OT: Did the Bucs SB loss Break Patrick Mahomes?

[amfootball]

Even if you count that game, you do realize Brady was a mediocre 3-4 on the road right up until 2018 AFCCG on the road, don't you?

Wait a minute. Are you not counting the 2020 season when he won 3 on the road? His road record is actually 7-4. He also won 4 conference championship games on the road in his career. No QB has ever done that.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Wait a minute. Are you not counting the 2020 season when he won 3 on the road? His road record is actually 7-4. He also won 4 conference championship games on the road in his career. No QB has ever done that.

The point I was making it took Brady 2 decades to get a respectable road playoff record. For the most part, as a Patriot, Brady was mediocre on the road just like Montana was.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Biggest thing that about Montana is his Super Bowl record is due to the NFC dominance more so than super clutch play at the highest levels. The NFC won 13 straight during this stretch, and the AFC sacrificial lamb was often the equivalent of an NFC Wild Card team. Going 4-0 sounds amazing, until you consider that the following QBs combined to go 11-0: Williams, Rypien, McMahon, Simms, Hostetler, Aikman, Young, Favre.

Against the real powerhouses of the league in the 1980s, the 49ers under Montana:

2-0 against the Bears
2-3 against the Giants
1-1 against the Redskins

5-4 overall

That’s good…those were the best teams. Montana was a great QB, but he didn’t play on a magical clutch level either. No one has. That isn’t how football works.

 

[amfootball]

The point I was making it took Brady 2 decades to get a respectable road playoff record. For the most part, as a Patriot, Brady was mediocre on the road just like Montana was.

He didn't play many road games as we almost always had the bye. 4-4 is .500 and 3 of those wins were AFCCG vs Pitt twice and KC. Montana was 1-3. I fail to see the comparison at all. Brady smokes him.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

He didn't play many road games as we almost always had the bye. 4-4 is .500 and 3 of those wins were AFCCG vs Pitt twice and KC. Montana was 1-3. I fail to see the comparison at all. Brady smokes him.

Yes, and the three games Montana lost to on the road were to a historic 85-86 NYG defense led by Belichick (twice) as well as a Redskins team that won the super bowl the previous year. No shame in losing to Belichick, Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, and co. And if we are getting technical, Montana is 2-4 on the road in the playoffs if you count his Chiefs years. Unfortunately, I had to rely on dinglemoron for his research...

 

[PatsWSB47]

Even if you count that game, you do realize Brady was a mediocre 3-4 on the road right up until 2018 AFCCG on the road, don't you?

He stands alone as the greatest of all time. Stop it already with these tiny little no perspective "points"

 

[Dingleberry]

If you are going to troll, at least get your stats right. Montana is 1-3 on the road in the playoffs, while Brady is 3-4 as a Patriot (not including the 2001 AFCCG in which he got injured early on). But I'm sure you got your "facts" off statsmuse, which was counting the super bowls, which technically aren't road games.

I'm on your side! Let me help you.

 

[Dingleberry]

Everyone overlooks that Brady never once looked in the stands and noticed John Candy or any other celebrity during a game winning drive in the Super Bowl. Not cool and not GOAT.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

He stands alone as the greatest of all time. Stop it already with these tiny little no perspective "points"

Sure, he's the GOAT, but not wrt performance in the SB...that's Montana.

 

[venecol]

Thanks, creepy old man

 

[PatsWSB47]

Sure, he's the GOAT, but not wrt performance in the SB...that's Montana.

Narrowing the goalposts again. Still debatable but at least you're conceding who the GOAT is

 

[Nehalem]

The point I was making it took Brady 2 decades to get a respectable road playoff record. For the most part, as a Patriot, Brady was mediocre on the road just like Montana was.

Playoff records are... weird.

Basically the only way to get a decent playoff record is to win the SB.

For instance between 2010-2013, Brady played in 1 SB and 3 AFCCG, a performance that would be great for any non-Brady QB... his playoff record was 4-4

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Sure, he's the GOAT, but not wrt performance in the SB...that's Montana.

Montana would have more rings if you weren’t terrified of women.

 

[Kontradiction]

Montana would have more rings if you weren’t terrified of women.

I have no clue how to tie these two parts of the sentence together and draw a conclusion, but I laughed all the same.

 

[crawhammer]

When you lose multiple super bowls, the mistakes in those games matter.

Brady could have gone 10-0 with 10 game-winning drives in the Super Bowl and you'd still find something to complain about. And not even Joe Montana agrees he's as great as you say he is.

Sorry, Brady had 1 scoring drive in the 2001 AFCCG, while Bledsoe had 2. Beyond that, it was mostly special teams. So Brady is 3-4 as Patriot on the road in the playoffs.

When you have to lie to make your argument then you know you've lost. Brady was 4-4 on the road in the postseason as a Patriot and 3-0 as a Buc. Overall his 7 postseason road wins are the most ever. 50% of his career ended with a Super Bowl appearance and 35% of his career ended with a Super Bowl title.

You can combine the two best quarterbacks of any franchise and that joint-career is still not as good as Brady's singular career.

For example...

Montana & Young Regular Seasons:
505 Passing TD
246 INT
73,657 Passing Yards
211 Wins
96 Losses
39 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
44 Game-Winning Drives
4 NFL MVP
15 Pro Bowl

Brady Regular Seasons:
624 Passing TD
203 INT
84,520 Passing Yards
243 Wins
73 Losses
42 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
53 Game-Winning Drives
3 NFL MVP
15 Pro Bowl

Montana & Young Postseasons:
65 Passing TD
34 INT
9098 Passing Yards
24 Wins
13 Losses
6 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
6 Game-Winning Drives
5 Super Bowl Titles
4 Super Bowl MVP

Brady Postseasons:
86 Passing TD
39 INT
13,049 Passing Yards
35 Wins
12 Losses
9 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
14 Game-Winning Drives
7 Super Bowl Titles
5 Super Bowl MVP

Hands down Brady had a better career than the combined careers of Montana and Young.

 

[venecol]

Is there a reason you changed your avatar to a picture of a couple 18 year old women? Or are you just a creepy middle aged man?

I figured it would bring the incel out in you, that even middle aged men can get pretty women and you've never touched a vagina.

In fact, you are a vagina.

 

[VectorPrime]

Brady should have lost more regular season games so he could play in more road playoff games duh. What a fraud.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Montana would have more rings if you weren’t terrified of women.

The only kind of women I'm terrified of is the kind that look like you...

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Brady could have gone 10-0 with 10 game-winning drives in the Super Bowl and you'd still find something to complain about. And not even Joe Montana agrees he's as great as you say he is.


When you have to lie to make your argument then you know you've lost. Brady was 4-4 on the road in the postseason as a Patriot and 3-0 as a Buc. Overall his 7 postseason road wins are the most ever. 50% of his career ended with a Super Bowl appearance and 35% of his career ended with a Super Bowl title.

You can combine the two best quarterbacks of any franchise and that joint-career is still not as good as Brady's singular career.

For example...

Montana & Young Regular Seasons:
505 Passing TD
246 INT
73,657 Passing Yards
211 Wins
96 Losses
39 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
44 Game-Winning Drives
4 NFL MVP
15 Pro Bowl

Brady Regular Seasons:
624 Passing TD
203 INT
84,520 Passing Yards
243 Wins
73 Losses
42 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
53 Game-Winning Drives
3 NFL MVP
15 Pro Bowl

Montana & Young Postseasons:
65 Passing TD
34 INT
9098 Passing Yards
24 Wins
13 Losses
6 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
6 Game-Winning Drives
5 Super Bowl Titles
4 Super Bowl MVP

Brady Postseasons:
86 Passing TD
39 INT
13,049 Passing Yards
35 Wins
12 Losses
9 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
14 Game-Winning Drives
7 Super Bowl Titles
5 Super Bowl MVP

Hands down Brady had a better career than the combined careers of Montana and Young.

You don't understand the concept of quarterbacks playing in different eras, do you? I mean if you have guys like Matthew Stafford (a non HOFer according to many on this forum) throwing 41 touchdowns, what does that tell you about how watered-down the league has become? It's too bad Brady didn't show up in SB42 after he guaranteed more than 17 points lol.

 

[Kontradiction]

Here's the origin of Porksley (credit to @Kontradiction ).

Man in the Arena Discussion

It’s cliche as hell at this point but that opening drive by the Giants which killed like 12 minutes of clock was when you knew this was not going to go well.

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That’s actually not the origin story of Mortimer Porksley. The original one was somewhere in the Pub. I could tell it hit close to the mark based on his reaction. I’ll be damned if I can find it now, though. Might want to have a seat before I tell you this, because it is truly shocking - either the post or the entire thread got deleted. I know, right? Here? Who would have thought?

Anyway, that story isn’t finished yet. We still need to cover Mortimer’s college years, his trials and tribulations with the opposite sex, his transformation into a “man,” and his career as a paralegal. I’m thinking there might be two parts left.