worse offense. Replacing Myers with Douglas is what Happened in the end and likely will work out just fine. Myers and Douglas are the same type of receiver, they both wouldn't play at same time.
Would Myers have won them a game or 2 last year and lose out on Drake Maye? Possibly, not sure why we'd want to go back and change that history.
Overall, A bad decision with no real negative outcome. A net positive if it meant the difference between drafting Drake Maye or not.

Agreed in part, but I'll push back on Meyers/Douglas not playing at the same time. They're both "slot" receivers, but they play a very different kind of game. Douglas is wiggle and YAC, Meyers is reliability and precision route running. I think they could have found a way for both to play, much the same way they found a way for both Edelman and Amendola to contribute together.

That said, it's water under the bridge, and one of the comparisons I've heard made for Polk is that he's a more athletic Jacoby Meyers. So if he can be that guy but a little more from the outside, we may get something similar to that combo anyway.

 

[203Pat]

All good and wonderful but that's how Bill made decisions, he weighed opinions and then made a final call, how he originally felt, whether true or not, has no bearing on the fact he changed his mind and made the decision.
All that said with it being a bad decision:
Guys never been a 1,000 yard receiver and Douglas in year 1 was just as good as Myers in year 1 with a much worse offense. Replacing Myers with Douglas is what Happened in the end and likely will work out just fine. Myers and Douglas are the same type of receiver, they both wouldn't play at same time.
Would Myers have won them a game or 2 last year and lose out on Drake Maye? Possibly, not sure why we'd want to go back and change that history.
Overall, A bad decision with no real negative outcome. A net positive if it meant the difference between drafting Drake Maye or not.

Jakobi was team Mac and Bill got bent out of shape about it and let him walk over an easily matchable amount. Then I was told on here what an upgrade Juju would be by the usual suspects. Bill just couldn't figure out the receiver position.

 

[sb1]

Jakobi was team Mac and Bill got bent out of shape about it and let him walk over an easily matchable amount. Then I was told on here what an upgrade Juju would be by the usual suspects. Bill just couldn't figure out the receiver position.

I was one of those who thought Juju would be an upgrade.

Couldn't have been more wrong.

 

[Wozzy]

When the voices in your head ^ are more “reliable” than a credibly reported source by a beat reporter.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bill was facing a double edged sword - signing either Meyers or Schuster was idiotic.

 

[203Pat]

I was one of those who thought Juju would be an upgrade.

Couldn't have been more wrong.

To be fair, the fact that I hate the guy may have clouded my judgement but he has always been an average receiver to me who had one monster year across from an all world receiver. We are so far removed from that season and Juju has had so many injuries and snaps since I just didn't see him as an upgrade to Jakobi. When the money and age are basically even I don't know why we remove a guy who we know can play here for a guy we hope can play here.

 

[203Pat]

Bill was facing a double edged sword - signing either Meyers or Schuster was idiotic.

Meyers signed for reasonable money for what he is as a player and he was also our only consistent receiver. Why would paying him the same contract he got from Vegas have been "idiotic"?

 

[TheRainMaker]

Meyers signed for reasonable money for what he is as a player and he was also our only consistent receiver. Why would paying him the same contract he got from Vegas have been "idiotic"?

For the same reason posters complained over the years that the Pats wouldn’t go after better talent because of “cap reasons”. When you clog up your cap with mid tier players like that, you get missing out on a better player like they just did in Calvin Ridley. Signing Bourne right away to a 3 year deal was beyond stupid.

 

[203Pat]

For the same reason posters complained over the years that the Pats wouldn’t go after better talent because of “cap reasons”. When you clog up your cap with mid tier players like that, you get missing out on a better player like they just did in Calvin Ridley. Signing Bourne right away to a 3 year deal was beyond stupid.

Bourne didn't hinder them from signing Ridley nor would Meyers have hindered them from signing any other receiver. Bourne is currently taking up 1.27% of the cap. We have $41 million in cap space and Ridley's cap hit for the Titans is $10 million. We had more than enough room.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bourne didn't hinder them from signing Ridley nor would Meyers have hindered them from signing any other receiver. Bourne is currently taking up 1.27% of the cap. We have $41 million in cap space and Ridley's cap hit for the Titans is $10 million. We had more than enough room.

They nickel and dimed Ridley and they were off by $1M. Bob uses other excuses as to why Ridley rejected their offer. Clearly they didn’t want to use much of that $41M.