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Him: Pats would get beat
Me: No they wouldn't. Let's bet on that
Him: ............

I was right. He was wrong. This has 0 to do with you




Oh one more thing..Who threw those 2 INTs that put the Pats in that hole? Funny how I get **** in here from Kontradummy about my present day takes on Brady yet there I was backing Brady back when he was saying Brady couldn't beat them.

Hypocrisy is overflowing in this thread


Brady threw two picks against Seattle in SB49, so therefore I’m a hypocrite. Got it. Because, you know, I’ve been blaming Belichick for those two picks. You win again.

Take your discussion private it you don’t want others to comment.
 
Him: Pats would get beat
Me: No they wouldn't. Let's bet on that
Him: ............

I was right. He was wrong. This has 0 to do with you




Oh one more thing..Who threw those 2 INTs that put the Pats in that hole? Funny how I get **** in here from Kontradummy about my present day takes on Brady yet there I was backing Brady back when he was saying Brady couldn't beat them.

Hypocrisy is overflowing in this thread

Where did I say they’d get beat? I said they match up well and they were the team in the NFC I would have least liked to see. I was right about everything but it being a defensive contest ala 2018. You just didn’t know enough about football to actually debate the point with me, so you said “wAnNa bEt?” LOL at “Kontradummy,” though. Awful attempt at an insult. Please don’t try to be funny again. You’re only funny when you’re not trying to be, and that’s because most of us are laughing at you and not with you.

Be honest with the rest of us - you found that post the other day, realized you were wrong about the whole “bet” thing and I was right, then dropped it in hopes I would forget about it. That’s what happened, isn’t it? And, for the record, please stop pretending you’re a Pats fan. You’re as transparent as they come. The only reason you root for this team is because of who is coaching them which is... very weird. That’s why you display all kinds of small **** energy anytime BB’s legacy/record/etc without Brady is brought up.
 
Brady threw two picks against Seattle in SB49, so therefore I’m a hypocrite. Got it. Because, you know, I’ve been blaming Belichick for those two picks. You win again.

Take your discussion private it you don’t want others to comment.
“You ****ed out on a bet on a football message board 7 years ago.”

 
Tomorrow is the 14th conference champion Brady is playing in of 19 years as the starter. That's almost 75%. Amazing.
 
I think TB matches up really well against GB. Their defense is peaking at the right time. They have all their key guys all playing together since early in the season.

The TB O should feast on the GB D after facing 2 top defenses in Washington and NO.

I predict TB gets over 30 points and wins in a two score game
 
The draft trades that shape tomorrow’s games are really interesting, especially how they tie in to each other and the Patriots. Imagine how different this weekend would be if the Chiefs hadn’t traded up for Mahomes in 2017.

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In 2017, the Bills held the 10th overall pick. The Saints held the 11th pick and by all accounts were going to draft Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs traded up from 27th to 10th and drafted Mahomes, in exchange for the 27th pick, the 91st pick, and a 2018 first round pick.

The Bills used the 27th pick on Tre’Davious White and next year’s first rounder on Tremaine Edmunds, two star players.

The Saints picked Marshon Lattimore at #11 after missing on Mahomes. This is thought to have nixed their interest in trading for Malcolm Butler. Butler would go on to be benched in SB52, and there’s speculation that game affected Tom Brady’s relationship with the Patriots (but hey, let’s just have fun with this and embrace the dramatic license rather than having an angry debate.) Brady later shocked the sporting world and left the Patriots. (See next.)

Since Mahomes went to the Chiefs, the Saints instead extended and committed to Drew Brees. During the 2020 offseason, Brady and the Saints were heading towards an agreement when Brees decided to play another season. Brady signed with the Bucs instead.

Meanwhile, the Bills had passed on Mahomes and had the 12th pick in the 2018 draft and needed a quarterback. The Bills traded up with the Bucs, to 6th overall, and drafted Josh Allen, in exchange for the #12 overall pick, 53rd, and 55th pick.

The Bucs used the the #12 pick to draft Vita Vea and then Carlton Davis in the second round.

Perhaps regretting missing on Mahomes, the Saints got very aggressive and traded up to obtain the #14 overall pick from the Packers to select Marcus Davenport. The Packers received the #27 overall pick and the Saints 2019 first round pick. The move had a big negative impact on the Saints and positive impact on the Packers.

The Packers packaged the #27 pick obtained from the Saints to move back into the first round and selected Jaire Alexander at #18 and Darnell Savage in the first round in 2019.
 


Auman also made a comment that elevating that guy from the practice squad doesn’t mean Winfield is out but makes sense in case he is.
 
In the 'I can't believe what I just heard department' did you know that Brady and Rodgers are a combined 80 years old and together have won 7 rings? Are these clowns serious? That number of titles is the same as Brady and Flacco, Brady and Warner, Brady and Trent Dilfer and many more. If we break down that total by percentages then Brady has won 86% of their titles.

But why stop there?

Together this will be their 19th conference title game (14-5, 64% Brady)
Together they have 10 Conference titles (9-1, 90% Brady)
They have a combined 56 4th quarter comebacks (39-17, 70% Brady)
And they have 73 game winning drives (48-25, 66% Brady)

I don't care much for the NFC or for Aaron Rodgers and this kind of nonsense is why. Rodgers has a long way to go to be compared to Tom Brady or any other all-time great. He can start by not losing his 4th conference game in 5 attempts today. Even if he survives that he'll then have to win another SB. And if he does that he still won't be in Brady's area code.

WTF!?!
 
In the 'I can't believe what I just heard department' did you know that Brady and Rodgers are a combined 80 years old and together have won 7 rings? Are these clowns serious?
It's complicated... the best analysis of this phenomenon came from this particulate media guy... pretty insightful...

 
Just hope the Bucs don’t get blown out and are prepared. Protect TB and plays will be there.
 
Good article from the Post.

Think about what Tom Brady is about to do​

By Steve Serby
January 23, 2021 | 2:36pm

Greatness marches into legendary Lambeau Field, where greatness will be waiting there for him.

Think about what Tom Brady, the Greatest Of All Time, will be trying to do now, with Aaron Rodgers, arguably the Greatest Of This Time, standing in his way — along with all the ghosts of Green Bay Packers’ past, when Brady steps on the field where Lombardi stood as the master of all he surveyed, where winning won’t be everything but it will be the only thing again for Tom Brady as well in this epic NFC Championship gunslinger duel Sunday.

From the time he became Bill Belichick’s quarterback, Brady — whether or not he gets to his 10th Super Bowl in his 14th conference championship game for a chance to hoist his seventh Lombardi Trophy — has already given us, and an exasperated Father Time, yet another reminder us why he is who he is, still, at age 43.

Think about this: TOMpa Brady is 60 minutes from becoming the first quarterback to host a Super Bowl in his home city, and Belichick will be
somewhere watching the AFC Championship instead of “60 Minutes.” (Talk amongst yourselves, as they used to say on Coffee Talk on SNL.)
After all the legacy games pitting Brady against Peyton Manning, Rodgers is every bit the clear and present danger to him, playing the way Rodgers is in a system he has mastered at an MVP and Hall of Fame level, leading as he never has before, more at peace with himself than he has ever been, desperate as he is to capture his second Super Bowl crown at age 37 a decade after his one and only.

But all you need to know about Brady is this: He was a sixth-round draft pick. He has won six Super Bowls.

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night nor a pandemic has stayed Tom Brady, even now, from the swift completion of his appointed rounds … with a new team, a downtrodden, drowning team that asked him to take it to higher ground, with Bruce Arians his new head coach, with new teammates, he has delivered.

The change of scenery, his great escape from Alcatraz Belichick, has invigorated and rejuvenated him, and even if the Fountain of Youth he seemingly has been drinking from spews ice on the visiting sidelines, temperatures will be tolerable in the 20s with little wind, and Brady wouldn’t be the GOAT if he wasn’t a weather-proof and pressure-proof quarterback anyway.

They all have their own horror stories about the wrath of Tom Brady. Packers coach Matt LaFleur was the Falcons quarterbacks coach when Brady brought the Patriots back from a 28-3 deficit in the second half of Super Bowl LI. Brady is 10-3 with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions with an eight-game winning streak against Packers defensive coordinator Mike Pettine — across Pettine’s various jobs with the Jets, Bills and Browns — and hasn’t lost to him since a 2010 playoffs upset to the Jets.

You don’t fool Brady. You try to punch him in the nose for 60 minutes. You try to pressure up the middle and get him off his spot. It’s the same-old song defensive coordinators have been singing off-tune for two decades. He is an anachronism as a statue, but he gets the ball out so damn fast and makes most of the right decisions. Pettine has formidable pass rushers and defensive backs; Brady has trusted bodyguards whose duty is to protect him as if he were the Holy Grail.

Brady beats you more with his mind than with his arm. Rodgers can beat you with his mind, a flick of his wrist, and even his legs at opportune times. He can strike more quickly than Brady. Brady has better receivers, though Antonio Brown (knee) is out. Rodgers has the most explosive receiver (Davante Adams) and running back (Aaron Jones). Brady’s best chance, buoyed by RB Leonard Fournette and possibly Ronald Jones, would seem to be to try to win the time-of-possession battle and keep Rodgers on the sideline.

Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden will have been in office while Brady has played in a conference championship game. He was 9-4 in those games (18 TDs, 14 INTs) alongside Belichick. He will be the first quarterback since the NFL merger to start a conference championship game in three different decades.

Brady’s pretty-boy image took a hit during the Deflategate scandal following the Patriots’ 2015 AFC Championship rout of the Colts, but he did the time — a four-game league suspension — for the crime. And the fact that he is still standing, still GOATing after all these years, after proving to all the doubters that he could divorce Belichick and find love again, till the Super Bowl does he part, has made him more of a sympathetic figure than he was in New England.

Think about this: Michael Jordan won his sixth (and final) championship with the Bulls at age 35. He was no longer Air Jordan when he played the Garden at age 38 as a Washington Wizard hours before Brady won his first title, Super Bowl XXXVI, over the Greatest Show on Turf Rams, at age 24. Now he stands 60 minutes from a chance for his seventh championship. Heir Jordan.

 

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It's complicated... the best analysis of this phenomenon came from this particulate media guy... pretty insightful...


Depending on when that video was made, it actually could be the guy who said it. He sounded just like him.

All kidding aside, that video is a little creepy. I wonder how the kid got that way.
 
Another good reason to vote for a Bucs win today.

bleh. Does this only include the superbowl era? I frankly don't care how many playoff wins they had in 1940. It's like the Montreal Canadians claiming they have 78 stanley cups when most of them were won beating no one and seen by no one.
 
Brady’s pretty-boy image took a hit during the Deflategate scandal following the Patriots’ 2015 AFC Championship rout of the Colts, but he did the time — a four-game league suspension — for the crime.
The only crime here is how a fabricated scandal could do this to his reputation.
 
All kidding aside, that video is a little creepy. I wonder how the kid got that way.
Vegan diet during the formative years
 
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