NEW ARTICLE: New Patriots WR Javon Baker: ‘You ain’t gonna outwork me’

[mgteich]

I expect that Milton and Baker will wow many posters with their pre-season performances against scrubs.

And then, reality will set in. Milton will make the team or not, and #5 WR Baker will be active for Game One, or not.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Can't stand overconfident **** talkers. Always been a pet peeve of mine. Especially from a rookie. Talk **** on the field or whatever, do you. But making statements like this publicly, before you step foot on an NFL practice field, is a big red flag of immaturity and stupidity.

Worked out ok for O’dell, Steve Smith, Randy Moss, and countless other WR. I’m keeping an open mind. WR’s have always been a different animal. They have to have absolutely irrational confidence.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

hes our new AB (the good and normal pittsburg version) lol

 

[vicspats]

Hope this kid ain’t a clown … but it’s trending in that direction. Rookie fourth rounder smh. Make the team first.

 

[TheRainMaker]

What I dread hearing from reporters during training camp when it comes to Patriots drafted WR's:

"He's having trouble picking up the playbook".

We will know very quickly whether he has it or not.

 

[mgteich]

What I dread hearing from reporters during training camp when it comes to Patriots drafted WR's:

"He's having trouble picking up the playbook".

We will know very quickly whether he has it or not.

Perhaps, or perhaps it will take a 2nd year to learn an NFL playbook.

That isn't my concern. I'm fine with a 4th rounder with a high ceiling taking 1 or even 2 years to fully learn the playbook. If he has the talent and continues to improve, I suspect that we would give him 3 years. It is OK for the bottom few roster spots to include developmental players.

I would note that Thornton would have a good chance of staying if he hadn't been injured twice. Even now, he COULD make the 53.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Perhaps, or perhaps it will take a 2nd year to learn an NFL playbook.

That isn't my concern. I'm fine with a 4th rounder with a high ceiling taking 1 or even 2 years to fully learn the playbook. If he has the talent and continues to improve, I suspect that we would give him 3 years. It is OK for the bottom few roster spots to include developmental players.

I would note that Thornton would have a good chance of staying if he hadn't been injured twice. Even now, he COULD make the 53.

I'm bullish on Tyquan in year 3. We don't have anyone else with near his speed, and the QB room is different.

 

[mgteich]

I'm bullish on Tyquan in year 3. We don't have anyone else with near his speed, and the QB room is different.

fair enougjh

We have Thornton for 2 more years on his inexpensive rookie contract. He is indeed working hard in the off-season. I'm all for giving him a chance, even as the #6 WR.

BTW, this is so much a passing league that I wouldn't risk putting a WR on the Practice Squad that we believe can play in the NFL. If not the 53, then the player should be traded.

 

[n1997y]

Perhaps, or perhaps it will take a 2nd year to learn an NFL playbook.

That isn't my concern. I'm fine with a 4th rounder with a high ceiling taking 1 or even 2 years to fully learn the playbook. If he has the talent and continues to improve, I suspect that we would give him 3 years. It is OK for the bottom few roster spots to include developmental players.

I would note that Thornton would have a good chance of staying if he hadn't been injured twice. Even now, he COULD make the 53.

Speaking of Thornton, seems a lot of folks are willing to give him three years despite the only talent shown so far being pure speed, and zero improvement in his first two years.

I'm bullish on Tyquan in year 3. We don't have anyone else with near his speed, and the QB room is different.

As I was just saying…

 

[Sicilian]

Yeah... sometimes this kind of attitude is great for a wide receiver. Other times you get Freddie Mitchell.

I hope he turns out, he seems to have a lot of the tools to be successful. But one game with the pads on is going to tell me more than he ever could with his mouth.

 

[mgcolby]

Worked out ok for O’dell, Steve Smith, Randy Moss, and countless other WR. I’m keeping an open mind. WR’s have always been a different animal. They have to have absolutely irrational confidence.

Don't have any memories of them talking **** like this before they ever walked into the stadium. Even then, it doesn't make it any less ignorant.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

In fairness, social media wasn’t a thing for them. 100% chance they would have.

 

[Steve102]

Worked out ok for O’dell, Steve Smith, Randy Moss, and countless other WR. I’m keeping an open mind. WR’s have always been a different animal. They have to have absolutely irrational confidence.

Bill would have never picked this guy. Everyone *****ed about Bill's lack of WR success, the new regime goes out and takes a clearly anti-Bill type of guy and everyone *****es. Do they want choir boys or someone with some swagger?

 

[jlu52]

Bill would have never picked this guy. Everyone *****ed about Bill's lack of WR success, the new regime goes out and takes a clearly anti-Bill type of guy and everyone *****es. Do they want choir boys or someone with some swagger?

Bryan Cranston is terrific in a role he doesn't even know he's playing. Guy is good,eh?

 

[mgcolby]

In fairness, social media wasn’t a thing for them. 100% chance they would have.

Can't really argue against that either way. Because you are most likely correct. You would also think that their agents would of had a talk with them about what to say and not to say on social media. Obviously the agent can only do so much. However, that IMO goes back to what I've been saying.

Look at the end of the day I hope the kid backs it up. We need good football players. I personally could do without the mouth.

And I'm sure he will have his ass rocked more than once, for the very same reason, by the vets in the secondary during camp.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Can't really argue against that either way. Because you are most likely correct. You would also think that their agents would of had a talk with them about what to say and not to say on social media. Obviously the agent can only do so much. However, that IMO goes back to what I've been saying.

Look at the end of the day I hope the kid backs it up. We need good football players. I personally could do without the mouth.

And I'm sure he will have his ass rocked more than once, for the very same reason, by the vets in the secondary during camp.

I’m at a point, because of Pats WR history, that if a guy produces, I don’t care at all if talks **** on social.

Just win baby.

I will say…culture is different. I coach youth football and they talk more crap than we ever did…it’s like it’s own sport.

 

[mgcolby]

I’m at a point, because of Pats WR history, that if a guy produces, I don’t care at all if talks **** on social.

Just win baby.

I will say…culture is different. I coach youth football and they talk more crap than we ever did…it’s like it’s own sport.

I coached it for 10+ years. I would tell the kids to act like you've been there, it worked for the most part. That was up until around 2015/2016. But I'm sure ****s changed since then.

 

[gobesmug]

10? Try seventeen...

Just keep working on catching the football, and let the results speak for themselves.

Perhaps he is admitting the first 7 WRs taken deserved to be taken ahead of him, but not the next 10?

 

[Sect140]

I’m sure every year coming out of college there are dozens of players that think the same thing, then they get to the NFL, they show up at the gym a half hour earlier than expected and they wonder why there are already so many players working out.

 

[Water Boy]

I believe in Shake n Bake.