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Patriots Pregame Thread 2023 Week 2 OFFICIAL Pre-Game Thread: Patriots vs Dolphins (EDIT: was Phish chatter)

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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That's ridiculous. Come on, seriously? Did Hurts look "light years" ahead of Mac? Hurts literally looked very average in week 1.
Hurts led his team to the Super Bowl and lost a nail biter vs the best QB in the NFL today.
Tua is up and down, and will be shown to have a few duds this season (if he makes it through a whole season) - and one dud might be this week.
Sure would be nice to finally win one vs Tua.
I don't get the Mac hate?! Can't football fans accept that if a guy isn't the GOAT,
Nobody here remotely expects Jones to be Brady. Even his diehard fans here know that deep down Jones could not carry Bradys luggage.

This ridiculous argument is to make Patriots fans expectations appear so unreasonable that Jones actually looks good. Its same pretzel logic reasoning as paying $4.00 per gallon gas and some progressive chimes in with over in Europe they pay $6.50 a gallon. Youre actually in a good spot, but just dont realize it.
he can still be a very serviceable QB and improve to the point of leading a team to wins.
Cant wait.
Can Mac help lead the Pats to wins? He's done it. Not consistently, but the team has been nothing but inconsistent across the board for the last 4 years.
Here we go again. The defense and run game has not been inconsistent.
Let's give this season a chance. And the best chance it has is with Mac at QB.
Tyreek Hill just said your boy Mac was "sorry" That is the same as saying that he sucks in the South.

If Jones has any backbone at all he will light the Dolphins up.
 








If Juju is hobbled this is a major friggin blunder. I so wish we had Meyers on the roster.
 
I think the biggest key to Sunday is the Patriots fixing their running game.

The most underplayed thing about the Eagles game was how the Pats had absolutely no running game whatsoever and the Pats were one dimensional. The Pats had 75 yards rushing at 3.5 YPC. Stevenson had 2.1 YPC.

Against the Dolphins, they can’t get into a shoot out with them. The Pats just don’t have the horses. The Pats need to get the running game going to sustain long, clock eating drives. Plus, RPOs and play-action doesn’t work if defenses don’t fear your running game.

If the Pats can’t mount a decent running game on Sunday. I don’t know if they can win. We saw in the first game last year against the Dolphins, you can shut down Tua for most of the game and they can score on drives with two or three plays if given enough opportunities.
 
I just can't believe we're at such a desperate place with WR's already. I'm just sick of this story every year with the Pats.
Boutte is limited with a hammy. Parker has a bad knee. JSS had a bad knee since last year - and looks like Wiggins (now). TT is a twig.
So, our only healthy guys are Bourne & Pop. Are we going to have to bring up Reagor for this game?
Agree.. please trade for Mike Evans.. don't know why it wasn't already done!!! Parker good WR but oft injured, TT can't stay on the field long enough to be impactful. Boutee and DD feel like they will be players though...




IDK.. then if the team truly felt this way why give juju the contract then.. feels like a bunch of BS to me..

 
I think the biggest key to Sunday is the Patriots fixing their running game.

The most underplayed thing about the Eagles game was how the Pats had absolutely no running game whatsoever and the Pats were one dimensional. The Pats had 75 yards rushing at 3.5 YPC. Stevenson had 2.1 YPC.

Against the Dolphins, they can’t get into a shoot out with them. The Pats just don’t have the horses. The Pats need to get the running game going to sustain long, clock eating drives. Plus, RPOs and play-action doesn’t work if defenses don’t fear your running game.

If the Pats can’t mount a decent running game on Sunday. I don’t know if they can win. We saw in the first game last year against the Dolphins, you can shut down Tua for most of the game and they can score on drives with two or three plays if given enough opportunities.
McDaniel said the Dolphins leaky run D is an issue with technique and fundamentals compared to last season where they were 4th against the run. It’s a new Fangio defense and a new scheme.

Pats would be wise to take advantage and run it down their throats.
 
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I think the biggest key to Sunday is the Patriots fixing their running game.

The most underplayed thing about the Eagles game was how the Pats had absolutely no running game whatsoever and the Pats were one dimensional. The Pats had 75 yards rushing at 3.5 YPC. Stevenson had 2.1 YPC.

Against the Dolphins, they can’t get into a shoot out with them. The Pats just don’t have the horses. The Pats need to get the running game going to sustain long, clock eating drives. Plus, RPOs and play-action doesn’t work if defenses don’t fear your running game.

If the Pats can’t mount a decent running game on Sunday. I don’t know if they can win. We saw in the first game last year against the Dolphins, you can shut down Tua for most of the game and they can score on drives with two or three plays if given enough opportunities.
Patriots agreed!!! Perfectly put. The Dolphins are riding high on confidence. They beat a fraudulent AFC team in the chargers IMO. Hill and Waddle did whatever they wanted to that defense.

Tua is undefeated against BB. Something has to give.. I don't want to be 0-2 heading into NY to face the jets.

Like much times last season we beat ourselves last week more so than anything the eagles did. Mac should have at least Parker back to stretch the outside more than last week. What concerns me is just the chaos with the O line. Guys in and out the line up, no continued continuity. So it's likely going to be a ball control run heavy game plan to set up play action. We have two good TEs that should be able to take advantage of match ups.
 
Then I’d hate to hear what his opinion is of your boy Zappy Smurf.
Hows membership going over at the Corral/Book fan club?
 
I think the biggest key to Sunday is the Patriots fixing their running game.
What a shock.
The most underplayed thing about the Eagles game was how the Pats had absolutely no running game whatsoever and the Pats were one dimensional.
The run game let Jones down again. Might as well include the OL too.
The Pats had 75 yards rushing at 3.5 YPC. Stevenson had 2.1 YPC.
Stevenson was sick, but still suited up and gave it his best.
Against the Dolphins, they can’t get into a shoot out with them. The Pats just don’t have the horses.
Code for lousy WRs and TEs.

Should have got Hopkins.
The Pats need to get the running game going to sustain long, clock eating drives. Plus, RPOs and play-action doesn’t work if defenses don’t fear your running game.
Whats your plan if the NE run game is churning out real estate, but NE still loses?

Back to blaming that there is no # 1 WR?
If the Pats can’t mount a decent running game on Sunday. I don’t know if they can win. We saw in the first game last year against the Dolphins, you can shut down Tua for most of the game and they can score on drives with two or three plays if given enough opportunities.
SD ran the ball great vs Miami and still lost.

Time for you know who to put his big boy pants on and step up. The Pats are at home.
 
Hows membership going over at the Corral/Book fan club?
I wouldn't know.

Hope Zappy Smurf enjoys his next stop in the XFL. That's more his talent level. Imagine actually thinking the smurf should start over Jones lololol
 
What a shock.

The run game let Jones down again. Might as well include the OL too.

Stevenson was sick, but still suited up and gave it his best.

Code for lousy WRs and TEs.

Should have got Hopkins.
After the mid game Hopkins had in week 1 I suspect there would be a lot of hand wringing over signing him if we had done that.
Time for you know who to put his big boy pants on and step up. The Pats are at home.
At least the Pats have a chance which they wouldn't have if the smurf was starting. Having a dozen balls knocked into the turf doesn't cut the mustard in the big leagues. It's adorable though... almost like a kid attempting a 3 with Shaq defending him...
 
My favorite game ever.
That was the last of a great run. Didn't the Pats kickoff team score a TD in that game, or was that the Raiduhs game the week before?

When I see that clip of Craig James it reminds me of the regular season in 85 when he had a long TD against the Bears. I think it was the only time the Pats crossed midfield that entire game. Sadly, it turned out to be a sign of things to come.
 
Man would I love to see that.
We’ll need Onwenu and Strange back.

The offensive line is a walking mash unit, hell most of our other WR’s are hurt… but we’re obsessed on the one healthy one.
 
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