Yet another Brady argument thread

[Ring 6]

We have concluded you make up every scenario you want. You thinking they couldn’t afford 25 mil in 2020 is made up.

What? Look at the cap history. They signed no one in free agency for more than peanuts because they had no cap room. Where do you think 25 mill comes from?

 

[All3Phases]

What? Look at the cap history. They signed no one in free agency for more than peanuts because they had no cap room. Where do you think 25 mill comes from?

They franchised a guard in which they didn’t bring back in 2021. They did that for 0 Reason. That alone was 14$ mil. Again, do you want to explain to me how they ended up in cap jail like you claim? OTC doesn’t agree with you

 

[Ring 6]

Lmao

I wonder if the team offering him incentivized deals the year after he won the MVP impacted contract talks?

They added incentives to his existing contract to give him
an opportunity to make more than he agreed to, and also fit it under the cap.
It was a gift.

 

[All3Phases]

They added incentives to his existing contract to give him
an opportunity to make more than he agreed to, and also fit it under the cap.
It was a gift.

How about offering him a multi year guaranteed deal that he wanted? Rather than renegotiating every year? You know, for the player that Carried you for 2 decades

 

[Ring 6]

They franchised a guard in which they didn’t bring back in 2021. They did that for 0 Reason. That alone was 14$ mil. Again, do you want to explain to me how they ended up in cap jail like you claim? OTC doesn’t agree with you

Does 14 million equal 25 million?

OTC will show you exactly what I said, up until
Opt outs happened, voiding those charges, which happened too late to impact the 2020 season.

 

[Ring 6]

How about offering him a multi year guaranteed deal that he wanted? Rather than renegotiating every year? You know, for the player that Carried you for 2 decades

They gave him a 3 year extension in 2016. NO ONE IN THE NFL was willing to give him more than 2 years in 2020.

 

[All3Phases]

Does 14 million equal 25 million?

No, but Is that a large chunk by eliminating 1 player that had 0 future with you?

OTC will show you exactly what I said, up until
Opt outs happened, voiding those charges, which happened too late to impact the 2020 season.

OTC will tell you there was no reason they should’ve been cap strapped in 2020 because of their mid tier spending throughout the decade previous. Do you agree OTC is a reliable source?

 

[All3Phases]

They gave him a 3 year extension in 2016. NO ONE IN THE NFL was willing to give him more than 2 years in 2020.

Patriots didn’t even want to guarantee him 2, definitely wanted him!

 

[Ring 6]

How about offering him a multi year guaranteed deal that he wanted? Rather than renegotiating every year? You know, for the player that Carried you for 2 decades

So in your mind the team should reward him for his service by paying him for years after he is still able to play at a high level?
Or should the team work out a way to mitigate the risk and the cost?

 

[All3Phases]

So in your mind the team should reward him for his service by paying him for years after he is still able to play at a high level?
Or should the team work out a way to mitigate the risk and the cost?

That’s the teams choice, thanks for agreeing

To them, paying a 43 year old qb wasn’t smart

 

[Ring 6]

No, but Is that a large chunk by eliminating 1 player that had 0 future with you?

OTC will tell you there was no reason they should’ve been cap strapped in 2020 because of their mid tier spending throughout the decade previous. Do you agree OTC is a reliable source?

Haha. So when I said structure the contract 13/37 because that’s what you can fit under the cap (using your idea of letting his best OL
walk) you scoffed because 14 is a large chunk the rest can magically appear?

OTC is a data tracking source.
The Patriots obviously were strapped against the cap. Someone saying other ways would not be a good source because they are wrong. Not sure what should’ve been is supposed to mean. Sounds like they disagree with the roster building process that produced the greatest run of success ever.

 

[Ring 6]

That’s the teams choice, thanks for agreeing

No that’s a teams philosophical options. Whether a player wants to sign wit the team or not is up to the player.

 

[All3Phases]

Haha. So when I said structure the contract 13/37 because that’s what you can fit under the cap (using your idea of letting his best OL
walk) you scoffed because 14 is a large chunk the rest can magically appear?

If they don’t sign thuney, could his $14 mil be allocated elsewhere?

OTC is a data tracking source.
The Patriots obviously were strapped against the cap. Someone saying other ways would not be a good source because they are wrong. Not sure what should’ve been is supposed to mean. Sounds like they disagree with the roster building process that produced the greatest run of success ever.

So you confirm OTC is a reliable source correct?

 

[All3Phases]

No that’s a teams philosophical options. Whether a player wants to sign wit the team or not is up to the player.

Team not extending themselves is their choice. If they wanted a player bad enough they would have

 

[Ring 6]

Patriots didn’t even want to guarantee him 2, definitely wanted him!

Why would there be any need to guarantee the second year?
No one thinks that matters but you.

Guaranteeing a contract changes the cap allocation. I ve explained that to you numerous times. Do you not understand or is it too inconvenient for your agenda

 

[Ring 6]

If they don’t sign thuney, could his $14 mil be allocated elsewhere?

So you confirm OTC is a reliable source correct?

That’s where the 13 came from.

OTC tracks cap numbers reliably. Not sure what kind of source you are referring to. Sounds like you want to tout their opinion. It has no more weight than anyone else’s.

 

[Ring 6]

Team not extending themselves is their choice. If they wanted a player bad enough they would have

Like offering 53 million for 2 years to a guy whose market value is 50.

 

[All3Phases]

That’s where the 13 came from.

OTC tracks cap numbers reliably. Not sure what kind of source you are referring to. Sounds like you want to tout their opinion. It has no more weight than anyone else’s.

So if I told you the founder/creator and runner of OTC disagrees with you, what would you say?

 

[Ring 6]

That’s the teams choice, thanks for agreeing

To them, paying a 43 year old qb wasn’t smart

Paying a 43 year old qb probably isn’t smart but they were willing to. He chose to leave.

 

[All3Phases]

Like offering 53 million for 2 years to a guy whose market value is 50.

Like offering 2/32 for a guy yet only paying him 12 for 1 year