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Fields will be no Wilson. Who, yeah, won a SB because his defense.
That said, I think we can all acknowledge that Mac isn’t playing well this year.
I say go no huddle, hurry up offense at least 3-5 drives a game
 
That's what this board does.

*****ing about Mac, *****ing about playcalling. *****ing about Zach's 350yds even though the threw 3 picks and comp less than 50% of his passes.

Won a divisional game on the road and back to .500 after a **** MNF disaster.

Insufferable.
Somehow I can't picture Belichick leaning back in his easy chair tonight, smoking a cigar while basking his mind in the accomplishments of his 4-4 team.

Well... maybe after passing Halas, but the point remains.
 
Fields will be no Wilson. Who, yeah, won a SB because his defense.
That said, I think we can all acknowledge that Mac isn’t playing well this year.
I say go no huddle, hurry up offense at least 3-5 drives a game
Mac isn't but it's his second year and he was hurt for 3 games. Josh Allen wasn't Josh Allen his first couple of years either, they have to give Mac some time to mature, he may not be the answer and maybe Zappe is, maybe neither are but you have to give him time. We're in a rebuild year, rebuilds aren't linear.
 
Somehow I can't picture Belichick leaning back in his easy chair tonight, smoking a cigar while basking his mind in the accomplishments of his 4-4 team.

Well... maybe after passing Halas, but the point remains.
Seeing teams Turn to Ehlinger, Heineke is very much the kind of player Zappe is.
Those quick release smaller read the defense make smart play QBs are starting to get noticed.
Both Ehlinger and Heinke have a arm but the argument to supplant Jones is valid.
 
Somehow I can't picture Belichick leaning back in his easy chair tonight, smoking a cigar while basking his mind in the accomplishments of his 4-4 team.

Well... maybe after passing Halas, but the point remains.
I'd be surprised if he did that AFTER he retires.
 
Sorry, Man. That just isn't what happened on that play. At all.

Henry only turned up field after he gets to the sideline and he never once engages anyone to block.

It's an RPO. Mac missed Henry who was open for the first down. Mac had Henry looking RIGHT AT HIM waiting for the pass that never came.
We disagree. Mac tucked it. He was going to run. He was not looking to throw initially. Until he saw the spy. I agree it's an RPO. But it's badly designed.

Even if Henry is looking for a pass here, the timing is wildly bad. He's looking for a throw BEFORE Mac has even turned to make the decision to run or not. Why is Henry in the same space as Meyers?

I put this 100% on Patricia. You have to let the run play out first since it's the easiest way to get a yard.
 
I couldn't find his numbers out of play action. But they can't be great if they are running it so little. Especially with the advantage it gives the offense.

You are talking about a rookie with 1/2 of bad play against a Bears team that came prepared. Zappe has played better than Mac in every game.

Mac isn't doing a lot of things well since the Colts game from last season. Just look at thr results, he has over double INT to TD's. Zappe is running the offensive concepts much more efficiently than Mac even with the 1/2 against the Bears where he fell apart. But rookies are going to have rookie games sometimes.

So you have no idea how Jones does in play action, but you know he sucks at it. Just admit you are just using your biases to project what you think as fact.

No one knows why Patricia isn’t using play action with Jones. He hasn’t used it very much with Jones all year. So it isn‘t like they used it a lot and Jones failed at it.

But let’s go with Zappe is the better QB and Belichick would rather play the QB who gives him the better chance to lose because Belichick believes in fairness and gives Jones the start because it would be embarrassing for a first round pick to be benched for a fourth rounder.

Teams haven’t developed a book on Zappe. Once they do, they will game plan specifically for him if he ever starts again. Once they do, Zappe could be completely exposed as he was in the second half last week. People are putting way too much stock on a very small sample size for Zappe against mediocre defenses.
 
He wont.

The Refs saved him on the Pic 6 today. Jones cannot throw into tight windows.
It was the right call the refs made.
 
Wouldn't call RTP questionable.
If you so much as breath on a QB that becomes a roughing the passer penalty. That's what was called today.



Tackling QBs has been reduced to Touch football. That was barely a love tap @:55 mark. I'll take it even though it was unjustified because it helped us win. But that doesn't change the fact that Mac Jones made a HORRIBLE decision and throw that was only saved by the referees throwing the yellow flag there.
 
Well, I mean, if we're talking about almost, we can also say he almost had zero interceptions today. But yes, he could have had 3, or anywhere between 0 and 3.

He had two interceptions today and it continues to be worrisome how he's reading the field
 
It was the right call the refs made.
I have seen way worse not called.

BB might have pulled the plug on Jones if that on stood. What is so alarming is that its not IF Jones will throw an INT. Its when.
 
He had two interceptions today and it continues to be worrisome how he's reading the field
Wiped out interceptions don't count as interceptions.

Why are we doing this?

I accept it could've been 3. But it also easily could've been 0.
 
If you so much as breath on a QB that becomes a roughing the passer penalty. That's what was called today.



Tackling QBs has been reduced to Touch football. That was barely a love tap @:55 mark. I'll take it even though it was unjustified because it helped us win. But that doesn't change the fact that Mac Jones made a HORRIBLE decision and throw that was only saved by the referees throwing the yellow flag there.


He hit Jones well after he got rid of the ball. That was a penalty 20 years ago. You can’t hit a QB after he has thrown the ball. That has always been the rule. And launching at a QB has been a penalty for a long while.

And the INT was a miscommunication between Jones and Meyers on an option route. Although I am inclined to blame Jones for it, it could have been Meyers fault.
 
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It's not even tight windows... It's bad decisions
By the time Jones reacts to open receivers its too late.

His throws are slow to get there and DBs are waiting on him. The NFL knows what Jones is. They watch the tape and see the lack of arm strength.
 
I have seen way worse not called.

BB might have pulled the plug on Jones if that on stood. What is so alarming is that its not IF Jones will throw an INT. Its when.
Yeah his int rate is bad
 
If you so much as breath on a QB that becomes a roughing the passer penalty. That's what was called today.



Tackling QBs has been reduced to Touch football. That was barely a love tap @:55 mark. I'll take it even though it was unjustified because it helped us win. But that doesn't change the fact that Mac Jones made a HORRIBLE decision and throw that was only saved by the referees throwing the yellow flag there.


I see that as a clear penalty.

I don't think he launched. He wasn't late. He didn't hit him really really hard. But he saw the ball was away and he elected to go high. You can't see it from the back angle but Mac's helmet snapped forward. He was hit on the back of the neck and the helmets connected.

That's a clear penalty.
 
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