Derek Carr to Jets - Please make it happen.

[RIpats88]

Jets have a really good defense and basically were a QB away from competing. Why do we want them to get one in Care?

The afc east would be a bloodbath.

 

[RIpats88]

This "good QB" achieved 6 wins and 11 losses with a stacked Raiders offense.

Or conversely, McDaniels took a playoff team added talent and coached them down the drain

 

[mgteich]

That's all.

So, you believe that signing Carr wouldn't improve the jets compared to their current options at QB?

 

[Toofy]

Unfortunately this was a VERY good year for the Jets to survive a massive meltdown of the #2 pick in the 2021 draft. Whomever they get from Rodgers, Carr, JG, or even someone like someone like the Saints QB's like Winston or Dalton would be a quantum leap at QB for that Jets team, and give Wilson a couple of years to revive his career. He STILL has a lot of talent. Today the kid is a major ****, but kids sometimes turn into men. It's because of that talent that there will always be teams willing to take a low risk shot at seeing if he can rebuild his career. MIght as well be with the Pats

Getting back to the Jets. Given the report that GB MIGHT be ready to move on, IF Rodgers wants to play next year, the Jets would be his best fit. The only negative being that being in the AFC there are a LOT of really good QB's in every division but the AFCS. Only the 9-8 Jags have legit QB, while the rest of the division will likely have new starters. If all he is looking for is his best chance of winning his division the Panthers might be a good gig for a year or two

BUT if its the best team regardless, then the Jets are an obvious fit.

Falcons md Rodgers would be great . The have cap space and good draft pics and very good young players in London and Pitts.

 

[upstater1]

So, you believe that signing Carr wouldn't improve the jets compared to their current options at QB?

Possibly they could do much better. Carr isn't going to help them as much as, say, Jimmy Garoppolo. Hopefully they'll pay Carr big $$

 

[patfanken]

Another way to look at it:

Da Jete have sucked for a long time. Absolute bottom of the division, year after year suckage. The talent they now have is because they've had great draft position every year for a solid decade or so, including the windfall they got from SEA for drafting that safety they never should have drafted in the first place.

Now would be the time for them to have a true franchise quarterback, ideally one on a rookie contract, one that could carry them deep into the playoffs, one that could make up for the fact that they still have a lot of holes on their OL. The reason I'm glad to see the interest in Derek Carr (the subject of this thread) is IMO he ain't that guy. He's good enough to make you think you have solved the QB problem, but in the end he's simply a middle of the road guy, can't lift the team around him. If he didn't win with Waller and Jacobs and Adams and an experienced offensive coaching staff, he ain't gonna win with da Jete.

So, in my mind the best case scenario is they sign Carr to a huge contract. He's good enough to maybe occasionally show up in the playoffs, but not good enough to make a deep run. In the mean time the Jete have plateau'd and begin their downhill slide. Instead of drafting top 1-5, they're drafting 11 this year and don't have extra picks like they did last year. Carr's huge contract means they can't sign a lot of FAs. Being the Jete they'll probably find an aging vet or two to overpay. The decent talent they acquired shortly ages out or decides to leave. The Jete window that only opened a hair slams shut.

As for Rodgers, he's actually good enough to lift the players around him, but the Jete would have to pay him huge bucks and trade assets to GB to get him to come to the **** show known as the NYC media circus. The Jete OL is bad, so he'll be running for his life. If he comes, it'd just be to cash out. I doubt he lasts two years if he does. Chances are he picks fights with the media and/or team mates and he's one and done. The window could slam shut even faster with Rodgers than with Carr.

Rodgers Still makes the most sense. And as for the OL, the Jets can draft the same OLmen that we hope to get and fix OUR OL.

 

[Triumph]

Why?

Carr is better than Corky Jones and the Jets are close to being legit. That RB of theirs was rearing up the NFL until he landed on IR. The Jets D is good.

They have always lacked a QB and Carr is good enough.

 

[PP2]

Or conversely, McDaniels took a playoff team added talent and coached them down the drain

It is true that McDaniels has yet to coach a team to a winning record.

But Carr has always been an inconsistent and error-prone QB. He's only had two winning seasons.

The argument could be made that if the NFL hadn't kneecapped Jon Gruden and threw him under the bus, he was on his way to turning the team around.

 

[Real fan 02]

Been there, done that myself ?

Been there, done that myself

I saw McDermott was re-signed... see it may not be news breaking ,however he played well enough to earn a new contract.. so at least the team is trying to strengthen the O line.. also another season with slater is only a great thing for the team!

 

[Bill Lee]

Rodgers Still makes the most sense.

Right, which indicates they aren't building a dynasty.

They don't have a young QB they can build around, since it's really low odds that Wilson has a total turnaround.

Their best choices consist of overpaying veterans who either are middle of the pack in talent (Carr) or old and not team friendly (Rodgers).

Once they dedicate the assets to get such players, their window slams shut.

If things work out with Rodgers it *might* give them a deep playoff run, or it might go up in flames.

And as for the OL, the Jets can draft the same OLmen that we hope to get and fix OUR OL.

Indeed. How many teams lament that they need to fix their OL?

We've been good at developing OL talent, kinda bad at retaining it.

 

[Pape]

I saw McDermott was re-signed... see it may not be news breaking ,however he played well enough to earn a new contract.. so at least the team is trying to strengthen the O line.. also another season with slater is only a great thing for the team!

I like both moves. McDermott provides depth that is much needed on the line... Is he the best ? Nah... But a good swing tackle is, well, good to have

Slater is nice to get back. Him being here serves a dual role... First he's still one of the fastest gunners in the league despite often getting doubled teamed and second, with the potential loss of Cody Davis, keeps a veteran presence on special teams while guys like schooler grow into that role...

 

[Real fan 02]

I like both moves. McDermott provides depth that is much needed on the line... Is he the best ? Nah... But a good swing tackle is, well, good to have

Slater is nice to get back. Him being here serves a dual role... First he's still one of the fastest gunners in the league despite often getting doubled teamed and second, with the potential loss of Cody Davis, keeps a veteran presence on special teams while guys like schooler grow into that role...

Well put!! Yes slater is such a phenomenal inspirational and emotional leader.. that's needed ore than ever these days with the influx of young players and FAs we will have.. was Cody Davis injured?? I guess cam achord is getting another shot at coaching ST as well?

Brown needs to decide if football even matters to him anymore... as scar mentioned in his interview with WEEI Greg Hill show.. Brown is a talented player, and can be a dominant lineman when he's kicked in the pants... so we'll see very early with him.. I'm sure we'll have to be grooming the next center as Andrews is getting older and injuries are compling with him..

 

[Crazy World of Troy Brown]

Wonder how many Head Coaches, and OC's had this guy had, since drafted? Sometimes you got to be careful about what you wish for.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

It is true that McDaniels has yet to coach a team to a winning record.

But Carr has always been an inconsistent and error-prone QB. He's only had two winning seasons.

The argument could be made that if the NFL hadn't kneecapped Jon Gruden and threw him under the bus, he was on his way to turning the team around.

I agree that the team was going in the right direction Gruden's last year. I am not sure that it is a reflection on JMD though. It took 4 years for Gruden to get the team in position to compete when the NFL pulled the plug. The players seemed to like the interim coach and did not play for JMD, ironically Carr was the one who called out the rest of the team at the lowest point.

 

[Pape]

that's needed (M)ore than ever these days

Well said.

 

[Real fan 02]

Well said.

Yes, 2022 should be motivation enough to be far better in 2023 regardless of what others are doing in the AFC we need to get back to patriots football!

 

[Real fan 02]

Why?

Carr is better than Corky Jones and the Jets are close to being legit. That RB of theirs was rearing up the NFL until he landed on IR. The Jets D is good.

They have always lacked a QB and Carr is good enough.

Derek Carr crash... has had talented WRs his whole career still a middling QB...

Mac's career will take off under BOB..

 

[Uptown]

 

[patfanken]

This looks like an FBI photo of a meeting of the mob. Am I wrong?

 

[Real fan 02]

Jets have a really good defense and basically were a QB away from competing. Why do we want them to get one in Care?

The afc east would be a bloodbath.

We were an OC away from being back in contention...