Steeler D who have the played

[TIMEsteelersfan]

Yeah the Redskins only ranked #1 in Pass Defense this year, not overall.

Believe it or not it's true... not like it matters anyway. The redskins came in with the number one pass D and you guys posted what? 51 on them? This game is clash of titans to some degree... throw out records, and stats come kickoff. Should be a great game to watch.

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

Correct... #1 Pass Defense.

Yeah the Redskins only ranked #1 in Pass Defense this year, not overall.

Well, it looks like I was wrong. Stupid Redskins fans.

 

[Disco Volante]

Well I know it’s true I was agreeing with you.

 

[GameDay]

OKay, I'm not that much interested in the Steelers, but got curious with many threads about their D, I found this number for Steelers fans:

10%: the number of TDs that Steelers D gave up for drives starting on the other side (not including the Miami game). In other words, only 1 in 10 defensive series from the other side of the field will lead to a TD. League average: ~1 in 6= 16.3%, with expected SD ~ 3.3%.

For reference, Pats' D: 16.8%.

This 10% is still good even with opponent strength normalization. It seems that their offensive TOs hurt the Steelers. I leave it to Steelers' fans to check their TO number below.

Bottom line: It is extraordinary. Steelers D is legit. Projected Pats' O TD efficiency: 25-37%, which is ~3-4.5 TD for 12 scoring drives.

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Position on field, drive length, and TO (fum=fumble, Int=INT).
49, 23, Fum
63, 0, Int
84, 6, Fum
4, 2, Int
91, 23, Int
88, 4, Int
68, 13, Int
72, 22, Fum
78, 67, Int
64, 19, Int
87, 0, Int
81, 6, Int
45, -8, Fum
75, 20, Int
89, 7, Fum
66, 16, Fum
94, 10, Int

 

[Deus Irae]

OKay, I'm not that much interested in the Steelers, but got curious with many threads about their D, I found this number for Steelers fans:

10%: the number of TDs that Steelers D gave up for drives starting on the other side (not including the Miami game). In other words, only 1 in 10 defensive series from the other side of the field will lead to a TD. League average: ~1 in 6= 16.3%, with expected SD ~ 3.3%.

For reference, Pats' D: 16.8%.

This 10% is still good even with opponent strength normalization. It seems that their offensive TOs hurt the Steelers. I leave it to Steelers' fans to check their TO number below.

Bottom line: It is extraordinary. Steelers D is legit. Projected Pats' O TD efficiency: 25-37%, which is ~3-4.5 TD for 12 scoring drives.

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Position on field, drive length, and TO (fum=fumble, Int=INT).
49, 23, Fum
63, 0, Int
84, 6, Fum
4, 2, Int
91, 23, Int
88, 4, Int
68, 13, Int
72, 22, Fum
78, 67, Int
64, 19, Int
87, 0, Int
81, 6, Int
45, -8, Fum
75, 20, Int
89, 7, Fum
66, 16, Fum
94, 10, Int

Again, the Steelers have surrendered pretty much the same number of points you would have expected to on an opponent by opponent basis. The Seahawks are a clear exeption to this, and you could also argue the Bengals in a 2 game combo. Just how "legit" this Steelers defense is is something that's still to be seen.

 

[l8nite]

Today's Providence Journal calls out Pittsburgh #1 defense. They reported that the most potent offense they have played was Cleveland who rang up 353 td and 28 pts: 8 of their opponents score less than 21 pt on average. Compare that w/ the Pats who played 5 of the top 10 offenses in the league and not only beat them but kept all but philly from reaching their respected averages. THEY GOT BEAT BY THE JETS: Bring it on!

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29001&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2006&week=REG10

On any given Sunday, Yadda, Yadda, Yadda........ Just saying..............

 

[smokin3000gt]

I'm amazed that the media is entirely missing this point. We can judge NE against the league elite because they've played them. We have no way to judge Pitt since they haven't played anybody.

I also think the media is ignoring the "big game" aspect of things. We've seen NE pull out tough wins in each of the last two games, with the opposing team doing whatever they could to give the game away.

NE has already played four big games this year (five if you include SD): Dallas, Indy, Philly, and Baltimore (the last two games were effectively playoff games the way Philly and Baltimore played). In comparison Pitt hasn't played in a big game in the past two years (and has a rookie coach). Handling big games may be the biggest advantage NE has over the rest of the league.

I love how when steelers beat a team, we hear 'oh, they were soft... '. We had 5TDs agaisnt the ravens before the first half.. but 'thats expected, the ravens suck' but now your comparing the ravems to a playoff game? and the eagles game?

playoffs??
are you kidding me?!
playoffs?!?
-Jim Mora

You really can't talk about another team having a soft schedule when you've got the dolphins twice, bills twice, and the jets twice.. not even mentioning the redskins. Dallas and Indy... Good teams, good games.. All I'm saying is don't through stones if you've played the same teams you are talking about

 

[bradmahn]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29001&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2006&week=REG10

On any given Sunday, Yadda, Yadda, Yadda........ Just saying..............

That game doesn't count because of the rain and field conditions. ::sarcasm:: (Might I add that there is also a huge difference between losing to a 10-6 playoff team and losing to a 3-9, top-five-pick-in-the-draft team).

I love how when steelers beat a team, we hear 'oh, they were soft... '. We had 5TDs agaisnt the ravens before the first half.. but 'thats expected, the ravens suck' but now your comparing the ravems to a playoff game? and the eagles game?

playoffs??
are you kidding me?!
playoffs?!?
-Jim Mora

You really can't talk about another team having a soft schedule when you've got the dolphins twice, bills twice, and the jets twice.. not even mentioning the redskins. Dallas and Indy... Good teams, good games.. All I'm saying is don't through stones if you've played the same teams you are talking about

Indy and Dallas are far better than any team the Steelers have played (to date). The Patriots also have not lost to any of the lousy teams on their schedule. The Patriots schedule is more difficult than the Steelers, and they have a better record than the Steelers. Before you point to glass houses and all that, show me two wins that are as impressive as going into Dallas and Indy and beating those two teams (a combined 21-1 against teams not from New England).

 

[chrisfx811]

I do remember us Pats fans saying similar things about the Colts leading up to 11/4. Their defense did ok against us considering they were missing 2 lb's.

The Steelers have a pretty significant lead in the defensive ypg category, and ppg category.

They are 2.7 ppg better than the #2 team, and 47.8 ypg better than the #2 team.

Conversely, the Pats offense has commanding leads in most offensive categories.

 

[NYCPatsFan]

Given our performance against the Eagles and Ravens - both teams as some point out were/are pretty average teams that haven't done much in terms of offense or defense or ST prior to when we played them - I am least bit bothered about the Steelers' loss to the Jets or their sloppy win over the Fins.

Just as we have excuses for the last two games, so will the Steelers have excuses for their losses.

Past is past and what we face tomorrow is a very good Steelers team intent on breaking our streak again. Remember what Bettis admitted after they broke our longest winning streak? Those players were hellbent on being the team to break that streak (similar to the Eagles/Ravens I guess, except that we should be glad that the bookies didn't motivate them further). So, why wouldn't this game be any different for them? Plus, they need a W over an elite team. So, throw out the stats because the right kind of motivation can inspire any insipid team.

I expect Ben to throw right from the go (against the conventional prediction that they will exploit the Pats 'poor' rush defense) and their D to play more tough and hardhitting than the Ravens, or at least attempt to because the ref's might throw a damper if they go overboard.

I respect them but given Mr. Ward's comments against us earlier and their second-year safety's recent 'guarantee', I have a strong feeling that we will have a resounding W.

 

[smokin3000gt]

Given our performance against the Eagles and Ravens - both teams as some point out were/are pretty average teams that haven't done much in terms of offense or defense or ST prior to when we played them - I am least bit bothered about the Steelers' loss to the Jets or their sloppy win over the Fins.

Just as we have excuses for the last two games, so will the Steelers have excuses for their losses.

Past is past and what we face tomorrow is a very good Steelers team intent on breaking our streak again. Remember what Bettis admitted after they broke our longest winning streak? Those players were hellbent on being the team to break that streak (similar to the Eagles/Ravens I guess, except that we should be glad that the bookies didn't motivate them further). So, why wouldn't this game be any different for them? Plus, they need a W over an elite team. So, throw out the stats because the right kind of motivation can inspire any insipid team.

I expect Ben to throw right from the go (against the conventional prediction that they will exploit the Pats 'poor' rush defense) and their D to play more tough and hardhitting than the Ravens, or at least attempt to because the ref's might throw a damper if they go overboard.

I respect them but given Mr. Ward's comments against us earlier and their second-year safety's recent 'guarantee', I have a strong feeling that we will have a resounding W.

That is the most sense anyone has made here today

 

[njpatsfan]

This is about the 15th thread about this very topic... you'll see how good we are on Sunday, even without our perennial pro bowl safety we're still as good as any other "D" in the league.

You see how inane and repetitive all the vanity threads are on this board when even the TROLLS are sick of them.

R

 

[PATSNUTme]

The best team that the Steelers have beaten this year is the 8-4 Seattle Seahawks. And, they played them at home. They haven't played Indy or Dallas.

The next best team that they have beaten is the 7-5 Browns,twice. The last time they played the Browns really outplayed them and lost by 3.

I respect all teams, but this #1 defense is deceiving considering who they have played. I'm very confident about tomorrows game.

 

[mesoslo]

the game against the ravens, the ravens had both their starting DBs injured so their Defense was quite lacking.

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

I love how when steelers beat a team, we hear 'oh, they were soft... '. We had 5TDs agaisnt the ravens before the first half.. but 'thats expected, the ravens suck' but now your comparing the ravems to a playoff game? and the eagles game?

playoffs??
are you kidding me?!
playoffs?!?
-Jim Mora

You really can't talk about another team having a soft schedule when you've got the dolphins twice, bills twice, and the jets twice.. not even mentioning the redskins. Dallas and Indy... Good teams, good games.. All I'm saying is don't through stones if you've played the same teams you are talking about

I said the games featured playoff intensity, which they did. Teams are playing NE and saying "this is our superbowl." No one is saying that about the Steelers.

As for schedules, NE is playing a #1 schedule and get Indy and SD as opposed to Pitt facing Denver and Jacksonville. NE is facing the best NFC division (East) while Pitt faces the worst (West). While NE gets NYJ and Miami twice the Steelers get them once anyway (and they lost to the Jets!). Pitt's schedule compensates with an extra game vs Cinci and games against SF and StL.

I'm not saying NE has a tough schedule. I'm saying Pitt has one of the weakest schedules in the league. You can only play who's on your schedule but it's silly to ignore this.

 

[chrisfx811]

The next best team that they have beaten is the 7-5 Browns,twice. The last time they played the Browns really outplayed them and lost by 3.

Actually, the Steelers out gained the Browns 401-163 in that game. 22 1st downs to 13 for the Browns. They also had the ball for 38:xx to 21:xx.
Where the Browns had them was in special teams.