PATRIOTS NEWS Breer reports Pats are seeing Maye's progress

[Real fan 02]

I am glad you mentioned this in your post
I have really enjoyed listening to McD break down those plays.
I expect him back in the NFL at some point.

I think his HC tenure is over.. he's a excellent OC..

 

[Thelonious]

So it's possible that Maye will start the opener.

To this point, I hope not. I really want to see the O-line come together at least to some degree before he plays. Right now it's still very much wall-to-wall maybes.

 

[Wozzy]

Elite QB's: Herbert, Allen, Mahomes. Healthy Matt Stafford is elite. That's it based on what I saw on tape.

You are either elite or not elite, Burrow is not only not elite but historically, even in college, takes way too many sacks. Cincy O line was ranked 10-17th after looking at various rankings, so they were likely average to better than average.
They had a better record last year with Jake Browning as QB.

This all only matter because Maye will be 1 of the few elites, he is an Allen/Herbert hybrid. If he's going to be Joe Burrow, yeah, then the line needs to be all world.

This is a ridiculous take, Joe Burrow gets hurt for a season and suddenly he's no longer elite?

Absurd... but out of sight out of mind I guess.

 

[Steve102]

Trying hard to not get excited about these reports. It's June 3rd. Let's see how he looks after, say, August 15th at 10pm.

 

[sb1]

This ranking doesn't have Burrow as elite.


Hurts is merely "good" same ranking as Cousins? ehhh

 

[rochrist]

I do. If Drake shows he's on Parr or even slightly better during camp.. I believe mayo starts him. Yes he does have the advantages knowing the offense.. so I expect early on for Brissett to execute while Drake catches up... in camp.

I can't believe that they'll start him before at the very least giving the OL a couple of games to shake out.

 

[Real fan 02]

I can't believe that they'll start him before at the very least giving the OL a couple of games to shake out.

Alot will/can happen between now and week 1.. yeah I know LT is unsettled, we'll know alot more come August.

 

[n1997y]

I can't believe that they'll start him before at the very least giving the OL a couple of games to shake out.

Agreed.

And that sets up an interesting possibility: what happens if the O line is shaky but not quite a hot mess for the first three games, and Brissett is playing like a seasoned pro, staying within himself, using what he has, and winning games because the D is keeping them competitive? Does Maye end up with a redshirt year while we ride Brissett as far as we can? Or is Brisket on a short leash, getting a quick hook after one or two losses?

 

[Real fan 02]

Agreed.

And that sets up an interesting possibility: what happens if the O line is shaky but not quite a hot mess for the first three games, and Brissett is playing like a seasoned pro, staying within himself, using what he has, and winning games because the D is keeping them competitive? Does Maye end up with a redshirt year while we ride Brissett as far as we can? Or is Brisket on a short leash, getting a quick hook after one or two losses?

I believe Brissette was paid to be the starter. What I'm starting to see from reports is that the team didn't forsee Drake acclimating this quickly. Even Curran has mentioned on NBC sports Boston, that the coaches have been Impressed with how quickly he's acclimating. My guess is it would really all depend on camp. It's safe to assume someone is lining up at LT. I'm fine with Brissett starting and keep the boat afloat until maye day is ready.. I'm also fine with *IF* he wins out in camp starting.

 

[The Gr8est]

I believe Brissette was paid to be the starter. What I'm starting to see from reports is that the team didn't forsee Drake acclimating this quickly. Even Curran has mentioned on NBC sports Boston, that the coaches have been Impressed with how quickly he's acclimating. My guess is it would really all depend on camp. It's safe to assume someone is lining up at LT. I'm fine with Brissett starting and keep the boat afloat until maye day is ready.. I'm also fine with *IF* he wins out in camp starting.

Feeling really good about our decision to go with Maye.

Both Williams and Daniels would have left me with an uneasy feeling for different reasons.

With Williams it is his makeup, and for Daniels it is his slight frame.

 

[Real fan 02]

Feeling really good about our decision to go with Maye.

Both Williams and Daniels would have left me with an uneasy feeling for different reasons.

With Williams it is his makeup, and for Daniels it is his slight frame.

Same here. The more I see and hear about him I like. He just feels like an elite QB in the making.. Drake as I mentioned is being paid to play.

 

[Steve102]

I believe Brissette was paid to be the starter. What I'm starting to see from reports is that the team didn't forsee Drake acclimating this quickly. Even Curran has mentioned on NBC sports Boston, that the coaches have been Impressed with how quickly he's acclimating. My guess is it would really all depend on camp. It's safe to assume someone is lining up at LT. I'm fine with Brissett starting and keep the boat afloat until maye day is ready.. I'm also fine with *IF* he wins out in camp starting.

I really want him to sit for a bit, maybe for no other reason than to let the line gel. Let Brissett earn his money.

Feeling really good about our decision to go with Maye.

Both Williams and Daniels would have left me with an uneasy feeling for different reasons.

With Williams it is his makeup, and for Daniels it is his slight frame.

Retweet. I think this kid is going to be pretty good.

 

[Real fan 02]

I really want him to sit for a bit, maybe for no other reason than to let the line gel. Let Brissett earn his money.

Retweet. I think this kid is going to be pretty good.

LOL, I'm with you. It's a confliction.. I want to see maye daye play.. but also want the line to gel... but then again we have 3 months to see how this all comes together. I just have this feeling he's the week 1 starter..

 

[Steve102]

LOL, I'm with you. It's a confliction.. I want to see maye daye play.. but also want the line to gel... but then again we have 3 months to see how this all comes together. I just have this feeling he's the week 1 starter..

I want to see the kid play for 10 years. I am in no rush to get him out there.

 

[Real fan 02]

I want to see the kid play for 10 years. I am in no rush to get him out there.

That's a great career in the NFL 10 years. I've mentioned this here. The kid was paid to play. I believe he wins in camp he'll be starting. It will then become the coaches decisions to play him.

 

[h0c2000]

This ranking doesn't have Burrow as elite.


Hurts is merely "good" same ranking as Cousins? ehhh

Where's Mac? 3 seasons ago if you call Mac's ceiling to be Cousins, some here would proclaim Mac's ceiling is much higher and Cousins sucks. Ahh the gold old days.

 

[KCSVEN]

This is a ridiculous take, Joe Burrow gets hurt for a season and suddenly he's no longer elite?

Absurd... but out of sight out of mind I guess.

IMO he was never elite. I just analyzed the film and that was the conclusion. I don't let emotion come into it, if he shows elite on film, I'd call him elite. I just call them as I analyze them.
What did you get for % of elite and great throws vs NFL starter average? What % of throws to open receivers? There is some subjectivity to it but if you reviewed several games and all his plays, I'd be curious how you came up with him being elite?
Without hours of analysis I'm not sure how you can conclude anything on Burrow?
45% of his throws in 2023 were routine easy throws, NFL average is 34.5%

 

[PScottman]

He also couldn’t overcome consistent pressure

We are defining "overcome" very differently. Burrow is still a successful starting QB who has enabled the rest of the team to have success despite said pressure due to the OL deficiencies.

It appears your definition has something to do with "must win Super Bowl" which to me has nothing to do with the aspect of assessing the risks of throwing Maye out there as the starter this year behind a suspect OL. It's a risk calculus - does he have the mental make up, that Jones obviously did not, to not only survive a poor OL, but consistently move on from broken plays and hard shots and be successful?

Quarterback is as much mental (maybe even more so) as physical, but physical and consistent pain can affect some of them - many permanently. Does this regime assume that risk to their #3 pick in the draft with the historical knowledge that this OL the past two+ years has been one of the worst aspects of the Patriots as a position group? Or do they gather more data on this year's OL (and the rest of the offensive team incl coaching staff) first before assuming that risk?

Just have to wait and see.

 

[Pats2000]

Not to pee in your cheerios, but it's easy to be calm when you know you're not going to be hit. It's obviously positive news. However, we won't know and neither will they, until the game lights turn on and very large humans are trying to hit him very hard.

That seemed to be a trait of his in college too from what I heard

 

[Patsgofor4]

That seemed to be a trait of his in college too from what I heard

That is a trait of almost every QB now and in the past. Did you watch Brady during his last few seasons? He was as tough as they come but even he starting seeing ghosts at times, when he lacked confidence in his OL, and it was not uncommon to witness him turtling even before the pass rushers arrived.

For example, from their 2018 loss at Pitt (the game which convinced Bill and Josh that they had to become a run-first team if they wanted to salvage the season)
Watt is still 5-ish feet from Brady when he starts to go down on his own, fading away from the pressure, leading to an off-balance, inaccurate throw. It is human nature to be less calm when you are under assault.