Once Maye Is Ready, Should We Even Carry 3 QB's?

[mgteich]

The emergency #3 QB can now be an elevation from the Practice Squad. A #3 QB plays only if both other active QB's are injured. This player does count as one of the limit of two elevations from the Practice Squad. There are no limits on the use of the #3 QB, so many teams could have their emergency QB on the Practice Squad all year and replace him if someone chose to sign him. This player wouldn't count against the 53-man limit on the roster.

Once Maye is ready, we could CHOOSE to use a roster spot for a 3rd QB, or not.

NFL owners approve change to emergency QB rule

Correction: In the original version of the article, it stated that teams could elevate a quarterback to be the emergency quarterback in addition to the two standard elevations. That was incorrect. A team may elevate a quarterback to be the emergency quarterback as part of…

cardswire.usatoday.com

 

[farn]

The emergency #3 QB can now be an elevation from the Practice Squad. A #3 QB plays only if both other active QB's are injured. This player does count as one of the limit of two elevations from the Practice Squad. There are no limits on the use of the #3 QB, so many teams could have their emergency QB on the Practice Squad all year and replace him if someone chose to sign him. This player wouldn't count against the 53-man limit on the roster.

Once Maye is ready, we could CHOOSE to use a roster spot for a 3rd QB, or not.

NFL owners approve change to emergency QB rule

Correction: In the original version of the article, it stated that teams could elevate a quarterback to be the emergency quarterback in addition to the two standard elevations. That was incorrect. A team may elevate a quarterback to be the emergency quarterback as part of…

cardswire.usatoday.com

As the #3 overall pick, I think being the second option is not only possible, but probable. There are already reports he’s leapfrogged Zappe and is close to outplaying JB.

I’d advocate for Maye to start the year no lower than #2. Things happen. If JB starts and gets injured, bring in a vet at that point to back up Maye.

 

[Triumph]

What if Maye is a Bust?

 

[TheRainMaker]

What if Maye is a Bust?

It will set the franchise back about 5 years.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Where’s Milton in this scenario? PS?

 

[mgteich]

Where’s Milton in this scenario? PS?

If he is judged worth a developmental roster spot, then he is our #3 emergency QB, getting no reps unless both Brissette and Maye are injured. Even if he is #3, we could elevate the emergency #3 from the Practice Squad.

If he is judged not worth a developmental roster spot, then he will be cut and signed to the Practice Squad if he is the best available player for that spot and no one else wants him.

 

[mgteich]

In the end, I think that we will sign a veteran if Brissett is injured, but probably as a backup to Maye, unless Brissett is injured before Game One.

The staff will have a "plan" with regard to when to have Maye as the #1, but my guess is that he is likely to be the #2 from Day One, with Milton or a PS player being the #3 emergency QB (of course, Milton could be that PS player).

 

[PatsFan2]

The emergency #3 QB can now be an elevation from the Practice Squad. A #3 QB plays only if both other active QB's are injured. This player does count as one of the limit of two elevations from the Practice Squad. There are no limits on the use of the #3 QB, so many teams could have their emergency QB on the Practice Squad all year and replace him if someone chose to sign him. This player wouldn't count against the 53-man limit on the roster.

Once Maye is ready, we could CHOOSE to use a roster spot for a 3rd QB, or not.

NFL owners approve change to emergency QB rule

Correction: In the original version of the article, it stated that teams could elevate a quarterback to be the emergency quarterback in addition to the two standard elevations. That was incorrect. A team may elevate a quarterback to be the emergency quarterback as part of…

cardswire.usatoday.com

Guys don't get injured in this League that totally slipped me. Why even carry two QB's we should just roll with Maye alone.

 

[Triumph]

It will set the franchise back about 5 years.

NFL QBs with better resumes are now selling insurance.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Yes. They always need to create depth at QB. They had the best QB room in football when Garrapolo was backing Brady, but Brissett was the one who ended up having to play. And the 3rd QB should always be a project, like Milton, who has big upside, but needs a ton of work to turn into a viable option. There is no more valuable resource in football than quality QB’s, they are always needed, and you can get a great return if you move them.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

If he is judged worth a developmental roster spot, then he is our #3 emergency QB, getting no reps unless both Brissette and Maye are injured. Even if he is #3, we could elevate the emergency #3 from the Practice Squad.

If he is judged not worth a developmental roster spot, then he will be cut and signed to the Practice Squad if he is the best available player for that spot and no one else wants him.

So, unless I misunderstand: JB 1, DM 2, JM 3 (but on PS, not on the 53). If he doesn’t clear waivers, or the Pats decide they don’t want him, or gets signed off the PS, goodbye, Joe! We barely knew you. And BZ is cut. In this scenario, I suppose the Zappinator could end up on the PS if Milton doesn’t land there.

 

[mgteich]

So, unless I misunderstand: JB 1, DM 2, JM 3 (but on PS, not on the 53). If he doesn’t clear waivers, or the Pats decide they don’t want him, or gets signed off the PS, goodbye, Joe! We barely knew you. And BZ is cut. In this scenario, I suppose the Zappinator could end up on the PS if Milton doesn’t land there.

right on JM and DM.

A decision needs to be made on Milton. If he is judged worth a developmental roster spot, then he would be on the 53.

Milton should be the emergency #3. If he is not even ready for that, we could elevate a #3 from the Practice Squad.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

right on JM and DM.

A decision needs to be made on Milton. If he is judged worth a developmental roster spot, then he would be on the 53.

I see now. What you are calling a “developmental roster spot” is really just allocating one of the 53 to a guy who won’t play, barring injuries that take out JB and DM.

With JM, it’s really a simple call: do they want to ensure he can’t be sniped by another team? If so, he has to be on the 53. It’s very possible that another team, bewitched by the same arm that ensnared Wolf, will roll the dice on him.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Milton is absolutely a raw project…but a project I suspect a lot of NFL teams would sign up to take on. Execs and coaches will get starry eyed by his physical traits. Don’t see him clearing waivers.

Plus, is another 53’rd player likely to be more valuable than a QB lottery ticket with legit upside? I don’t see it.

Example: of I’m choosing between Mafi and Milton, I’m taking Milton every time.

 

[mister clyde]

It will set the franchise back about 5 years.

No it will not. If Maye is obviously a bust in year one it will set the team back precisely one year. We will need to get another QB next year, but overall we will be in a better position than we were six months ago because yes we need a QB, but WR and OL should both be better. And yes if Maye is a bust it will be wasted cap space but it's not like the team is in any danger of running out of that.

 

[mgteich]

No it will not. If Maye is obviously a bust in year one it will set the team back precisely one year. We will need to get another QB next year, but overall we will be in a better position than we were six months ago because yes we need a QB, but WR and OL should both be better. And yes if Maye is a bust it will be wasted cap space but it's not like the team is in any danger of running out of that.

Our team is better than last year at virtually every position.

And yes, our OL still needs additions next year.

WHENEVER it is determined that Maye is a bust, we can pay the going price for a free agent QB.

As you say, if Maye is a total bust or cannot play after one year, we will have a greatly improved team (plus next year's additions. We could simply sign a top free agent QB and spread out the compensation over 5-6 years, losing almost nothing. Of course, there are other strategies.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

If you think Maye will only get a year to see if he’s a bust, you may be let down. If he starts the whole year and ****s the bed, he will get another chance…and another. Fairly certain we will be set back 4-5 years if this happens. I don’t get that feeling though.

 

[Gumby]

1. with a 17 game season; IMO 3 roster QBs is a must.
Making your #3 on PS puts you at risk of losing a guy who knows your playbook players etc one week; injury to QB 1-or-2 the next and looking stupid as a result for rest of season.

I don’t have the data; but even w the new red-jersey QB rules (thanks go-to-hell); it feels like there are a lot more QBs going down since the 17-season & Thursday game crap.

2. Yeah; I get your point. It is a POSSIBLE roster mgmt tool to use.
Particularly if you had such a good roster that there are a whole lot of cusp 2d tier players that other teams would grab in a heartbeat.
Also if you get a lot of short term injuries to one position & you need to carry overweight in a grouping; you could underweight QB.
But I don’t see problem A with our roster now. And problem B comes when it comes; maybe never. So I don’t see a need to go this route until /unless the crisis hits.

 

[TheRainMaker]

No it will not. If Maye is obviously a bust in year one it will set the team back precisely one year. We will need to get another QB next year, but overall we will be in a better position than we were six months ago because yes we need a QB, but WR and OL should both be better. And yes if Maye is a bust it will be wasted cap space but it's not like the team is in any danger of running out of that.

Blame whoever you want, but Mac Jones not working out set the team back 3 years until the cord was cut with the new regime. Had they kept him, it would've been at least 4 years. Now it's year 4 since Mac was drafted and the Pats had to use a high draft pick to fix the situation again. They will not give up on Maye after year one if he isn't good. The rare exception is Rosen in Arizona where they landed the #1 pick and hired a new HC that wanted Murray. And even with Murray, the Cards are 28-36 with him at QB and has one playoff appearance since 2019. They just picked 4th again in the draft. So yeah, if the QB isn't a hit, your team is set back 5 years.

Our team is better than last year at virtually every position.

Until they play actually play, they are not. That's like saying the WR position was fixed when they drafted N'Keal Harry or the G position was set when they drafted Cole Strange, Isiah Wynn at LT, etc.

WHENEVER it is determined that Maye is a bust, we can pay the going price for a free agent QB.

We could simply sign a top free agent QB and spread out the compensation over 5-6 years, losing almost nothing.

Franchise QB's don't hit FA. The Pats would be picking from stop gaps.

 

[mgteich]

Blame whoever you want, but Mac Jones not working out set the team back 3 years until the cord was cut with the new regime. Had they kept him, it would've been at least 4 years. Now it's year 4 since Mac was drafted and the Pats had to use a high draft pick to fix the situation again. They will not give up on Maye after year one if he isn't good. The rare exception is Rosen in Arizona where they landed the #1 pick and hired a new HC that wanted Murray. And even with Murray, the Cards are 28-36 with him at QB and has one playoff appearance since 2019. They just picked 4th again in the draft. So yeah, if the QB isn't a hit, your team is set back 5 years.

Until they play actually play, they are not. That's like saying the WR position was fixed when they drafted N'Keal Harry or the G position was set when they drafted Cole Strange, Isiah Wynn at LT, etc.


Franchise QB's don't hit FA. The Pats would be picking from stop gaps.

Until they play, everyone is 0-0.

And yes, our 2023 team was the 3rd worst in the NFL.

To predict that we will be as bad this year is your choice. At very least, the injuries should be many, many fewer.