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[patsfanfromoversea]

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

As someone who has watched a lot of Michigan football, hard pass on DJ Turner.

If you want a DB from that team, go with Mike Sainristil (has a lot of Jonathan/Marcus Jones in him, former WR who converted to DB).

i wanted max melton, but neither melton nor sainristil are included in their big board..

 

[catent]

As someone who has watched a lot of Michigan football, hard pass on DJ Turner.

If you want a DB from that team, go with Mike Sainristil (has a lot of Jonathan/Marcus Jones in him, former WR who converted to DB).

Here are some highlights. Apparently he is returning to college next season which I find very surprising.

 

[Uptown]

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

 

[DaBruinz]

agreed, i wanted to use this to may start a discussion about how the pats should adress the offense line situation, i don't know which thread suits for this, we may need a 2023 team building thread including draft and Free Agent strategies with players etc.

There have been different threads started about the off-season already on the main board. Here are two of them.

Positions to be fixed in FA/Draft (the fixed poll)

Since the odds are not good for the playoffs. Even though as a fan I will always root for it. Time to see where the improvement is most needed for players. We all know that we need a real OC So let's not hijack the thread for that. I think we need OL a lot mostly OT ones that can hold up in...

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Will BB change OC in the off-season?

We all know BB is incredibly stubborn. However, he also continually preaches doing what's best for the team. Clearly with a team bordering on dysfunctionality, the "Hail Moron", the worst RZ offence in the league do you think he will swallow his pride and change OC? I've no problem with Patricia...

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[patsfanfromoversea]

There have been different threads started about the off-season already on the main board. Here are two of them.

Positions to be fixed in FA/Draft (the fixed poll)

Since the odds are not good for the playoffs. Even though as a fan I will always root for it. Time to see where the improvement is most needed for players. We all know that we need a real OC So let's not hijack the thread for that. I think we need OL a lot mostly OT ones that can hold up in...

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Thanks I have forgotten about the first one[/url]

 

[DaBruinz]

Thanks I have forgotten about the first one[/url]

Welcome. I can understand forgetting about them. Especially when they disappear from the 1st page.

 

[Uptown]

 

[Uptown]

Not NFL related, but incredible nonetheless:

 

[Uptown]

I’d love to have DET’s OC Ben Johnson. Young guy. Excellent concepts.

 

[Uptown]

If Justin Jefferson stays healthy in O’Connell’s system, he’ll certainly be the youngest/fastest player to reach receiving 10,000 yards. Damn near 5,000 yards in 3 seasons. Incredible.

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[BaconGrundleCandy]

If Justin Jefferson stays healthy in O’Connell’s system, he’ll certainly be the youngest/fastest player to reach receiving 10,000 yards. Damn near 5,000 yards in 3 seasons. Incredible.

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Checkout the latest stats for Justin Jefferson. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.

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Jefferson is on a HOF path.

As great as he is the targets can't be overlooked. 125, 167, 179 for JJ. Compared to 124, 137, 129 for Moss. Who didn't see 154 until his 4th year. Plus the extra game.

I think top tier guys would dominant in any era but this offensive explosion of late is crazy.

I'd be ringing them once a week. They're not letting him go after Randy but you can still throw two 1st and 5th at them as a starting offer. Pray Thornton becomes a real deep threat and you have something real.

 

[upstater1]

What a loon!!!

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

 

[captain stone]

Patriots pass protection stats: Michael Onwenu finally allows a sack

Michael Onwenu has been fantastic. On Sunday, he allowed his first sack of the season.

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I don’t think Onwenu’s been “fantastic’ this season by any means.
He’s still been our best & most consistent OLman, but this season that ain’t sayin’ much.

yeah i don't see a replacement on the team rn either, maybe JJ, i think except poyer or bates i don't see a free agent replacement either

One thing to keep in mind regarding Jonathan Jones: he’s gonna wanna be paid as a CB and not as a Safety, although I also think he could successfully transition there… I had high hopes for Shaun Wade this season, but it doesn’t look like it’s gonna work here as a CB, but what about at FS?

 

[Uptown]

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Pray he gets traded to NE

 

[DaBruinz]

Pray he gets traded to NE

I think that NE would be the last place he'd want to go. Having to face the Bills TWICE a season. Especially after what happened.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

So recently I've posted a few times about getting a trading for a WR. Specifically one that's under-targeted but producing. Tee Higgins, for example. Basically 1K/5 TD/14 per rec with 110 targets or less - coming into this year.

Mac hasn't really shown he can elevate average WR's - not taking a shot at him. It is what it is. Until he does, he hasn't but why make things as hard as possible for the guy. We know who he is. Let's do the right thing and get him some help. Yes we all know the OL is priority #1 but we have to handle multiple things at the same time.

Having a true WR1 isn't a ticket to the SB but it's important in today's game, no?

KC - Kelce (yes he's not "technically" a WR lol)
Bills - Diggs
Miami - Hill
LAR - Kupp
Dallas - Lamb
Vegas - Adams
Cinci --Chase
Vikings - Jefferson
Rams - Kupp
Detroit - St Brown
SF - Deebo
Seattle - DK
Arizona - Hop
TB - Evans
Phila - Brown

Now look all these stars aren't the sole reason their teams are successful or offenses are near the tops in the league but I don't think it's a coincidence either. Sure Chase has Higgins and Boyd and others. Hill has Waddle. Brown has Smith. Theres Burrow, Herbert, Allen, Mahomes etc.

Many are saying collecting talent isn't a bad thing!!

So there's what 15 teams above?

10 are top 10-12 in scoring, passing yards and total yards I believe.

We have a bunch of capable WR2 and WR3 but have been sorely lacking a stud since Gronk left. I can't help but come back to this as I'm doing again but a further look at some of the #'s and impact we see on the field and I think it's safe to say they matter.

It would be nice to see Kobi back with Bourne + a real WR1 to keep that stability and make make the transition smooth.

At 14 I'm probably leaning CB over OT/WR rn. Very early but not a lot will change there.

I love Jon Jones, had a 3rd on him while he went undrafted but there's an argument to be made we could use some size on the boundary. Especially if Jones leaves. Jack's play strength is lacking and his size is what it is so again there's a real argument to be made there imo. I'd be on the phone with Denver asking about Surtain and Jeudy.

TE is a mess, anyone you bring in has to block lol. It's been a ****tshow. I don't want to hear about Smith anymore. You legit need to scheme and lay the ball up to him for an impact. Henry is a vg rec TE but we're lacking a true blocking and rec threat. Fortunately the TE position is stacked in the draft. I want no part of Mayer at 14. Like the player but he's not moving the needle on this offense. Upgrade in blocking although his technique needs a lot of work but I don't like the value at 14. No way not with the position we're in. Go get LaPorta (Iowa!), Darnell Washington, Dalton Kincaid, Daniel Barker, Brenton Strange, Luke Lachey (Iowa!), Zack Kuntz or Joel Wilson in RDS 2-5

OL has to be addressed though bc while we're lacking starters our depth really betrayed us this year. Ending the 1st quarter of the season is when it started to fall apart and once a few guys went down, weren't available it went to **** quick. We absolutely have to stabilize this unit. It really doesn't matter who's calling plays when your line is ****. Like a lot of this team we have pieces in place but some real work ahead of us to field a playoff type unit there.
Depth inside and 2 starters if Trent leaves plus a swing isn't an ideal task in one offseason but it's what we're faced with.

This happend. Lots of fun this year watching is unit piss on itself game after game. No doubt cost us two games. This has to drive Bill nuts!


So far Mac has been an average QB but there's no doubt this year was too much for him. Unless there's a clear upgrade he's getting a year 3 and hopes he has a ton of help. Anthony Richardson is an intriguing project to sit a year as competition. I mean it's worth a conversation considering we're at 14. Higher than when we got Mac. Highest pick in a long time so there will be opportunities and all options should be on the table.

I'm tired and falling asleep to Reservoir Dogs (youre gonna be ok lol - classic) but then you have FS, Kicker and OC.

We'll have a ton a of money and picks though. So we have some serious flexibility. The problems won't be easy to fix but they're not hard to figure out. Bill has always to see the same issues everyone else sees. We saw the recent efforts at WR & TE so we know he can see a problem and address it. Hopefully better results this time.

"Is it bad??" "As opposed to good!"

Go Pats !!!