OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[VectorPrime]

One thing I admire is his ability to navigate certain questions carefully on the spot. There's no way I could do that. I'd be viral hot take after hot take.

The only time this bit him in the ass is when he was thrown under the bus a couple days after deflategate broke and he did a half hour press conference where to the question of “are you a cheater” came up he said “I really don’t think so” because he basically still had no idea what the hell was happening.

 

[RicoG]

So weird to see Bill at #18. It is starting to become crystal clear why Brady chose Tampa Bay. He must have been following Licht and his great roster building the last several years and knew the talent was there. I would imagine Arians was the last piece to sell him wanting to go there.

Tampa did what I've seen many times done in other sports to win a championship. They developed home grown talent, young and with additional upside. They got the coaches to help put it together. They released the dead weight (Winston). They brought in other established talent. Tampa went hunting for a leader and a closer. Once they set their eyes on Brady, it was a done deal.

NE was the opposite situation. They were already winning with their established stars, but they barely had any drafted up and comers contributing to those wins. The weak drafting year over year foreshadowed the end of the 2014 to 2019 run. Gronk retiring was the beginning of the end. Tom leaving was the official end of it.

 

[1960Pats]

One thing I admire is his ability to navigate certain questions carefully on the spot. There's no way I could do that. I'd be viral hot take after hot take.

In 21 years I can only think of a couple of things that he said that he shouldn't have, and even those are borderline. One was when he said that he hates the Jets and the other was when he snickered at the suggestion that the Pats wouldn't score more than 17 points in the 2007 SB.

He seems to be better at avoiding real answers than Belichick by doing it in a nicer way. He kills them with a smile, not a scowl.

 

[amfootball]

In 21 years I can only think of a couple of things that he said that he shouldn't have, and even those are borderline. One was when he said that he hates the Jets and the other was when he snickered at the suggestion that the Pats wouldn't score more than 17 points in the 2007 SB.

He seems to be better at avoiding real answers than Belichick by doing it in a nicer way. He kills them with a smile, not a scowl.

Also, saying the Ravens needed to learn the rules after the divisional round win was also not one of his finer moments and that kicked off Harbaugh's deflategate nonsense.

 

[amfootball]

Tampa did what I've seen many times done in other sports to win a championship. They developed home grown talent, young and with additional upside. They got the coaches to help put it together. They released the dead weight (Winston). They brought in other established talent. Tampa went hunting for a leader and a closer. Once they set their eyes on Brady, it was a done deal.

NE was the opposite situation. They were already winning with their established stars, but they barely had any drafted up and comers contributing to those wins. The weak drafting year over year foreshadowed the end of the 2014 to 2019 run. Gronk retiring was the beginning of the end. Tom leaving was the official end of it.

Good summary of both teams. The issue with the Pats is we really did not extend anyone from the 2010s. So on top of drafting poorly we also let a lot of talent walk out the door - Jones, Collins, Flowers, Butler, Cooks, etc. It was a deadly combo, we let go of the talent we had drafted and then didn't replace them in the future drafts.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

In 21 years I can only think of a couple of things that he said that he shouldn't have, and even those are borderline. One was when he said that he hates the Jets and the other was when he snickered at the suggestion that the Pats wouldn't score more than 17 points in the 2007 SB.

He seems to be better at avoiding real answers than Belichick by doing it in a nicer way. He kills them with a smile, not a scowl.

One thing I still carry with me that i learned from the CEO of a post secondary school, was;

"kill them with kindness"

it really works

 

[sb1]

Also, saying the Ravens needed to learn the rules after the divisional round win was also not one of his finer moments and that kicked off Harbaugh's deflategate nonsense.

I so want the Pats to catch those guys "cheating" sometime.

 

[Tony2046]

Also, saying the Ravens needed to learn the rules after the divisional round win was also not one of his finer moments and that kicked off Harbaugh's deflategate nonsense.

I liked that moment. It was funny as hell. The fact that deflategate even happened exposed harbaby, Shytdell and the league for what it is. A greedy bunch of billionaire bytches and a punk ass puppet.

I'm glad that Deflategate happened because it ended with Brady shoving it right up the league's ass in dramatic fashion. A historic comeback followed by the puppet getting booed right off of the stage.

By the way, Brady is still shoving it up their asses.

 

[Deus Irae]

 

[Deus Irae]

 

[RicoG]

I liked that moment. It was funny as hell. The fact that deflategate even happened exposed harbaby, Shytdell and the league for what it is. A greedy bunch of billionaire bytches and a punk ass puppet.

I'm glad that Deflategate happened because it ended with Brady shoving it right up the league's ass in dramatic fashion. A historic comeback followed by the puppet getting booed right off of the stage.

By the way, Brady is still shoving it up their asses.

It's crazy to say but I think history will show that what Goodell, the Colts, and the Ravens tried to do to Brady not only backfired, but reinvigorated him. It gave Brady the drive and focus to propel him back to being at least a top 3 QB which was a huge factor in NE getting out of their SB drought.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

It's crazy to say but I think history will show that what Goodell, the Colts, and the Ravens tried to do to Brady not only backfired, but reinvigorated him. It gave Brady the drive and focus to propel him back to being at least a top 3 QB which was a huge factor in NE getting out of their SB drought.

They don't care once Brady left the Pats.

.

 

[RIpats88]

So the Bucs are opting out of voluntary OTAs because it's "unsafe due to covid" but then having private workouts with Brady? How is that safer?

Or how were the Patriots workouts in california safer?

Just shows the NFLPA boycotting the OTAs is one big joke.

 

[gobesmug]

So the Bucs are opting out of voluntary OTAs because it's "unsafe due to covid" but then having private workouts with Brady? How is that safer?

Or how were the Patriots workouts in california safer?

Just shows the NFLPA boycotting the OTAs is one big joke.

There is a big difference between getting together with about 10 people outdoors, as opposed to getting inside a building with over 100 people when you include all players, coaches, and staffing of the building.

The players opted out because the NFL never reached an agreement with the NFLPA as to what would be a safe way to carry it out.

 

[Deus Irae]

 

[Deus Irae]

There is a big difference between getting together with about 10 people outdoors, as opposed to getting inside a building with over 100 people when you include all players, coaches, and staffing of the building.

The players opted out because the NFL never reached an agreement with the NFLPA as to what would be a safe way to carry it out.

The players are opting out because they want to completely overhaul the NFL offseason. And they're not even trying to hide it.

... But if the NFLPA had its way, this offseason — and every other future offseason — would look a lot like last offseason when everything was virtual. Players would not have to show up in person until training camp...

NFLPA: Players would be “better off” with elimination of all offseason work

 

[VectorPrime]

They don't care once Brady left the Pats.

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I mean a lot of it is corporate grab ass but it really seems that Brady and Goodell are in a pretty cordial relationship now. Honestly I think Brady actually holds more of grudge over Belichick going “go ask Tom about the balls” and we know for a fact from the released emails that Brady’s friend outright told him that Belichick just threw him under the bus and dropped the whole mess in his lap. He definitely wasn’t happy with Kraft either after his whole Best Thing for the 32 stuff but behind the scenes I think Kraft really tried for a long time to repair that relationship and I don’t think there was any ill will by the victory over Atlanta.

 

[gobesmug]

The players are opting out because they want to completely overhaul the NFL offseason. And they're not even trying to hide it.





NFLPA: Players would be “better off” with elimination of all offseason work

I agree with that for sure. The excuse they are making is legit.

 

[amfootball]

I mean a lot of it is corporate grab ass but it really seems that Brady and Goodell are in a pretty cordial relationship now. Honestly I think Brady actually holds more of grudge over Belichick going “go ask Tom about the balls” and we know for a fact from the released emails that Brady’s friend outright told him that Belichick just threw him under the bus and dropped the whole mess in his lap. He definitely wasn’t happy with Kraft either after his whole Best Thing for the 32 stuff but behind the scenes I think Kraft really tried for a long time to repair that relationship and I don’t think there was any ill will by the victory over Atlanta.

Brady also knows Goodell is just a puppet for the owners.

 

[Kontradiction]