Compensation if BB signs elsewhere??..

[RobertWeathers]

If he holds BB to his contract BB is the HC of the Patriots. End of story.

Wrong

Pete Carroll has nothing to do with this. Carroll did not have to accept a different job. If he doesn’t and wants to keep coaching he is free to do so. Seattle would get no comp. from the team he goes to. Carroll decided to essentially retire.

Wrong

You’ve pretty much written that in all of your responses.

Wrong. You are making it up because you can't think anything different.

If he doesn’t fire him he is the patriots HC.

See Pete Carroll. I'm going to keep saying this again and again and again.

You are implying he can control his destiny if he doesn’t keep him as HC.

Wrong. Only under contract

It seems you want to think he can play chicken and pretend to keep him, but hope he tries to dishonor his contract.

Not dishonor but find a legal way of getting out of it.

 

[Ring 6]

LOL. Before today he has/had him under contract

Right, which means his only leverage was keeping him as the HC.
Once he decided not to, he had no leverage at all.

What leverage do you suppose he had?
He doesn’t want him to be his coach and had given him a guaranteed contract. What exactly could he do to him?

 

[Ring 6]

Wrong

Wrong

Wrong. You are making it up because you can't think anything different.

See Pete Carroll. I'm going to keep saying this again and again and again.

I'm not implying. I'm saying it.

Not dishonor but find a legal way of getting out of it.

So let’s see, you think
1) if Kraft keeps belichick, belichick still loses his job
2) Pete Carroll
3) Pete carroll
4) Pete Carroll

Why don’t you explain what you think Pete Carroll has to do with this.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Right, which means his only leverage was keeping him as the HC.
Once he decided not to, he had no leverage at all.

Correct.

What leverage do you suppose he had?

He was under contract

He doesn’t want him to be his coach and had given him a guaranteed contract. What exactly could he do to him?

Not let him out of his deal. Why do you not understand that?

 

[RobertWeathers]

So let’s see, you think
1) if Kraft keeps belichick, belichick still loses his job

?

2) Pete Carroll
3) Pete carroll
4) Pete Carroll

Why don’t you explain what you think Pete Carroll has to do with this.

Carroll is no longer coach. He is a consultant for the Seahawks. Perhaps you were unaware.

 

[Ring 6]

Correct.

He was under contract

Not let him out of his deal. Why do you not understand that?

So belichick remains hc of the patriots. There is no indication he didn’t want that, in fact he said Monday he would give up authority to stay.

 

[Ring 6]

?

Carroll is no longer coach. He is a consultant for the Seahawks. Perhaps you were unaware.

Yes and Pete carrroll can take a HC job anywhere he chooses and Seattle cannot stop him or get comp.

 

[Ring 6]

?

Carroll is no longer coach. He is a consultant for the Seahawks. Perhaps you were unaware.

Not sure what the ? means.

You are saying Kraft can remove bb from his job and still retain his rights.

 

[ahmed]

Right thing to do to let him go wherever he wants.
24 years of working your butt off merits that freedom

Thats because he could not force a trade. You can't trade a coach that does not agree to it. Since Bill wanted to stay Kraft had no leverage.

This is all just PR. How are people just slurping this up without thinking it through?

 

[ahmed]

Correct.

He was under contract

Not let him out of his deal. Why do you not understand that?

Bill wanted to stay lol that is not what leverage is. Kraft wanted him fired.

Leverage with a coach only exists if owner wants to keep them and coach wants to leave. This is the opposite.

 

[ZotZot]

The only reason why the Donks had to give up something for Payton was because NO wanted Sean Payton back and Sean Payton wanted out of that cap hellhole

 

[Ring 6]

The only reason why the Donks had to give up something for Payton was because NO wanted Sean Payton back and Sean Payton wanted out of that cap hellhole

Correct. Payton was contractually obligated to the saints and quit. Denver had to pay comp for the saints to release him from his contract.
Josh McDaniel was fired. He can go coach anywhere he chooses and the raiders get nothing because they terminated his HC contract

 

[NormZauchin]

Bill is going to want to go somewhere where he can win a Superbowl quickly, and he will gladly give up GM duties for the chance to coach another Superbowl.

The obvious best match for him is Dallas.

Can you imagine what Belichick might do with Micah Parsons?

Can you imagine what Jerry Jones might do with Belichick?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Bill wanted to stay lol that is not what leverage is. Kraft wanted him fired.

Bill wanted to stay on his terms.

Leverage with a coach only exists if owner wants to keep them and coach wants to leave. This is the opposite.

Leverage is when you have someone under contract.

There is nothing stopping Bob from hiring a coach and Bill staying home in 2024

 

[RobertWeathers]

So belichick remains hc of the patriots. There is no indication he didn’t want that, in fact he said Monday he would give up authority to stay.

No he didn't.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not sure what the ? means.

Because I don't know what you mean.

You are saying Kraft can remove bb from his job and still retain his rights.

As long as he is under contract. You can tell someone to say away from work but keep them under contract but you must pay them

 

[Ring 6]

No he didn't.

Yes he did. He was asked that question and he said he would consider anything that would be best for the team.

 

[Ring 6]

Because I don't know what you mean.

As long as he is under contract. You can tell someone to say away from work but keep them under contract but you must pay them

In the NFL you cannot take away a HCs HC duties and prevent him from going to another team as HC or get compensation in return.

If you could then Matt Patricia could have been made the lions jock strap washer and be barred from getting a coaching job

If what you created here in your mind were accurate no HC would ever be fired with years left in their contract. They would just be reassigned to lunch server, ballboy or stand over there and do nothing guy, so they would quit and not have to be paid and have comp required from the team they go to.

 

[Ring 6]

Because I don't know what you mean.

You are implying that he can’t remove Belichick from the HC role, but still control his HC rights. He can’t.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yes and Pete carrroll can take a HC job anywhere he chooses and Seattle cannot stop him or get comp.

No hes under contract thru 2024 with a option in 2025.