Patriots working on a contract with Jimmy G?

[DropKickFlutie]

If we have a deal for JG before we're on the clock, then we're not drafting a QB. Jimmy would be a 5 year plan. He's only 29 1/2. I think the cost would be something like a 4th this year and a 4th next year. Jimmy signs for 5 years/$100m with $50m guaranteed. We pursue Waddle in the 1st round as a JE replacement. Cam is our backup, where he also plays 4-8 snaps a game.

This sounds reasonable except for the 1st pick. Should go defense, Zaven Collins or Horn. We already have 5 expensive pass catchers now.

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[Wozzy]

and? you don't think SF won't have to eat any part of Jimmy's contract? you think he's going to cost a 2nd round pick AND cost 25 million a season? wish I could get odds on this, I'd bet the house AGAINST it

If they work out an extension, a sign and trade is not difficult. San Francisco just wants out from under his contract now that they've traded everything to grab another one. Shanahan never wanted Jimmy to begin with, he had to be talked into it by Lynch.

New England won't trade for Jimmy unless the contract is favorable. The dead cap hit for the 49ers to cut Jimmy outright is nothing, 2.8 million, they could cut him tommorow and not bat an eyelash. They've been posturing about getting a first but that's a joke, when it comes down to it they'll take whatever the market dictates. Jimmy has a no trade clause, he can veto any deal so the 49ers have to play ball with him. He probably has a small list of teams he'll go to. The 49ers will be lucky to get anything for him but BB won't hold them over a barrel.

 

[mgteich]

If they work out an extension, a sign and trade is not difficult. San Francisco just wants out from under his contract now that they've traded everything to grab another one. Shanahan never wanted Jimmy to begin with, he had to be talked into it by Lynch.

New England won't trade for Jimmy unless the contract is favorable. The dead cap hit for the 49ers to cut Jimmy outright is nothing, 2.8 million, they could cut him tommorow and not bat an eyelash. They've been posturing about getting a first but that's a joke, when it comes down to it they'll take whatever the market dictates. Jimmy has a no trade clause, he can veto any deal so the 49ers have to play ball with him. He probably has a small list of teams he'll go to. The 49ers will be lucky to get anything for him but BB won't hold them over a barrel.

My guess is that biggest stumbling block is getting Jimmy to agree to a contract at less than half of his current contract.

 

[Username]

Garropolo is a waste of resources. You can't make any progress with a QB who misses half the year, every year...

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Garropolo is a waste of resources. You can't make any progress with a QB who misses half the year, every year...

I prefer to see Jimmy G for half a year than Cam Newton for a all year

 

[VJCPatriot]

Don't forget that the 49ers are drafting a ROOKIE QB at #3. There's no reason to rush the rookie when you already have a sunken cost in JG. They are never going to get equal value for JG because 1) They have no leverage 2) JG is injury prone 3) Nobody will take JG's current contract as it is 4) JG has a no trade clause. JG can simply sit tight. If the 49ers cut him, then he becomes FREE to choose whatever team he wants, and that means new bonus money with a new contract, which his agent would love. If they don't cut him. He makes 25m dollars a year. EZ decision. Sit tight.

 

[Ollie]

I prefer to see Jimmy G for half a year than Cam Newton for a all year

If we get Jimmy G it's going to be very likely that you will get to see cam play for half a year. I can't believe that BB goes for a player with that injury record. Seems crazy to me

 

[Ollie]

I see this as the patriots just ensuring that they are doing their homework and keeping all options in play as we head into the draft. They just need to know whether the contract can be reworked, if it can't then it's not an option.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

If we get Jimmy G it's going to be very likely that you will get to see cam play for half a year. I can't believe that BB goes for a player with that injury record. Seems crazy to me

If we get Jimmy Cam is as good as gone

 

[Triumph]

Were doomed.

Belichick is stubborn and wants to prove to Kraft that he was right drafting GQ and never wanting to part with him. After watching GQs career from afar, I predicted these events months ago. GQ finally wore his welcome out in San Fran. Even during his Super Bowl best season, GQ was a glorified game manager. GQ completed 6 passes for 77 yards in the NFCC vs Green Bay.

BB was just waiting for the opportunity to bring his Son home.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Belichick is stubborn and wants to prove to Kraft that he was right drafting GQ and never wanting to part with him. After watching GQs career from afar, I predicted these events months ago. GQ finally wore his welcome out in San Fran. Even during his Super Bowl best season, GQ was a glorified game manager. GQ completed 6 passes for 77 yards in the NFCC vs Green Bay.

BB was just waiting for the opportunity to bring his Son home.

Like Brady was in 2018, and 2019.

 

[ToonPatriot]

Laughed at this a lot, even though I’d take Jones at 15

 

[moosekill]

Lots of really stupid comments in this thread last night. 1. Patriots can’t afford JG with his current contract and their current cap situation. If any of this is true, the Patriots would have to restructure his contract before they could trade for him. 2. SF has three choices, keep him for $25 mil, trade him to a team he agrees to go to, where he would require a reworked contract because he has a no trade clause and can invoke it if the other team doesn’t rework his contract, or cut him where they get nothing except salary cap relief. 3. Dale Arnold is a nice guy and knows hockey but isn’t really a hard hitting journalist with lots of connections, doesn’t mean he is wrong, but certainly doesn’t mean he is accurate.

 

[DarrylS]

"Injury prone Garoppolo" is interesting, considering that he has had two serious injuries in SF a torn ACL and a high ankle sprain, much of this sounds like sports talk radio BS... both injuries are common in the NFL.

The way this is being made out is that JG is somehow doing this on purpose..

I am not a huge fan of bringing JG back to the Pats as the top 5 QB's seem to be better choices, but if they do somehow pull this off with a reasonable contract then they could bring in a Mond, Trask etc later on.

 

[moosekill]

Truthfully at this point I would be surprised if the pats bring in JG. I think regardless of what Ring says, Bill is happy with Cam there for a year or two as a mentor type for a rookie and I think they will move up and draft a rookie. Right now I am feeling Trey lance .

 

[Nunchucks]

If the price is right, such as a 3rd or 2nd next years is fine with me for Jimmy g. They still can draft a qb like Mond or Mills, draft a top talent and then cut Cam.

That is way better than starting Cam and drafting Fields or Lance.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

JimmyG would be a nice move. He is an excellent QB (when on the field). This would be the ideal scenario for the Patriots; get JimmyG for a second or third and use the remaining picks for the best available player instead of sacrificing a ton of draft capital to move up. In this scenario, the Patriots stay at 15 and get a blue chip prospect in the first round. CB? DE? WR? Not sure but there will be plenty to choose from.

 

[RIpats88]

Not saying Jeff Howe is wrong but I bet the patriots are exploring several fronts right now to upgrade the QB position including Jimmy G. What if the price to move up becomes too high, then they may stay put or trade down and get Jimmy G and a lower ranked prospect.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[scott99]

This sounds reasonable except for the 1st pick. Should go defense, Zaven Collins or Horn. We already have 5 expensive pass catchers now.

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We need a #1 receiver. Nobody on this team is a #1 receiver. All of our receivers are #3 type receivers. Not sold on Waddle, but love his speed and explosiveness.

 

[Rob0729]

How on earth are you guys calculating Jimmy is worth a low level draft pick? I’d be surprised if he could be exchanged for a second round pick. Maybe Jimmy and a mid round for a first. He has a career QB rating of 98.9 and a 24-8 record. How does that warrant less than Sam Darnold? And if a team (apparently our team) is balking at a $25M contract, they’re completely clueless and unrealistic.

Because he has been with the 49ers for three and a half seasons and during that time he has missed 23 games during that time due to injuries. Add the two games he missed as Patriots starter and he has missed more games due to injury (26) than he has career wins (23). In the full three years as a starter for the 9ers, he played 25 out of 48 games. That is why his value is low.

Darnold has more long term upside than Garoppolo. Darnold's problems could be more about the talent around him and the coaching rather than his talent. Garoppolo's problem is he can't stay on the field due to injuries.

The Pats cannot count on Garoppolo being the starting QB for more than a year or two. If they trade for Garoppolo, they still probably need to get a QB in the first or second round this year. Garoppolo is nothing more than a stop gap since he is likely to be out of the league in a few years due to all the injuries.