Poll: Will Bill make a Trade at the deadline?

[Grogan14]

They are 4million under the cap and do not have a lot of draft capital and most likely will not get compensatory picks this year. No trades coming.

 

[slash83]

Money would’ve been better applied towards Gilmore for his last year.

Well yeah nobody is picking Mills over Gilmore, but still not calling it a pointless signing.

 

[PWRxWLF]

Gonna throw this here. Did I miss ya’ll talking about Bill offering the 49ers a 2nd rd pick for JG in this years draft, but Niners wanted a 1st, so he backed out? I don’t remember ever hearing about this. Am I losing it? I saw it from one of those FB news ads. I went to scroll and FB did that whole update list thing, and now I can’t find it. I think it said it was from Wicks book?

 

[DropKickFlutie]

They are 4million under the cap and do not have a lot of draft capital and most likely will not get compensatory picks this year. No trades coming.

Just using this to make a note that the "we had to trade Gilmore to sign Collins" spin was total garbage.

Multiple other ways to sign Collins while potentially keeping Gilmore at a prorated contract that kept the star corner happy.

 

[PScottman]

RLKAG

Mmmmm....gazpacho.

 

[PScottman]

The Pats wins have all come against rookie QBs on very bad teams. Sure they had shots to win every game, but they don’t have enough to compete this year. I would trade away anyone they can and stockpile the picks.

let’s remember that the Pats have zero shot at any comp picks this year, they are going to end up @ 6 wins. So I would trade away the veterans for picks to contenders, and yes, see what you can get for JC.

I doubt that BB wants to play JC what he is going to command, so they might as well try and get something for him.

In typical strategic fashion, the more likely outcome is a balance of keeping the veteran core around Jones while not taking on too much that would kill future flexibility and opportunity for his next couple rookie contract years.

Additionally culture matters, squeeze what little you can from HT and McCourty in that regard - or do you prefer Collins and Van Noy setting your defensive culture from a player perspective as the vets??????

And I thought that BB the Drafter sucked...why then get additional picks? (If Santiago wasn't to be touched...why did he have to be transferred off the base?)

 

[JayNM]

No, in the sense that it wont be a big trade. Mabe a small one. And Im glad for it

This isnt the year we go all in and his last trades have been... bad, to put it in a way i wont get bombarded with answers

 

[Sciz]

Gonna throw this here. Did I miss ya’ll talking about Bill offering the 49ers a 2nd rd pick for JG in this years draft, but Niners wanted a 1st, so he backed out? I don’t remember ever hearing about this. Am I losing it? I saw it from one of those FB news ads. I went to scroll and FB did that whole update list thing, and now I can’t find it. I think it said it was from Wicks book?

Sounds like one of Wickersham’s half-truths. Of all the times to make a Garoppolo trade, on day 1 of the draft makes the least sense. The only other realistic trade location was Denver, and then they traded for Bridgewater the day before the draft. Meanwhile, the people who actually report on this stuff every day really downplayed things leading up to the draft:

Trade compensation
Bedard: third- (if the 49ers eat some money) or fourth-round range.
Howe: 49ers would need to loosen demands, I strongly believe the 49ers would have gotten a much higher pick 6-7 weeks ago if they were more willing negotiators.
Rapoport: mid-round pick
Reiss: Maybe a third? Or something that equals out to that in a pick-swap type scenario.

Contract
Howe: JG would need a big restructure.
Lazar: Pats don’t have the cap space, nor [do they] want to pay Jimmy $25.5M.
Rapoport: it would take a complex contract negotiation to get it done

Chance of trade in general
Rapoport: the #Patriots aren’t expected to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo tonight or anytime soon.
Howe: Nothing happening between the Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo at this time, according to two sources.
Schefter: But as of early this morning, the chances of him being traded are, in the words of one source, “remote.”
Curran: nothing is happening with Jimmy in the very near future.

 

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[203Pat]

I would rather be a seller and offload any of the older guys we could. Not that any of them would be wanted by many other teams.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Sounds like one of Wickersham’s half-truths. Of all the times to make a Garoppolo trade, on day 1 of the draft makes the least sense. The only other realistic trade location was Denver, and then they traded for Bridgewater the day before the draft. Meanwhile, the people who actually report on this stuff every day really downplayed things leading up to the draft:

My guess is they were doing their research in case the draft went pear-shaped and all their QB prospects were off the board before they could pick.

No serious intent.

 

[PWRxWLF]

Sounds like one of Wickersham’s half-truths. Of all the times to make a Garoppolo trade, on day 1 of the draft makes the least sense. The only other realistic trade location was Denver, and then they traded for Bridgewater the day before the draft. Meanwhile, the people who actually report on this stuff every day really downplayed things leading up to the draft:

Trade compensation
Bedard: third- (if the 49ers eat some money) or fourth-round range.
Howe: 49ers would need to loosen demands, I strongly believe the 49ers would have gotten a much higher pick 6-7 weeks ago if they were more willing negotiators.
Rapoport: mid-round pick
Reiss: Maybe a third? Or something that equals out to that in a pick-swap type scenario.

Contract
Howe: JG would need a big restructure.
Lazar: Pats don’t have the cap space, nor [do they] want to pay Jimmy $25.5M.
Rapoport: it would take a complex contract negotiation to get it done

Chance of trade in general
Rapoport: the #Patriots aren’t expected to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo tonight or anytime soon.
Howe: Nothing happening between the Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo at this time, according to two sources.
Schefter: But as of early this morning, the chances of him being traded are, in the words of one source, “remote.”
Curran: nothing is happening with Jimmy in the very near future.

Well thought out response. Thank you. Just seemed crazy to me. Had it happened, it’s highly doubtful BB goes rd 1 with a qb and we’d all be stuck watching Garoppolo play only every few games. I love Bill. I really do, but sometimes I can’t figure out wtf is going through his head. He was willing to give the same amount of compensation that we received for a now beat up, more expensive version? The love affair for JG is gross.

 

[PWRxWLF]

My guess is they were doing their research in case the draft went pear-shaped and all their QB prospects were off the board before they could pick.

No serious intent.

That’s another possibility I hadn’t considered.

 

[FCB02062]

there's no reason to make a trade unless they can pick up a backup olineman insurance policy for a 7th round pick. this team isn't going anywhere, even if they do make the tournament. Don't forget there's only 1 bye so the Pats, who would likely be the 7 or 6 seed would be going to any one of Buffalo, Oakland (refuse to say Vegas), Baltimore, maybe Cincinnati, Tennessee....sure, a great learning experience for the team but no way Bill the GM needs to overpay for a guy of Sanu's quality or lack therof again...

 

[Hyped]

How about sending N'Keal and a mid-round pick to the Cardinals for Christian Kirk who is in the final year of his rookie year. Kirk is playing with Hopkins, Green, Moore, and now Ertz...a bit crowded at pass receiver. Kirk would provide us another deep threat.

Or just trade Harry straight up for Isabella?

 

[203Pat]

How about sending N'Keal and a mid-round pick to the Cardinals for Christian Kirk who is in the final year of his rookie year. Kirk is playing with Hopkins, Green, Moore, and now Ertz...a bit crowded at pass receiver. Kirk would provide us another deep threat.

Or just trade Harry straight up for Isabella?

Why would anyone give up anything aside from a late round pick for Harry? Kirk is on track for his most receiving yards and is averaging over 4 catches a game with 4 TDs on the year. Why would the Cardinals trade that for a guy with 3 catches for 47 yards and still can't line up right in year 3?

 

[Skyflarie]

How about sending N'Keal and a mid-round pick to the Cardinals for Christian Kirk who is in the final year of his rookie year. Kirk is playing with Hopkins, Green, Moore, and now Ertz...a bit crowded at pass receiver. Kirk would provide us another deep threat.

Or just trade Harry straight up for Isabella?

I feel like the best that BB could get for Harry is a conditional 6th or 7th, based on playing time, however crazier things have happened!

 

[mgteich]

Most pointless signing of the offseason.

yup, Williams should be starting?????

 

[TheRainMaker]

yup, Williams should be starting?????

As I've replied after my OP, the money should've been used towards Gilmore's final year here to get him back on the field. Rumor from Schefter is that Gilmore would've started training to get back on the field had be been paid. He didn't so he milked his injury.

And yes, being a 2nd round pick, Williams should be starting.

 

[Hyped]

Why would anyone give up anything aside from a late round pick for Harry? Kirk is on track for his most receiving yards and is averaging over 4 catches a game with 4 TDs on the year. Why would the Cardinals trade that for a guy with 3 catches for 47 yards and still can't line up right in year 3?

Kirk is in the final year of his rookie deal and likely will not be resigned.

The Cardinals liked N'Keal when he came out...I think they would have taken N'Keal with pick 2.01 4 years ago.

And my suggestion was to trade N'Keal AND A PICK to the Cardinals for Kirk.