NFL Owners want a QB Salary Cap

[1960Pats]

Not really... when a decade is considered a really long career, it's not misleading at all.

Every year over a thousand college players throw their hat into the job pool, somewhere around 200-250 players get jobs... most don't make it more than three years. A third of the NFL is made up of UDFA's, which means a whole lot of drafted players don't make it.

Pro football is hard.

Simple.

I'm with the X man on this one. The 3.5 year career stat is misleading because so many players are brought in and treated like hirings but are really only doing job interviews. Many of those thousands of college players you mentioned will end up in that category and will be in and out quickly, dropping the number like a lead balloon.

 

[1960Pats]

The simplest rule would be to have a max percentage of cap would affect all contracts.

Of course, now only QB's would be affected. However, depending on the amount of percentage, the limit could affect the top players in other positions over the next few years. Coonsider the situation if a cap were in the last contract. i suspect that it would now apply to players of several positions. That is why a percentage of cap is the right way to go.

That being said, the other extreme is to how caps by position as is the case for franchise tags. I suspect that this would be proposed by the union but would be much harder to agree upon.
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I suspect that union might consider the simpler rule, even between contracts, since it benefits all but a very few players. Of course, the limit would be set higher than any current contract.

Just so I'm clear on this whole idea. Are we talking about assigning a cap % by position, like a QB could be paid up to 5%, a WR 3% and so on? That might be interesting.

 

[1960Pats]

You know better.

The owners write the checks, the owners are responsible for overpaying anyone. I have zero empathy for the poor poor owners. If their inability to control themselves is an issue then it’s easily resolved. Exempt quarterbacks from the cap. The owners can pay them as much as they want, the other players get more money, and there is no impact against the cap. Problem solved. If the owners don’t like it they can go drown themselves in their champagne fed waterfalls in their living rooms. Poor babies.

The problem is that the rise in costs for the QBs will be passed along to the fans. People are hooked on sports.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Doesn't really make sense. As @Pape said, the teams themselves are making these deals - no one has forced them. So they want to protect themselves from themselves?

In general I think having a "max contract value" makes some level of sense but it shouldn't be tied to QBs only, it should be all players. And it should probably be a figure that adjusts every 3-year-window or something like that to keep up with the cap increasing. However, I think the other side of that coin means that more players (like star WRs, DTs/OLBs, etc) will demand higher deals because more cap money will be available since QBs will be taking up less. So at the end of the day will anything necessarily be gained?

A max value contract seems a sensible as a way to protect them from themselves. I could imagine a hypothetical owner who is sensible (there must be a few, right?) thinking "JFC, that idiot just gave Daniel Jones $40 million bucks. Now I'm going to have to give my so-so guy megabucks to keep up. We need some way to keep those fools in line."

 

[Wozzy]

I'm with the X man on this one. The 3.5 year career stat is misleading because so many players are brought in and treated like hirings but are really only doing job interviews. Many of those thousands of college players you mentioned will end up in that category and will be in and out quickly, dropping the number like a lead balloon.

There’s 32 teams, players get extended looks from multiple teams. 2/3rds of them fail because the NFL is hard.

The stats are the stats. If we simply omit data we decide doesn’t fit our preconceived beliefs then they’re not stats at all.

 

[mgteich]

Just so I'm clear on this whole idea. Are we talking about assigning a cap % by position, like a QB could be paid up to 5%, a WR 3% and so on? That might be interesting.

yes

 

[Huckleberry1]

A max value contract seems a sensible as a way to protect them from themselves. I could imagine a hypothetical owner who is sensible (there must be a few, right?) thinking "JFC, that idiot just gave Daniel Jones $40 million bucks. Now I'm going to have to give my so-so guy megabucks to keep up. We need some way to keep those fools in line."

There should be a cap on how much the owners make. In fact they have already made more than enough. It’s amazing how people believe fully in the owners right to make as many billions as they possibly can, but that they should also be protected from paying individual players what they want to deem “ too much.” If an owner is too stupid to understand how to spend to put the best team on the field then that is their personal problem, and they should pay the competitive price for it.

 

[Real fan 02]

There is no doubt that QB costs are escalating at a dramatic pace...

But really, who is to blame? The owners. They are the only ones making these deals, overpaying for guys...

Players should keep on keeping on...leave it to the front offices to hash it out without making it look like collusion... Good luck with that

Absolutely agree. Your 100% correct. I've said personally it started with Drew Brees a few years ago.. then dak.. so the elites aka NFL owners put them in a conundrum becuase the QB market is what it is and it won't be going down. By the time Drake gets paid he will likely see north of 55 million.

 

[Huckleberry1]

A max value contract seems a sensible as a way to protect them from themselves. I could imagine a hypothetical owner who is sensible (there must be a few, right?) thinking "JFC, that idiot just gave Daniel Jones $40 million bucks. Now I'm going to have to give my so-so guy megabucks to keep up. We need some way to keep those fools in line."

So then a max value value price should be put in place to keep the public from having to overpay for ticket prices, jerseys, concessions etc….

 

[TheRainMaker]

Make contracts guaranteed and watch the salaries level off - there won't be as many mediocre players making FU money. What the NBA does right is that a player has to have certain accomplishments to unlock a value they can receive. This is what the NFL needs to implement. A guy like Owenu should not be making the money he just made. Trey Flowers should not have been given the contract he got in 2019. Now Trevor Lawrence is going to open a can of worms where Dak Prescott will now command $60M per season.