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Report: Brady and Gisele are Divorcing

This is a perfect example of a pernicious post that contributes to the sh*tty Brady-BB subculture here.

I don’t know the details of BB’s first marriage and if he actually was unfaithful. It’s possible he handled it poorly, maybe not. I’m not sure. It’s also completely and utterly irrelevant to this matter involving Brady-Bundchen, or the post you were replying to.

You’re a better poster than this, I think.
There was plenty of evidence that Bill was unfaithful and I linked an article. At least you acknowledge that if that was the case you won't argue that he handled it poorly. I was challenging the usual suspects that constantly look for anything from an interception, his diet to his investments to whatever they can dream up to be outraged about regarding him. I wanted to see if any of them had the honesty to hold the same standard. They didn't. They simply avoided dealing with it. But I agree one doesn't have anything to do with the other's marriage problems.
 
There has been a lot of criticism over Brady's decision in this thread (peppered with the occasional silly comment about how "it's only a game") but it is this single minded determination and commitment to football which has made Brady the Greatest of all Time.

It's possible to be the greatest at what one does and still have a family life.
 
I’ve heard this as well. The theory is that Leo dates these women below 25 because they aren’t looking for marriage and kids. Rumor is he dumped one of these women on her 25th birthday.
whuh whuh huh whuhhhhhh.....??!??!??

25 year old single women are not looking for marriage and kids? Where do you live and how soon can I move there?
 
It's possible to be the greatest at what one does and still have a family life.

OFC, if what one is greatest at is family life.

 
There has been a lot of criticism over Brady's decision in this thread (peppered with the occasional silly comment about how "it's only a game") but it is this single minded determination and commitment to football which has made Brady the Greatest of all Time.
It seems they had agreements in place over the years where she would sacrifice her career and take the lead on the family side while he pursued his football career, but it seems he took it a step too far by agreeing with her to retire then unilaterally deciding to un-retire.
 
whuh whuh huh whuhhhhhh.....??!??!??

25 year old single women are not looking for marriage and kids? Where do you live and how soon can I move there?

Don't bother, you'll strike out same as everywhere else you've tried.
 
It seems they had agreements in place over the years where she would sacrifice her career and take the lead on the family side while he pursued his football career, but it seems he took it a step too far by agreeing with her to retire then unilaterally deciding to un-retire.
It all depends on which reports you believe. There are plenty of reports that these issues preceded his decision to unretire. I am still sticking to my theory that during his brief retirement, it became clear the marriage was unsalvageable so he said screw it, I may as well keep playing.
 
Happy is the key word.

Plus, the divorce laws are skewed towards women. Hire the wrong Attorney and you will be living in a van down by the river.
I have a theory about the high rate of divorce and it's not about the lawyers as much as it is each other.
 
Give it another two seasons of Patriot mediocrity where we’re stuck in a Ryan Tannehill “he’s ok but not great...do we risk dumping him?” situation with Mac and the anti-Brady trolls are gonna go full Damnatio memoriae about Brady and tell tales of how the Patriots won 6 Super Bowls with 6 different starting QBs.
We have so many great SB memories from the Brady years that we'll be fine.
 
Meanwhile...as Mick from "Rocky" says. Women weaken legs...


 
Meanwhile...as Mick from "Rocky" says. Women weaken legs...


I can't remember what player or coach told this story but he was saying how they'd pay hookers to visit their opponents hotel the night before a game. The "no sex before the game" was a real thing. The myth that it could effect performance the next day has been debunked but Tom Brady takes everything to the extreme.
 
I have a theory about the high rate of divorce and it's not about the lawyers as much as it is each other.
I am not implying that Lawyers are causing divorces.

The Lawyers come in to focus after the marriage is technically over. Most times the guy is moving out of his house and taking everything that fits inside a Hefty trash bag with him.
 
I can't remember what player or coach told this story but he was saying how they'd pay hookers to visit their opponents hotel the night before a game. The "no sex before the game" was a real thing. The myth that it could effect performance the next day has been debunked but Tom Brady takes everything to the extreme.
It was Lawrence Taylor. Not sure if it's true or not but he said it.
 
It all depends on which reports you believe. There are plenty of reports that these issues preceded his decision to unretire. I am still sticking to my theory that during his brief retirement, it became clear the marriage was unsalvageable so he said screw it, I may as well keep playing.
I guess you are believing what you want to believe, because we now have multiple reports saying Tom is the one who is hurt and is trying to salvage the marriage while she's the one saying "screw it".
 
I guess you are believing what you want to believe, because we now have multiple reports saying Tom is the one who is hurt and is trying to salvage the marriage while she's the one saying "screw it".
I tend to agree with XLIX but it's the sequence of how things went that might mean it could be both of them.

Here is a pot'l timeline.
  1. Gisele had issues with Tom festering for some time (Maybe Tom had issues with her and she didn't resolve them. In a divorce it's rarely one-sided. Who knows)
  2. Tom did not resolve them to Gisele's satisfaction (or she didn't resolve her issues)
  3. Tom decided to retire at the end of 2022 thinking that would save his marriage
  4. Tom then learns more about his issues/her issues and determines playing football is not the root cause
  5. Gisele disagrees with Tom and pushes for a divorce
  6. Tom is shocked, astonished and hurt by her abruptness in pushing for the divorce (note: Tom may be completely oblivious to how in bad of shape his marriage actually was)
 
I think we're in Occam's Razor territory: you're relying on multiple unsubstantiated theories to make your case, whereas the obvious one is right there for the taking.

In particular at (4) you're relying on undocumented, unnamed issues rather than going with what I've documented via linked articles as Tom unilaterally going back on his word to retire which does follow the pattern of him putting football ahead of family, something she has been quoted as a concern of hers going back to 2020.

Of course the links are gossip but still they are not being contradicted and we know both sides have plenty of ways to get things out via the media.
 
I think we're in Occam's Razor territory: you're relying on multiple unsubstantiated theories to make your case, whereas the obvious one is right there for the taking.

In particular at (4) you're relying on undocumented, unnamed issues rather than going with what I've documented via linked articles as Tom unilaterally going back on his word to retire which does follow the pattern of him putting football ahead of family, something she has been quoted as a concern of hers going back to 2020.

Of course the links are gossip but still they are not being contradicted and we know both sides have plenty of ways to get things out via the media.
Yes. He did say that. I don't think there isn't a dispute over that.

What there is a dispute over is a) believing Tom retiring/un-retiring from football in 2022 as the root-cause for the divorce and b) believing Tom playing football after ~2020 is the root-case for a marriage sliding into dysfunction.
 
Yes. He did say that. I don't think there isn't a dispute over that.

What there is a dispute over is a) believing Tom retiring/un-retiring from football in 2022 as the root-cause for the divorce and b) believing Tom playing football after ~2020 is the root-case for a marriage sliding into dysfunction.
The way I see it, breaking the promise to retire is more than enough to cause a marriage with some tensions in it to become unsustainable from her point of view, and her reported actions justify that stance. Whether or not he already decided the marriage was unsustainable before that point is an unknown, but as above I think his current remorseful actions suggest otherwise. Of course, it could be a show and he's quietly glad to be out of the marriage with her being seen as the aggressor. No one knows for sure.

In my own opinion and without any evidence I feel he figured he could break his promise and she would grudgingly take the L and eventually forgive him for it, but it seems he miscalculated. The current remorseful actions support that notion, IMO. Or, of course, he knew that would be the straw to break the camel's back and he's OK with the marriage ending. No one knows for sure.
 
I buy the notion that Tom wants Giselle back and is trying to salvage things; he looks genuinely depressed and downtrodden, and has for basically the entire season. Still playing good football, but he does not look well.
 
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