Patriots waive Grier. Bill must go.

[thecore762]

It don’t matter at this point. All I want is the top pick of the draft. Or at least top 3 so that we can get Marvin Harrison Jr.

Just keep riding Mac. He won’t be back next year anyways.

 

[Love The Drake]

Marvin Harrison JR at 1 or 2.
trade back up for a QB.

 

[Tunescribe]

This is some weird ****. Why cut him now after keeping him all this time? They just gave him some first team reps last week, now he’s cut? Will they just carry two QBs again? Will they try to sign Grier to the PS and elevate him a few games so he can be active without needing to be the “emergency only” guy? Or will Cunningham be the new 3rd guy? Or will it just be nobody? Seems like they have no plan at all.

I'm not sure this indicates not having a plan if it boils down to roster maneuvering and he's not expected to play anytime soon, being third on the depth chart. IIRC, the Patriots have gone through full seasons with only two quarterbacks. Having a third QB dress as "emergency" option is a new rule this season, not sure if any team actually has needed to go there.

BOB has tried pretty hard all season to find a replacement for Zappe and none have stuck. Apparently those experiments are over for 2023.

 

[signbabybrady]

Outside of Brady, which QB drafted by Bill has become a GOOD NFL starter?

Hmm let's see one went to SB.

 

[PatsFan2]

https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/news/new-england-patriots-cut-quarterback-will-grier-pats-new-york-giants-mac-jones-bailey-zappe

We better hope these Young QB's coming out don't pull a Eli Manning on the Patriots don't Draft me I refuse to play for you I wouldn't blame them. We bothed the QB position this year.

 

[PatsFan2]

Bill's mishandling of the post-Brady qb situation alone argues for his being fired. Getting rid of Grier may well make sense, but if you examine the history of the team's qb's this year, - the utter lack of progress in finding a next qb - you can only conclude that Bill's either lost his cognitive edge or is so poisoned with rage or megalomania that he can no longer do productive work.

Up to now, I have felt sympathy for Bill's situation, but the smirky ******** at press conferences is starting to piss me off: basically he's just saying "**** you" to press, fans, arguably even the owner.

**** you too, Bill.

I haven't watched one of BB's presser post Brady they all suck.

 

[PatsFan2]

This is some weird ****. Why cut him now after keeping him all this time? They just gave him some first team reps last week, now he’s cut? Will they just carry two QBs again? Will they try to sign Grier to the PS and elevate him a few games so he can be active without needing to be the “emergency only” guy? Or will Cunningham be the new 3rd guy? Or will it just be nobody? Seems like they have no plan at all.

They had a guy on the Roster who was better than Both he's called Stiddy. BB's talent evaluation is off the charts the game has passed Father time by. I would take a 5th for BB right now show him the door.

 

[50-yard-line]

Outside of Brady, which QB drafted by Bill has become a GOOD NFL starter?

Why would BB have wasted high draft capital on a QB with Brady at the helm? Even then, Garoppolo, Hoyer, Brissett have all had decent careers, particularly figuring their draft ranking.

There really aren’t a lot of “good” QBs who don’t make it with the team that drafted them.

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

I’m like 99% sure he’d be complete trash but I would have loved to see him get a chance

 

[PatsFan2]

Hmm let's see one went to SB.

Jimmy probably hurt himself after You said that.

 

[borg]

So this year Bill has cut every QB he drafted/signed....except his 1st round talent Corky McNoodle....who he has benched 3 times.

There are dementia patients that make more sense than our septuagenarian Head of ALL Football Operations in NE.

 

[catent]

Outside of Brady, which QB drafted by Bill has become a GOOD NFL starter?

Cassel, Garappolo, Brissett

And it's quite unfair to judge a QB drafted by Belichick during the Brady-era based on their starting resume, given no matter how good they were (or could have been), they almost certainly never would have had the opportunity to start (in New England, at least).

 

[sb1]

So this year Bill has cut every QB he drafted/signed....except his 1st round talent Corky McNoodle....who he has benched 3 times.

There are dementia patients that make more sense than our septuagenarian Head of ALL Football Operations in NE.

7 weeks to go. Then it’s take out the trash time

 

[sb1]

They had a guy on the Roster who was better than Both he's called Stiddy. BB's talent evaluation is off the charts the game has passed Father time by. I would take a 5th for BB right now show him the door.

Stid was not good either. Great arm but decision making as bad as Mac's at least in college and while he was in NE.

Seems to be better now though than he was so who knows.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Bill's always been "different" in how he cuts people (personally, not a big fan of it). Exhibit A: Ross Ventrone, "Ventrone was signed, promoted, or released 21 times by the Patriots during the season, including eight transactions in November 2011." see http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/s...hrough-ross-ventrones-28-career-transactions/

 

[lancerman]

Cassel, Garappolo, Brissett

And it's quite unfair to judge a QB drafted by Belichick during the Brady-era based on their starting resume, given no matter how good they were (or could have been), they almost certainly never would have had the opportunity to start (in New England, at least).

Cassell got a chance to start in 2009 on the Chiefs after he subbed in for Brady in 08. He had one good season over 4 years but aside from that was routinely mediocre having passer ratings on the year in the 60's and 70's and was constantly plagued by injuries. After those 4 years, they basically gave up on him as a starter.

Brissett is viewed around the league as a back up that is competent if your QB goes down, but he's nobodies first choice as a starter. He's 18-30 as a starter and never broke a 90 passer rating despite playing almost exclusively post 2016.

Jimmy G is the only real success story Belichick has beyond Brady. And he's incredibly injury prone. He's only started TWO full seasons since he's been in the league and that includes 7 seasons off the Patriots. He lost his job on the 49'ers because they decided they couldn't trust him to stay healthy and he lost his job on the Raiders after a year.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Cassell got a chance to start in 2009 on the Chiefs after he subbed in for Brady in 08. He had one good season over 4 years but aside from that was routinely mediocre having passer ratings on the year in the 60's and 70's and was constantly plagued by injuries. After those 4 years, they basically gave up on him as a starter.

Brissett is viewed around the league as a back up that is competent if your QB goes down, but he's nobodies first choice as a starter. He's 18-30 as a starter and never broke a 90 passer rating despite playing almost exclusively post 2016.

Jimmy G is the only real success story Belichick has beyond Brady. And he's incredibly injury prone. He's only started TWO full seasons since he's been in the league and that includes 7 seasons off the Patriots. He lost his job on the 49'ers because they decided they couldn't trust him to stay healthy and he lost his job on the Raiders after a year.

dude, what about the semi-legendary Brian "Dr. Evil" Hoyer?

 

[lancerman]

dude, what about the semi-legendary Brian "Dr. Evil" Hoyer.

He's only played more than 6 games in a season twice is 16-25 as a starter and has an 82 career passer rating. Take that for what you will

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Cassell got a chance to start in 2009 on the Chiefs after he subbed in for Brady in 08. He had one good season over 4 years but aside from that was routinely mediocre having passer ratings on the year in the 60's and 70's and was constantly plagued by injuries. After those 4 years, they basically gave up on him as a starter.

That's in part because Pioli brought in a coach who didn't want Cassel as a starter. He made the Pro Bowl in 2010 when they brought in Charlie Weis as his OC, and then HC Todd Haley basically chased Weis off.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Bill's always been "different" in how he cuts people (personally, not a big fan of it). Exhibit A: Ross Ventrone, "Ventrone was signed, promoted, or released 21 times by the Patriots during the season, including eight transactions in November 2011." see http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/s...hrough-ross-ventrones-28-career-transactions/

TBF, they were upfront with Ventrone about this, and he was essentially the 53rd/54th guy on the roster.