"Every Little Thing Gonna Be Alright"

[upstater1]

I can't reply in the Post-Game thread because of the overwhelming tide of negativity. There are calls for BB to step down as GM or to revamp scouting or to do something different than what he's done over the last 20 years.

Folks, this is a transition. We've seen this before.

2005. 2010. & now 2020.

Chill out. BB hasn't shown you he knows how to build a roster? How much more does he need to show you? Only difference between 2005 & 2010 & 2020 is Tom Brady. But that doesn't mean 2021 can't be like 2006 or 2011 or 2012 if we get a more competent QB.

The only thing BB needs to do for me is get an NFL good quality starting QB. That's it. Or maybe actually a TE too. The WRs will take care of themselves after that.

Because I'm confident in all these aspects of the team:

1. The RBs with Damien Harris & Taylor, Michel if he's still around, and James White as backup. Jakob Johnson opening holes.
2. The OL has been spectacular. Opening huge running lanes when Ds know they are running it. Protecting Cam--he has all day to throw. All the sacks are on him. Look at that OL: Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Onwenu, Herron backing it up. Great OL.
3. DBs: JC Jackson, Gilmore (he'll be back because of his contract, or he'll be a holdout), D McCourty, J Jones, Myles Bryant, JJ Williams. We have great depth there.
4. Back 7 big safeties and LBs who can cover RBs and TEs: Dugger, Uche, Chung. Hoping Terez Hall can pick up on that end as well.

These are fantastic building blocks, which leads me point #...:

5. We have a ton of salary cap space. A ton. We are going to be buying while other teams are jettisoning solid veteran talent on big contracts. It's going to happen. It has to happen. And because everyone will be up against the cap, the FA market is not going to command huge contracts (which is why I feel confident about retaining Gilmore and Thuney).
6. Yes, we need help at DL (hopefully Jennings will develop), and TE, and WR, and even LB (we need more speed there), but this is what FA and the draft are for.

This is going to be a classic Belichick revamp and I fully expect we'll compete for the division next year & also make the playoffs.

Getting a competent QB is of course crucial to that, but I think Belichick can do that. My only real concern other than QB is TE because unlike the WR position, good TEs aren't abundant. It will take luck to find someone to man that position.

We're OK. BB the GM knows how to build a team. He has shown this repeatedly. We already have a lot of good pieces who are either young or mid career (Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Onwenu, Herron, Taylor, Harris, Myers, maybe Byrd, Jennings, Uche, Dugger, T Hall, JC Jackson, JJ Jones, Phillips, JJ Williams, M Bryant, Bailey). BB can build on the 20 players who are already here.

Jeez, it's one losing season out of 20, and we have the greatest coach and talent assembler of all time.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

I can't reply in the Post-Game thread because of the overwhelming tide of negativity. There are calls for BB to step down as GM or to revamp scouting or to do something different than what he's done over the last 20 years.

Folks, this is a transition. We've seen this before.

2005. 2010. & now 2020.

Chill out. BB hasn't shown you he knows how to build a roster? How much more does he need to show you? Only difference between 2005 & 2010 & 2020 is Tom Brady. But that doesn't mean 2021 can't be like 2006 or 2011 or 2012 if we get a more competent QB.

The only thing BB needs to do for me is get an NFL good quality starting QB. That's it. Or maybe actually a TE too. The WRs will take care of themselves after that.

Because I'm confident in all these aspects of the team:

1. The RBs with Damien Harris & Taylor, Michel if he's still around, and James White as backup. Jakob Johnson opening holes.
2. The OL has been spectacular. Opening huge running lanes when Ds know they are running it. Protecting Cam--he has all day to throw. All the sacks are on him. Look at that OL: Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Onwenu, Herron backing it up. Great OL.
3. DBs: JC Jackson, Gilmore (he'll be back because of his contract, or he'll be a holdout), D McCourty, J Jones, Myles Bryant, JJ Williams. We have great depth there.
4. Back 7 big safeties and LBs who can cover RBs and TEs: Dugger, Uche, Chung. Hoping Terez Hall can pick up on that end as well.

These are fantastic building blocks, which leads me point #:

5. We have a ton of salary cap space. A ton. We are going to be buying while other teams are jettisoning solid veteran talent on big contracts. It's going to happen. It has to happen. And because everyone will be up against the cap, the FA market is not going to comman huge contracts (which is why I feel confident about retaining Gilmore and Thuney).
6. Yes, we need help at DL (hopefully Jennings will develop), and TE, and WR, and even LB (we need more and more speed there), but this is what FA and the draft are for.

This is going to be a classic Belichick revamp and I fully expect we'll compete for the division next year & also make the playoffs.

Getting a competent QB is of course crucial to that, but I think Belichick can do that. My only real concern other than QB is TE because unlike the WR position, good TEs aren't abundant. It will take luck to find someone to man that position.

We're OK. BB the GM knows how to build a team. He has shown this repeatedly. We already have a lot of good pieces who are either young or mid career (Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Onwenu, Herron, Taylor, Harris, Myers, maybe Byrd, Jennings, Uche, Dugger, T Hall, JC Jackson, JJ Jones, Phillips, JJ Williams, M Bryant, Bailey). BB can build on the 20 players who are already here.

Jeez, it's one losing season out of 20, and we have the greatest coach and talent assembler of all time.

I don’t think the cap will go down to 175. It will be around 190 something. Some teams will be bailed out. I don’t think this is a one year turnaround. They need to start hitting on the draft.

 

[Triumph]

 

[PATSNUTme]

I am an optimist by nature. However I do see more than a one year rebuild before we are a legit playoff contender again.

 

[archstanton543]

Tell that to that phone Bill smashed.

 

[ashley]

Take your negativity elsewhere mister...not allowed in here!!!

 

[ashley]

How great has BB been at assembling talent the last 3 years?

Let's make this a positive thread..can you do that? There are plenty of negative threads elsewhere in this forum.

 

[upstater1]

Yes, because the Patriots have a history of losing, like the guy in your picture.

 

[upstater1]

How great has BB been at assembling talent the last 3 years?

Pretty good. BB said it best. 3 SB wins, 4 SBs, 5 CGs, over 5 years. They maxed out the cap. This is the medicine you take after grinding for so long.

 

[203Pat]

See if you can spot the difference between 2005/2010 and now?

 

[upstater1]

Tell that to that phone Bill smashed.

OK, I agree. Because someone incorrectly told Bill to challenge a call, the Patriots are doomed.

 

[sb1]

 

[ashley]

I can't reply in the Post-Game thread because of the overwhelming tide of negativity. There are calls for BB to step down as GM or to revamp scouting or to do something different than what he's done over the last 20 years.

Folks, this is a transition. We've seen this before.

2005. 2010. & now 2020.

Chill out. BB hasn't shown you he knows how to build a roster? How much more does he need to show you? Only difference between 2005 & 2010 & 2020 is Tom Brady. But that doesn't mean 2021 can't be like 2006 or 2011 or 2012 if we get a more competent QB.

The only thing BB needs to do for me is get an NFL good quality starting QB. That's it. Or maybe actually a TE too. The WRs will take care of themselves after that.

Love your positivity and love the post!!!! There are plenty of good things we have going forward. I will try and keep this thread filled with positivity...could be difficult. lol, but if I have to start banning posters from this thread, I will.

 

[upstater1]

See if you can spot the difference between 2005/2010 and now?

What's the difference? It's still BB.

 

[jah]

I wouldn't exactly say Cam has had "all day to throw", but the run blocking has been great. I also don't have nearly the confidence you do about our young defenders; to me, guys like Uche and Dugger could still trend in either direction. A lot can change in just one offseason, however, and like you say, it's very possible things look a lot different with 1-2 solid offseasons.

 

[upstater1]

I wouldn't exactly say Cam has had "all day to throw", but the run blocking has been great. I also don't have nearly the confidence you do about our young defenders; to me, guys like Uche and Dugger could still trend in either direction. A lot can change in just one offseason, however, and like you say, it's very possible things look a lot different with 1-2 solid offseasons.

I'd love to see stats on how long Cam sits in the pocket. To me it really looks like he has an eternity back there.

 

[farn]

See if you can spot the difference between 2005/2010 and now?

I hear you, but in 2005, things were challenging. The D was ravaged and the team was counting on Beisel & al. The team was aging and the weapons on O were few & far... that team was better than this season’s, but I remember thinking in 2005 « that was such a great run ! 3/4 ! »

People don’t remember how many holes the 2005 team had. Again, 2005 > 2020, but there wasn’t reason to believe they’d keep that train rolling as long as they did.

 

[p8ryts]

I can't reply in the Post-Game thread because of the overwhelming tide of negativity. There are calls for BB to step down as GM or to revamp scouting or to do something different than what he's done over the last 20 years.

Folks, this is a transition. We've seen this before.

2005. 2010. & now 2020.

Chill out. BB hasn't shown you he knows how to build a roster? How much more does he need to show you? Only difference between 2005 & 2010 & 2020 is Tom Brady. But that doesn't mean 2021 can't be like 2006 or 2011 or 2012 if we get a more competent QB.

The only thing BB needs to do for me is get an NFL good quality starting QB. That's it. Or maybe actually a TE too. The WRs will take care of themselves after that.

Because I'm confident in all these aspects of the team:

1. The RBs with Damien Harris & Taylor, Michel if he's still around, and James White as backup. Jakob Johnson opening holes.
2. The OL has been spectacular. Opening huge running lanes when Ds know they are running it. Protecting Cam--he has all day to throw. All the sacks are on him. Look at that OL: Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Onwenu, Herron backing it up. Great OL.
3. DBs: JC Jackson, Gilmore (he'll be back because of his contract, or he'll be a holdout), D McCourty, J Jones, Myles Bryant, JJ Williams. We have great depth there.
4. Back 7 big safeties and LBs who can cover RBs and TEs: Dugger, Uche, Chung. Hoping Terez Hall can pick up on that end as well.

These are fantastic building blocks, which leads me point #...:

5. We have a ton of salary cap space. A ton. We are going to be buying while other teams are jettisoning solid veteran talent on big contracts. It's going to happen. It has to happen. And because everyone will be up against the cap, the FA market is not going to command huge contracts (which is why I feel confident about retaining Gilmore and Thuney).
6. Yes, we need help at DL (hopefully Jennings will develop), and TE, and WR, and even LB (we need more speed there), but this is what FA and the draft are for.

This is going to be a classic Belichick revamp and I fully expect we'll compete for the division next year & also make the playoffs.

Getting a competent QB is of course crucial to that, but I think Belichick can do that. My only real concern other than QB is TE because unlike the WR position, good TEs aren't abundant. It will take luck to find someone to man that position.

We're OK. BB the GM knows how to build a team. He has shown this repeatedly. We already have a lot of good pieces who are either young or mid career (Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Onwenu, Herron, Taylor, Harris, Myers, maybe Byrd, Jennings, Uche, Dugger, T Hall, JC Jackson, JJ Jones, Phillips, JJ Williams, M Bryant, Bailey). BB can build on the 20 players who are already here.

Jeez, it's one losing season out of 20, and we have the greatest coach and talent assembler of all time.

I'm with you. Thanks. By the way, you may rival me as the King of Rationalization, but I love it.

 

[203Pat]

What's the difference? It's still BB.

I hear you, but in 2005, things were challenging. The D was ravaged and the team was counting on Beisel & al. The team was aging and the weapons on O were few & far... that team was better than this season’s, but I remember thinking in 2005 « that was such a great run ! 3/4 ! »

People don’t remember how many holes the 2005 team had. Again, 2005 > 2020, but there wasn’t reason to believe they’d keep that train rolling as long as they did.

The most important position in sports wasn't in flux. Brady allowed Bill to rebuild on the fly. Now Bill is going to change his strategy on how he builds a team. In all likelihood the Chris Hogan's and Brandon Lafell's of the world aren't going to cut it anymore. He also won't get higher end players (Moss, AB, Dillon) all happy to come here and take a little less for a chance at a ring. He is going to need to spend more on free agents and also draft significantly better. People are just assuming because it's Bill he can do it but he hasn't really done it before.

 

[Wax Frog]

No @ashley1992 no ban?