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PostGame Thread Official Post Game Thread- Cowboys beat the Pats


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Season is over imho
2-4 is hard to come back from.
Onto next year!!
Yeah good rebuild time this year….work towards next year with Mac getting reps
 
Stevenson had 3 catches for 39 yards. He has some ability to catch the ball. I'd like to see more of him in this regard.

He isn't a third down back through. They can definitely use him in the passing game, but he will never be a White, Lewis, Woodhead, or Faulk type of back in this offense. They need someone like that.
 
Hunter Henry whiffed on a block. Why wasn’t he benched?

Bourne drops a pass that turned into an INT for a TD, but wasn’t benched.

Wynn gets bulldozed again and allows a sack for his 2nd consecutive game, but doesn’t get benched.

Stop benching RB’s.
 
LMAO. They didn't have the ball much because if $__t play calling that couldn't get first downs.

Cowboys stacked the box to stop the run and sat on short routes.
WRONG. Pay attention to what's actually going on instead of spewing BS.

The Pats only needed 8 plays to get 3 of their TDs. They had 7 in the 1st quarter that got them two. And then just 1 in the 4th quarter to take the lead after the Pick 6. So, you don't need a lot of 1st downs when that happens.

The Pats had 2 drives killed by poor execution. The play that resulted in the strip sack and the play that resulted in the Pick 6. Neither were "bad play-calling". Both were bad execution by the offense. Someone without an axe to grind would acknowledge this. |

The BOLDEN RUN on 3rd down was a bad play call. But that was the only REALLY bad one.

Yep.. Cowboys stacked the box so much that Harris and Stevens had a combined 23 carries for 124 yards. 5.39 YPC. Great job showing you don't know what your talking about Condon.

Try sticking to actual facts instead of ranting on with your feelings.
 
I dunno, I think Steve Belichick is doing a good job. The defense just has to play Collins over Bentley and Barmore over Godchaux. The D contained the Cowboys offense as good as one can do without a star CB1.
It's more the offense that seems like it could improve with a new oc.

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Idk...if you looked at his coach play calling sheet it probably would have circles in crayon on it.
 


Good thinking.

And tell a bunch of the coaches not to come back.
 
I'm not sure how next year is going to be some kind of massive leap in the talent of this team, it's going to be pretty much the same team with a few minor additions.

Mac is already playing average quarterbacking unless you're expecting him to jump and become a top 10 QB in one off season i just don't see some kind of massive upgrade of talent coming for the 2022 Patriots.

You've also got a few key veterans who probably won't be back like McCourty and Hightower.
 
Hunter Henry whiffed on a block. Why wasn’t he benched?
ENTIRE TEAM SUCKS AT TACKLING AND BLOCKING…..especially TACKLING…..worse than Pop warner…..NO fundamentals….BB should be ashamed
 
The Pats just went to overtime with a top-5 team in the league despite losing the turnover differential -2, and effectively giving up two pick-6s (Diggs' actual pick-6, and the Meyers TD that was called back, which promptly turned into a turnover, a 7 point swing). If they had recovered the muffed punt, they likely win that game in regulation despite losing the turnover battle -1 (-2 in actuality, but -1 hypothetically had they recovered that muff) to the best offensive team in football. I say this not to argue that this was a moral victory, but I say this to demonstrate that there isn't some fatal, fundamental flaw with this team. They're a good, not great, football team that can play with anyone in the league, but need to stop turning the ball over and be a bit a tougher in critical, late-game situations if they want to turn close losses into close wins.

My reaction is not one of: "man, this team is complete hot garbage, with a bad coach, bad players, and no future".
Instead my reaction is: "man, that was a close game. I'm frustrated this team can't make the critical plays late in games to come up with wins, and I'm really frustrated that they keep turning the ball over".

There isn't some fundamental flaw or "gotcha" issue. The coaching (particularly offensively) could be better in spots, I think McDaniels made some serious strategic errors today. The players need to make plays and execute better at times, they need to stop turning the damn ball over ... but they're not a bad team, with 3 of their 4 losses coming by a combined 9 points, two of those games being against top-5 teams in the league. They laid their once-per-season egg against New Orleans and played down to Houston.

They're still 1-3 years away from potentially being elite again (pending personnel decisions and Mac's progression). They need more talent in their defensive front-7, and Jones needs time to grow physically and gain experience, but they're not a bad team in their current iteration; they're a pretty good, not great team, that can't stop turning the ball over. Outside of the Jets game, I believe this team's TO differential for the season is -9 (-5 including the Jets game). I don't care how good you are, you won't win many games when that's the case.

The defense was good enough today, but they weren't great. "Great" would've been a late turnover to seal the game. Am I disappointed in the defense given who they were playing? No. Do I want to see them take the next step towards being great, which is generating game-winning plays? Absolutely.

Am I happy they lost? Absolutely not. Are they immune from criticism? Nope. Were there coaching decisions that I would've liked to have seen approached differently, by both Belichick and McDaniels? 100%, yes.

Do I think Bill Belichick is some feeble, infirm, old man who has lost his grasp on the game, lost his edge, and lost the essence of winning football? Not at all. Do I still feel he's as good of a coach as you'll find in the league? Yes, certainly. Do I trust him leading this team through the next 4-5 years, should he choose to stick around for that length of time? There's no one else I'd rather have.

Football is such a game-to-game, matchup sport. Do I think it's likely they win the division? Not at all. But we've seen runs happen, teams get hot, wacky plays/bounces of the ball, etc, and I wouldn't be shocked if New England found some traction and ended up around 9-10 wins, while Buffalo loses their magic. Would I put money on it? Nope, not for a second. Will I hold out hope they turn things around? Yeah, for sure.

Division aside, I think they have a good chance of making the postseason as a wild-card. 2-4 looks bad ... 3-3, or 4-2 would feel much better, but ultimately 2-4 is only one or two games away from 3-3/4-2, and most of the league is sitting in the 2-4 to 4-2 bracket, with 11 games left to be played. Don't need to be a mathematician to realize the team's goal of making the postseason is still very much in front of them.

The most important thing is that this team recovers physically and emotionally in order to avoid a letdown against the Jets. If I was Belichick, I might give them an extra day off and let them recharge. After a tough, emotional loss like this, I think it's better to err on the side of less work, more time to mentally/physically reinvigorate, than run the guys into the ground and come out flat the following week.

Looking forward to the rest of this season: The schedule is somewhat frontloaded. Buffalo is a good team but those AFCE games are usually tight and we matchup well with them. Outside of those games against Buffalo, the toughest ones left are LAC, CLE, TEN, CAR - all of those games are played by the end of November and are winnable. If they can win 3-4 of those matchups and pull out at least one against Buffalo, I think they will get a wild card spot (and if they find their way in, no one is going to want to play them, IMO).

At the end of the day losing f*cking sucks. The difference between a nice autumn evening and a miserable one is a Pats win, and I miss the feeling of them pulling out a big win ... miss it a lot. That said, it’s hard to feel they’re a bad team after watching today’s game; they looked like a playoff team to me. They just can’t find the plays they need to win close games. Tough, but on the balance I feel relatively positive about watching them going forward (for the rest of this season, and beyond into future seasons).
 
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Whats maddening is that this game was there to win.

So was Miami and Tampa. 4 - 2 was a real possibility because its not as if the Pats are being blown off the field.
 
I think they’ve essentially frozen Smith out. He’s been abysmal; not just bad for a free agent splash but just bad by any standard. I’d prefer to just see them use an extra lineman as a TE2 for blocking.
They need to figure it out because he cost way too much $$ to be frozen out 5 games in. I haven’t looked at the contract details but I can’t imagine he’s cutable at a reason cap hit until 2023.
 
Patriots just invent ways to lose, they're just one of those loser teams who celebrate moral victories like this forum used to mock.

The game was won and they gave it up on 3rd and 25.
Who on the Patriots is celebrating these moral victorys?
 
Blaming the OC is such a Jetes fan thing. We haven't sunk that low, have we?
Are we supposed to ignore reality then?

Ill say this, McD is doing a good job grooming Mac Jones.

But he needs to stop ****ing him
 


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