NFL News Tom Brady Retires (Update: Shouts out to Pats players, coaches on social media)

[1960Pats]

There was a difference the younger Brady was capable of carrying a team with lesser talent, the Brady of the last couple of years needed talent around him to succeed. Remarkable the level of performance given his age regardless.

Brady carried the 2019 Pats, a less talented team with offensive injuries, to a 12-4 season and the 2nd seed in the playoffs. It could have been the top seed if a Pats TD wasn't missed against KC.

The Pats came within a whisker of the top seed in the NYFL this past season with a rookie QB. Brady could have been the difference.

 

[1960Pats]

I still question whether can can carry a bad team like he did in say 2006. But he is capable of being elite when he has good to great pieces around him. But we will never know on the former.

He carried a bad team with an injured offense to 12-4 and the 2nd seed in 2019. He then carried a Bucs team, that was loaded with injuries all year, to the playoffs and also made a two TD comeback in the 4th quarter against the eventual NFC champs. Denying that he can still carry teams is preposterous with the evidence right in front of our eyes. He retired as 'on top' as any QB could.

 

[1960Pats]

Absolutely stunned that Shank said something nice about Brady. He never has a positive thing to say about any Boston athlete

I have to take your word on that. He isn't on my media hit list but I don't like him and don't read what he has to say.

 

[1960Pats]

I understand Brady was hurt by it.

I never argued otherwise.

I don't even think he owes it to everyone.

I posted that it makes Brady look petty and actually a little dimwitted. But then again, those are 2 character traits which are not off character at all.

If he couldn't prevent himself from feeling miffed, someone should have probably stepped in and said, being petty is only going to detract from your retirement because all anyone is talking about on social media is your slight of the Patriots.

Just think it's dumb stuff from Brady, especially being the GOAT, you just wipe that stuff away and bask in your glory.

Obviously the guy is bothered by something or an accumulation of things.

 

[1960Pats]

Agreed, it does demonstrate that BB was trying to remain competitive for 1 more year. with Gordon, Ab and a healthy Edelman they were capable of being a highly competitive team. BB knew they would end up in cap hell and need a rebuild hence the unwillingness to go beyond 1 year. So Brady moving on was best for all parties.

I just can't agree that keeping one player, even a QB, was going to put the Pats in cap hell.

Because the Pats were not prepared for his departure it tells me that Bill thought that it was the same old stuff and Brady would come back for less than market value for a GOAT QB. Bill was wrong, dead wrong.

 

[1960Pats]

I find it fascinating Early Bird threw is kibbie when it's Jonathan who really has the temper.

It was all orchestrated. That's why Kraft was angry in public.

Now Kraft knows the anger some fans felt when he let Brady go.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

I have to take your word on that. He isn't on my media hit list but I don't like him and don't read what he has to say.

Essentially he hates Boston sports because the Sox won in 04 and cost him a ton of supplemental income since he couldn't write about the curse of the bambino anymore. Hes in the same category as Borges.

 

[1960Pats]

What do you have against Kraft? You should show more respect. He's done a lot for this region, not the least of which is keeping the Patriots here and building a stadium with his own money.

Isn't the answer to that question obvious? He let the GOAT QB walk away for nothing.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Porksley, I would venture to guess if a poll was conducted on the main forum, that you would be voted off the island. Get some help or try to get laid even if you have to pay.

Um, most people on here get along with me just fine. I dare you to post a poll like you said you would. But you won't.

 

[Rob0729]

He carried a bad team with an injured offense to 12-4 and the 2nd seed in 2019. He then carried a Bucs team, that was loaded with injuries all year, to the playoffs and also made a two TD comeback in the 4th quarter against the eventual NFC champs. Denying that he can still carry teams is preposterous with the evidence right in front of our eyes. He retired as 'on top' as any QB could.

That wasn’t a bad team. The defense was dominant until the final stretch when the whole team fell apart. During the 2019 season, the defense shut out three teams, had seven games where they only gave up ten points or less, 11 games where they gave up 14 points or less, and 12 games where they gave up 17 points or less. All those games were wins. The losses were games the Pats gave up 23 points or more.

The offense wasn‘t good but overachieved at times in 2019 which Brady was part of. But until they fell apart down the stretch, the defense was the best defense in the league. Have you already forgotten the Boogeyman Defense? Brady didn’t carry that team.

 

[Tunescribe]

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. Again, that forum was created to provide you and the rest of the triggered Team Bill krew a safe space so you didn't have to read about Tom Brady, the Greatest Player in NFL history and the leader of the Patriots for 2 decades, mentioned in a Patriots forum.

It actually became a joke that any mention of Brady got jettisoned to the forum. Nobody in that forum asked for the forum. It was whinny cry babies like you and your click that hounded Ian for months asking for any mention of Brady to be removed from the main forum.

Ironically, you, Mac10 and a few others proceeded to troll that forum every chance you had (usually after a Brady loss).

I'm all for Brady being allowed to be discussed in the main forum, since he's the greatest player in Patriots history. Fortunately, I won't have to drive to Ian's house waiting for the white smoke to come out of his chimney for the decision. Lol

Cut the crap. One more time: (1) I never once objected to Brady discussions in the main forum, (2) my trolling your clique was aimed at over-the-top Buccaneers fandom coupled with anti-Patriots B.S. End of story.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

That wasn’t a bad team. The defense was dominant until the final stretch when the whole team fell apart. During the 2019 season, the defense shut out three teams, had seven games where they only gave up ten points or less, 11 games where they gave up 14 points or less, and 12 games where they gave up 17 points or less. All those games were wins. The losses were games the Pats gave up 23 points or more.

The offense wasn‘t good in 2019. But until they fell apart down the stretch, the defense was the best defense in the league. Have you already forgotten the Boogeyman Defense? Brady didn’t carry that team.

My god. They were the boogeymen defense solely because they played bad teams. When they played good teams the defense was nowhere to be found. If Mac had not enough weapon this year then in 2019 Brady was alone on offense.

 

[Noexcusesfornumber5]

That wasn’t a bad team. The defense was dominant until the final stretch when the whole team fell apart. During the 2019 season, the defense shut out three teams, had seven games where they only gave up ten points or less, 11 games where they gave up 14 points or less, and 12 games where they gave up 17 points or less. All those games were wins. The losses were games the Pats gave up 23 points or more.

The offense wasn‘t good but overachieved at times in 2019 which Brady was part of. But until they fell apart down the stretch, the defense was the best defense in the league. Have you already forgotten the Boogeyman Defense? Brady didn’t carry that team.

He was to busy crying about being the most miserable 8-0 QB in history. You know, really inspiring his team like a true leader does.

 

[1960Pats]

Cut the crap. One more time: (1) I never once objected to Brady discussions in the main forum, (2) my trolling your clique was aimed at over-the-top Buccaneers fandom coupled with anti-Patriots B.S. End of story.

Admitting you're a troll is the first step in recovery.

 

[1960Pats]

My god. They were the boogeymen defense solely because they played bad teams. When they played good teams the defense was nowhere to be found. If Mac had not enough weapon this year then in 2019 Brady was alone on offense.

How do you think the Pats would have done if Tom was the QB for the season that just ended? I bet they would have made a decent run at a SB and wouldn't have been routed in their last game.

 

[Rob0729]

My god. They were the boogeymen defense solely because they played bad teams. When they played good teams the defense was nowhere to be found. If Mac had not enough weapon this year then in 2019 Brady was alone on offense.

Whether it was because they played bad teams is irrelevant to the point. They were dominant during the 12 wins like the defense was dominant in games they won this year. The 2019 wasn’t carried by Brady as the poster I responded to claimed. That was my point.

Brady had an amazing career. No need to rewrite history to make his career better than it was.

 

[venecol]

Cut the crap. One more time: (1) I never once objected to Brady discussions in the main forum, (2) my trolling your clique was aimed at over-the-top Buccaneers fandom coupled with anti-Patriots B.S. End of story.

Whatever lets you sleep better at night.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

How do you think the Pats would have done if Tom was the QB for the season that just ended? I bet they would have made a decent run at a SB and wouldn't have been routed in their last game.

They would probably have been 13-4 or 14-3 in the regular season and in the AFC championship game with Brady this year.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

How do you think the Pats would have done if Tom was the QB for the season that just ended? I bet they would have made a decent run at a SB and wouldn't have been routed in their last game.

Who’s to say Tom would’ve even played this past season. It was painfully obvious he was not happy with his personnel in 2019. The 2020 version wasn’t any better. He could’ve just said screw it I don’t need to deal with the Nkeal Harry’s of the world any longer, I’m done.

 

[Rob0729]

How do you think the Pats would have done if Tom was the QB for the season that just ended? I bet they would have made a decent run at a SB and wouldn't have been routed in their last game.

In back to back games against the Bills, the Pats defense let the Bills score on every drive. In one of those games, the Bills scored a TD on every drive. How would Brady have changed that? The Pats this year had a similar year to 2019.

The Pats were not getting through Buffalo with or without Brady. Brady might have let the Pats draw a different match up and won a game before exiting the playoffs. The defense could not hold up against any of the top teams in the AFC the way it was playing down the stretch.