DRAFT Welcome Mac Jones

[RobertWeathers]

Mac Jones Patriots Hype Trailer - Emperor Belichick Drafts New Apprentice - YouTube

I loved that.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I loved that.

Meanwhile, Brady a-s-s kisser Skip Bayless chimes in...

 

[Redman443]

Meanwhile, Brady a-s-s kisser Skip Bayless chimes in...

He's a clown. Jealous that Bill got a QB

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

"Strongest arm" has to be the stupidest thing ever. There is no science to measuring arm strength besides miles per hour. Scouts talking about "zip" on passes are just as silly as baseball scouts claiming they can tell the difference between a 96 mph and 98 mph fastball without a radar gun.

Brady not having a strong arm? Lmfao...absolutely idiotic stuff.

Here's some interesting MPH points that show just how moronic this all is and how much it is colored by narrative and perception. I mean, when we hear about arm strength, the entire point is how quickly the ball gets from the quarterback's hand to the spot, right? These guys all throw footballs at similar speeds, though certainly a guy at the top (60 mph) might have an advantage over a guy at the bottom (50 mph). But most everyone is just muddled into the middle here...even the guys thought to have weak arms and the guys thought to have strong arms (Mahomes, Flacco, etc.)

Quarterback Ball Velocity at NFL Combine 2008-2023

The most respected source for NFL Draft info among NFL Fans, Media, and Scouts, plus accurate, up to date NFL Depth Charts, Practice Squads and Rosters.

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MPH

 

[sean10mm]

I almost wonder if there is a little bit of "market inefficiency" at work here. Everybody is rushing to get the next "athlete-quarterback" and Belichick is waiting for the pocket passer to drop to him.

 

[Bill Lee]

Interesting comments from Breer:

NFL Draft 2021: Day 2 News and Rumors

With just a few hours before Rounds 2 and 3, here's Albert Breer's latest intel from making calls around the league.

www.si.com

The Patriots’ approach to the draft (and the quarterback position in general this offseason): Let the QB come to us. Similarly to how they didn’t make much of a play for their old flame Jimmy Garoppolo, they didn’t get overly aggressive on Thursday night either. One team they’d talked to in the top 10 called them ahead of picking, and their basic response about having an interest in trading up was: “We’re good.” Similarly, when the Giants were on the clock at No. 11, and the Bears were coming up for Justin Fields, the New York brass (helmed by Bill Belichick’s old boss, John Mara, and with a New England-bred head coach, Joe Judge) didn’t get so much as a phone call from Foxboro. And in the end, Alabama’s Mac Jones, a central casting fit for the offense Belichick, Josh McDaniels, Charlie Weis and Bill O’Brien have run the last 20 years, did, indeed, come to them. Had Jones not slipped to No. 15? I don’t know what the Patriots would’ve done. Maybe they’d have gotten more aggressive on Garoppolo. I don’t know. But it’s a non-issue now.

So we made no calls to move up to 11, and a team in the top 10 called us and we said "we're good".

Man, that takes brass balls. Once CAR said "we're good" with Darnold, man, I would have given it up to get MJ.

I was pretty freaked when the Jete traded to the pick above us, man I thought they'd pick Jones and have a QB competition just because they could.

Also, CAR came damn close to going with Fields, if so, maybe CHI would have still moved up for MJ:

Carolina went into the night with three guys in mind: Horn, Oregon OT Penei Sewell and Fields. My sense is that Sewell would’ve been the pick had he been there. And since he wasn’t, really it came down to Horn vs. Fields. Horn, the No. 1 guy on the Panthers’ board as they went on the clock, wound up edging out Fields and a couple others, for a number of reasons. One, they needed a starting corner, and thought Horn could clearly be a No. 1. Two, the receivers in the NFC South only highlighted that need in 2020, and probably would’ve again without reinforcements at the positions, with the team’s third-down defense a legit weakness last year. And three, Horn’s an immediate impact pick, and they didn’t want to force more resources into the quarterback position. So Horn was the pick, and as a bonus, the belief is that, in a nice-guy locker room, Horn will bring a little of the sort of edge that GM Scott Fitterer saw in the secondaries he worked with in Seattle.

 

[PittPatriot]

BB cool as cucumber. Nicely played, QB in the 1st made most sense looking at the roster and they didnt even have to pay.
Im comfortable coming through Saban's blatant intel only BB had..

Do you think Saban’s Intel left BB wanting Jones so bad he was willing to see if other teams passed him up and he would be available at 15?

 

[Uptown]

Honestly, I like the name as well. Mac Jones..

 

[Uptown]

Edit: 55TDs/7 INTs

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[jah]

I almost wonder if there is a little bit of "market inefficiency" at work here. Everybody is rushing to get the next "athlete-quarterback" and Belichick is waiting for the pocket passer to drop to him.

That was my thought this morning as well. I was thinking Jones might have been a top 5 pick in either a weaker QB class or an era where pocket passers were more highly coveted.

 

[Bill Lee]

Curran suggests the Pats put out the story they wanted Fields to trigger CHI to move up and take him, leaving the path clear for us to get MJ:

Curran: Mac Jones was exactly what the Patriots needed

The Patriots played their cards perfectly in Round 1 of the 2021 NFL Draft to land a future quarterback who seems to be the right fit at the right time, writes our Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsports.com

Some other bits I found interesting:

For the Patriots, Jones is a tidy fit. At the worst, he’ll keep his hands at 10 and 2 while steering Josh McDaniels’ offense. He doesn’t bring the “He could make something happen…!” threat that a Fields, Lance or Newton would on a third-and-6 when everyone’s covered and protection is crumbling. But he's also a better bet to hit James White between the 2 and the 8 and not in the shoelaces than Newton proved to be in 2020.

When and if it becomes clear that Jones can deliver the ball to Jonnu Smith, Hunter Henry, Nelson Agholor, Kendrick Bourne, etc. more accurately and predictably than Newton, the party will be over for Cam as the starter. And despite Belichick’s attempt to ward off daily questions about the position by peeing on Newton’s territory Thursday night, it’s coming.

Perhaps the best aspect of Newton’s presence is that Jones is succeeding him and not Brady. Newton already took the slings and arrows -- very capably, I might add -- of being the Brady successor. Jones will be replacing a washed-up Newton, not the greatest quarterback of all-time. That’s not unimportant.

But the upshot of Thursday is the Patriots did something at the quarterback position that’s representative of a long-term plan. When the rest of the AFC East's quarterbacks were Josh Allen, Tua Tagovailoa and Sam Darnold (now Zach Wilson) and the Patriots' were Stidham and Newton, it was clear the Patriots weren’t even in the game.

Now they are.

I'm not thinking we'll be winning the division or the conference this year, but it does feel the rebuild has taken a huge step forward.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I remember it was the year 2000 and this exact same garbage was being spewed. Only thing missing was the moronic blogs and opinion pieces about "the end of the pocket passer" but you'd hear about it on ESPN roundtables and during the draft. This is one reason why Tom Brady was so overlooked...because at that time the goal was to find the next great mobile quarterback. Some of those guys drafted above Brady were dual threats.

There was the Favre/Bledsoe burst where everyone was looking for the next gunslinger. Then this snapped back when Rick Mirer busted, Bledsoe started sucking, Tim Couch busted, Heath Shuler busted, Ryan Leaf busted, Peyton Manning struggled early in his career, and you had Steve Young, the 1998 rejuvenated Randall Cunningham, finally champion John Elway, and Steve McNair as successful mobile QBs. And during that time, teams started looking at the scramblers again, culminating with Michael Vick in 2002.

All that said, Mac Jones is more likely to be a bust than a success. That's just the way the market works. In the NFL, you have 32 teams and only 32 starting QB slots. You're not just competing against the defenses but also against the competition from your own draft, from previous drafts, and soon from future drafts. Almost every guy faces long odds due to that fact alone...for every potential open spot, there are a handful of very talented guys coming out of college. But if Jones is a bust, it isn't because his "lack of mobility" is the reason.

 

[slash83]

I kinda wanted Justin Fields I guess all the patriots pre draft talk hyped me up. I don’t follow college football much so I don’t know much about the prospects but sounds like Jones is a prototypical pocket passer, I’m happy with the pick.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Chills down my spine . F YEAH

 

[Rob0729]

Meanwhile, Brady a-s-s kisser Skip Bayless chimes in...

Skip may want to go back and look at Tom Brady's scouting reports from back in 2000.

 

[resdubwhite]

I for one welcome our new crimson overlord.

 

[sb1]

Skip may want to go back and look at Tom Brady's scouting reports from back in 2000.

This was not exactly a rousing endorsement of Brady even as a 2 time SB winner.

Read the article first and then look at the author's name. LOL.

ESPN.com: Page 2 : The greatest? I'm not convinced

 

[Simpelton]

Do you think Saban’s Intel left BB wanting Jones so bad he was willing to see if other teams passed him up and he would be available at 15?

Not really. He just did the math. X teams wanted quarterbacks in the first round and there were X+1 quarterbacks. Someone was going to fall to him. He probably would have taken whichever it was that fell to 15, it happened to be Jones

That said, I suspect that Bill was hoping it would be Jones, since his style is familiar and his weaknesses might be fixable with team structure, something the Patriots excel at.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I am so psyched about this pick. If Mac studies like a maniac this could be Pats-Bucs Feb'22

 

[Rob0729]

This was not exactly a rousing endorsement of Brady even as a 2 time SB winner.

Read the article first and then look at the author's name. LOL.

ESPN.com: Page 2 : The greatest? I'm not convinced

I was going to say that if they cloned Brady and the Pats drafted a 21 year old clone of Brady, Bayless would trash the pick. This article backs up that theory.