Did Maroney get benched last night?

[Remix 6]

The pats have the fifth best rushing attack in the NFL? The pats would run the ball just as much if they had a guy like Addai. The difference is when Addai touched the rock there would be better results.

I know how bad you want LoMo to bust out. I feel the same way. I am concerned about his field vision. It seems poor. If that is the case he is toast.

maybe Addai would get more yards because hes a different style back but i wouldnt expect 20 carries/game

 

[onegameatatime]

Pats are 5th in yards per game rushing.

They play a multi-back offense with the old-fashioned classic third down back who does it all.

The Pats are undefeated.

So WHY WHY WHY the endless threads (this one 21 pages or so now) dedicated to "Maroney is a bust"?

 

[danny88]

maybe Addai would get more yards because hes a different style back but i wouldnt expect 20 carries/game

Man oh man can you imagine the 2004 dillon on this team?

 

[danny88]

Pats are 5th in yards per game rushing.

They play a multi-back offense with the old-fashioned classic third down back who does it all.

The Pats are undefeated.

So WHY WHY WHY the endless threads (this one 21 pages or so now) dedicated to "Maroney is a bust"?

Because this is a football forum to discuss the patriots. Not the lets start 1000000 threads about how awesome we are.

Maroney is the weakest link on the O.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

I agree. You can talk about all the ypc stats you want. When I watched Sammy run I saw a back who exploded through the hole to get positive yards. He looked great. Sammy looked much better in there then Maroney.

He looked great. Man I wish Sammy was healthy.

Yup. Me too. I just love that type of runner. Give him the ball and he just runs it right up in there and moves the pile. How many times did we see Morris get the better of the tackler and push him for another yard or two. All the time. That's why I loved Dillon in 2004. He always got the best of the collission. I just don't like LoMo's running style. He just never seems to get the best of any tacklers and is always cutting back. Other than the Cincinnati game last year(A lifetime ago it seems), I just haven't seen anything from this guy. I wonder if he really wants to be GREAT? I mean, he doesn't even run with an attitude. Look at Marion Barber. That guy runs with an attitude! Love that guy. I think Maroney is soft.

 

[danny88]

Yup. Me too. I just love that type of runner. Give him the ball and he just runs it right up in there and moves the pile. How many times did we see Morris get the better of the tackler and push him for another yard or two. All the time. That's why I loved Dillon in 2004. He always got the best of the collission. I just don't like LoMo's running style. He just never seems to get the best of any tacklers and is always cutting back. Other than the Cincinnati game last year(A lifetime ago it seems), I just haven't seen anything from this guy. I wonder if he really wants to be GREAT? I mean, he doesn't even run with an attitude. Look at Marion Barber. That guy runs with an attitude! Love that guy. I think Maroney is soft.

I think maturity issues and or a bad attitude in general could be Maroneys issue. I agree with you on Dillon and Morris. Sammy always won those battles in the tackles.

When I think of maroney I think of him cutting to the right , crawling up the back of his own blocker he ran into , then getting tackled for no gain.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

I think maturity issues and or a bad attitude in general could be Maroneys issue. I agree with you on Dillon and Morris. Sammy always won those battles in the tackles.

When I think of maroney I think of him cutting to the right , crawling up the back of his own blocker he ran into , then getting tackled for no gain.

Ya, I'm with ya. That's why I posted a couple days ago the article about him taking shots at his former coach at Minnesota when he was having a rough year last year and was on the hot seat. That's just not classy. I don't think Maroney is a trouble maker or bad person, but I do think he has an attitude of "I'm going to do things the way I've always done them", which is why the coaches are getting fed up with him. The thing is, BB and NONE of the coaches will ever rip him in the press. That's not how they do things. However, I definitely think you hit the nail on the head with him being benched and not hurt last sunday night.

 

[Deus Irae]

Watson and Warren don't play running back. Running back is a position that teams expect immediate dividends from when they use 1st rd pick on them. That's why I'm not concerned about Merriweather. I don't expect defensive backs(unless drafted in the Top 5) to come in and set the world on fire. However, I do expect the #1 running back taken in the ENTIRE draft to come in and play better than 500 yards, 1 TD, and 2 receptions in YEAR #2 of his career playing on the best offense of all-time.

That we even have to have a legitemate debate about who is better "Maroney or Morris" is all you have to know about Maroney's career thus far. That is sad in and of itself. Morris ran like the type of runner we want. He ran like Antowain Smith and Corey Dillon did. Straight ahead and hard. Maroney is always dancing and cutting back. That's why he found himself on the bench against the #22 ranked rushing defense in the league last sunday night.

Of all the asinine posts you've made on this topic, this one is probably the most ridiculous. You could compare Morris to Addai as easily as you compare him to Maroney. In fact, the recent numbers for Addai have been clearly below the level of either Maroney or Morris. Your arguments get weaker with every post.

Addai's last three games:

22 carries for 56 yards (2.5 ypc)
21 carries for 72 yards (3.4 ypc)
10 carries for 44 yards (4.4 ypc)

Now, why did the great Addai have that 10 carry game?


HE GOT HURT! HE'S MADE OF GLASS!

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Of all the asinine posts you've made on this topic, this one is probably the most ridiculous. You could compare Morris to Addai as easily as you compare him to Maroney. In fact, the numbers for Addai have been clearly below the level of either Maroney or Morris. Your arguments get weaker with every post.

Addai's last three games:

22 carries for 56 yards (2.5 ypc)
21 carries for 72 yards (3.4 ypc)
10 carries for 44 yards (4.4 ypc)

Now, why did the great Addai have that 10 carry game?


HE GOT HURT! HE'S MADE OF GLASS!

Ok, Einstein. How does Addai's stats in Indy's offense compare to Morris's stats in the greatest offense of all time? So, using your genius theory, I guess Brady was always inferior to Manning the past 6 seasons when manning had a better QB rating, TD's, and yards? Somehow me thinks you were one the many pats fans saying it was because of Manning's "weapons". However, now it is not fair to bring up the fact that Morris and Maroney have the advantage of playing on the greatest passing attack of all-time? Wow, I love how the homer brigade twists and turns everything. Do you honestly believe Addai would NOT be putting up better stats than the stats he has now running behind this offense? Do you think LT would still have a 3.7 YPC if he was running on this team and not on the friggen Chargers? Wow, and I thought Pats nation had graduated from yahooism to KNOWLEDGEABLE football fans.

 

[patsox23]

Pats are 5th in yards per game rushing.

They play a multi-back offense with the old-fashioned classic third down back who does it all.

The Pats are undefeated.

So WHY WHY WHY the endless threads (this one 21 pages or so now) dedicated to "Maroney is a bust"?

Because Danny and National Sports are like a dog with a bone, no matter how clear and overwhelming the evidence is that their theory on Maroney is hopelessly premature.

 

[patsox23]

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/11/22/backfield_in_slow_motion/

Maroney seems bothered by the suggestion that he dances too much behind the line of scrimmage. Although it might have appeared that way in last Sunday's win, he has evidence to the contrary.

Maroney's rushes went for 6, minus-2, 2, 9, 4, and 0 yards against the Bills.

The 6-yard run - which came in the first quarter and resulted in his first touchdown of the season - was a quick-hitting dive in which he exploded up the middle untouched, benefiting from terrific combination blocks from center Dan Koppen and guards Logan Mankins and Russ Hochstein.

On his next attempt, a 2-yard loss, tight end Kyle Brady missed his block off the left side of the line, allowing middle linebacker John DiGiorgio an unimpeded path to hammer Maroney, who had lined up 8 yards behind quarterback Tom Brady. Maroney didn't have a chance on the play.

The 2-yard run was a stalemate at the line of scrimmage, while the 9-yarder came on Maroney's only run behind a lead-blocking fullback, as the Patriots overpowered the Bills on the right side.

Maroney's final two runs came out of the shotgun, not his specialty because he doesn't generate much straight-ahead momentum to capitalize on his speed. Still, he made something out of nothing on his 4-yard jaunt, surging past defensive end Chris Kelsay, who was unblocked. The final run, for no gain, appeared to be a case in which Maroney's timing was off with Brady on the handoff.

So, all in all, it wasn't a downer of a performance except for the fact Maroney's playing time was limited.


I think we can all agree that Reiss tends not to be a fan-boy. He criticizes the team and praises it with equal levels of objectivity. I think he makes good points here.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Because Danny and National Sports are like a dog with a bone, no matter how clear and overwhelming the evidence is that their theory on Maroney is hopelessly premature.

Premature to what? What EVIDENCE is there to support any argument that this guy will be anything else but an AVERAGE running back? Seriously? Because he was a 1st rd pick????? It is only premature if you believe this kid has the POTENTIAL to be a GREAT back. I simply do NOT and have seen NOTHING that leads me to hope that he will be. Sorry, I don't call that premature. I call that being HONEST and a REALIST. I'm not a homer. Sorry.

 

[WestPat]

Wow, and I thought Pats nation had graduated from yahooism to KNOWLEDGEABLE football fans.

stop with the condescending BS, I have been following this thread, and instead of responding toposters poking holes in your asinine arguments, you are attacking them and questioning their intelligence.
As I see it, the Pats are running an offense that doesn't require the RB to run that much,you are basing all you drivel on assumptions that you haven't prove any of it, if Addai, and LtD were in this system, I don't see their numbers being that high, but what do I know?...I am not BB....and thankfully neither is you !!

 

[danny88]

Because Danny and National Sports are like a dog with a bone, no matter how clear and overwhelming the evidence is that their theory on Maroney is hopelessly premature.

Really pat sox. Are you telling me Maroney deserves no criticism? I am not calling for him to be traded. Nor calling him a bust. Why do you tend to go overboard with what I say?

Is it because you need to sensationalize what I say to make it seem like I am wrong?

Btw national sports makes PLENTY of great points in his posts. You people tend to make it seem like he is attacking you , when in reality people read his stuff and act like he is insane, and talk to him like he is a fool. Which he is not!

 

[National Sports Advisors]

stop with the condescending BS, I have been following this thread, and instead of responding to people poking holes in your asinine arguments, you are attacking people and questioning their intelligence.
As I see it, the Pats are running an offense that Doesn't need to RB to run that much,you are basing all you drivel on assumptions that you haven't prove anything of it, if Addai, and LtD were in this system, I don't see their numbers being that high, but what do I know...I am not BB....and thankfully neither is you !!

Ok, I get it. I'm not BB so I can't question anything??? Ya, ok. Nice. Let me go out and buy the hoodie and cut off the sleeves like Bill.

 

[danny88]

Ok, I get it. I'm not BB so I can't question anything??? Ya, ok. Nice. Let me go out and buy the hoodie and cut off the sleeves like Bill.

Its pointless. The homers will never admit Maroney may have been a bad pick.

 

[jman924]

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/11/22/backfield_in_slow_motion/

Maroney seems bothered by the suggestion that he dances too much behind the line of scrimmage. Although it might have appeared that way in last Sunday's win, he has evidence to the contrary.

Maroney's rushes went for 6, minus-2, 2, 9, 4, and 0 yards against the Bills.

The 6-yard run - which came in the first quarter and resulted in his first touchdown of the season - was a quick-hitting dive in which he exploded up the middle untouched, benefiting from terrific combination blocks from center Dan Koppen and guards Logan Mankins and Russ Hochstein.

On his next attempt, a 2-yard loss, tight end Kyle Brady missed his block off the left side of the line, allowing middle linebacker John DiGiorgio an unimpeded path to hammer Maroney, who had lined up 8 yards behind quarterback Tom Brady. Maroney didn't have a chance on the play.

The 2-yard run was a stalemate at the line of scrimmage, while the 9-yarder came on Maroney's only run behind a lead-blocking fullback, as the Patriots overpowered the Bills on the right side.

Maroney's final two runs came out of the shotgun, not his specialty because he doesn't generate much straight-ahead momentum to capitalize on his speed. Still, he made something out of nothing on his 4-yard jaunt, surging past defensive end Chris Kelsay, who was unblocked. The final run, for no gain, appeared to be a case in which Maroney's timing was off with Brady on the handoff.

So, all in all, it wasn't a downer of a performance except for the fact Maroney's playing time was limited.


I think we can all agree that Reiss tends not to be a fan-boy. He criticizes the team and praises it with equal levels of objectivity. I think he makes good points here.

I'm sure that those bad runs were still all LoMo's fault.
If it had been Sammy Morris, he would have picked him up and carried him another 10 yards.

 

[danny88]

I'm sure that those bad runs were still all LoMo's fault.
If it had been Sammy Morris, he would have picked him up and carried him another 10 yards.

Oh look another blatant exaggeration trying to make it seem that the people criticizing maroney think Morris is superhuman...


Good job!

 

[RussFrancis]

You two Maroney hating knukleheads are still at it on Thanksgiving weekend?? You truly do not deserve this team. Go root for the friggin' Dolphins. Maroney gets pulled again in another blowout, this time because Faulk gets a concussion, and this is the spin??? Cmon, get a life.

 

[jman924]

Oh look another blatant exaggeration trying to make it seem that the people criticizing maroney think Morris is superhuman...


Good job!

Hey don't worry!\
No need to address the piece from the Globe.

Good Job!:bricks:
Are you that scarred that maybe, you are wrong in assuming that everything is Maroney's fault?