OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[203Pat]

The same reasons being used here to minimize Brady's accomplishments apply to the Packers more. The Packers have played the softest schedule in the league by far. Their opponents' combined record is 80-115-1. They only played 3 playoff teams and lost 2, beating NO by 7 in week 3, getting trounced by TB in week 6 and losing a close one to Indy in week 11. Their Titans game this week should give us a better indication of where they are. I like Seattle in the NFC.

That and Aaron Rodgers has a tendency to disappear in big games over the last decade.

 

[1960Pats]

It's not all Bill's fault. Kraft stepped in to keeping Brady over JG the first time. The 2nd time he was too busy at the massage parlor to bother.

I don't think we'll ever know for sure what happened. My belief is that Bill wanted Brady to stay the first time but not the second.

 

[Triumph]

I don't actually believe Stafford > Brady but there's a lot to be said for the franchise players get drafted to.

Kraft is maybe the best owner in sports .. Brady has had elite ownership, great Head Coach, many great rosters ..

I think Brady is great. Not the greatest of all-time.

Name all the HOF WRs, TEs and RBs that Brady played with?

I will help you.
1.
2.
3.
The end.

 

[1960Pats]

I see the guy that undeservingly got the prowbowl over Brady is playing clutch fb for the comeback. Not.

Oh I can just see Brady and TB getting motivated with the pro bowl snub. Only 1 guy got it and they should have had about 5.

I don't follow all the pro bowl and hof bs. It's all politics. Are you talking about Kyler Murray? If so, he played like crap today.

 

[RicoG]

Just wait till the Bucs visit Foxboro next season.

If NE is still rebuilding and Tampa is in the playoff hunt, I can see people cheering for Brady over NE.

 

[Triumph]

That's a bit harsh considering his sole purpose here is to antagonize people. He's clearly not serious, nobody really thinks Stafford is better than Brady. Nor can anyone even seriously argue any QB over Brady at this point. The only debate left is who's the GOAT of all professional sports... Ruth, Jordan, Gretzky or Brady?

I hate to admit it but, It has to be Ruth.

 

[1960Pats]

Name all the HOF WRs, TEs and RBs that Brady played with?

I will help you.
1.
2.
3.
The end.

Why does everyone feel the need to respond to the trolls? More than half the posts here are responses to those dipsticks.

 

[carmelo15]

I don't actually believe Stafford > Brady but there's a lot to be said for the franchise players get drafted to.

Kraft is maybe the best owner in sports .. Brady has had elite ownership, great Head Coach, many great rosters ..

I think Brady is great. Not the greatest of all-time.

y’all still responding to this guy come on man his troll job isn’t even average

 

[TheRainMaker]

The theme for the Bucs this season has been to beatdown the crappy teams but get beatdown by the better teams. We'd be talking a different story had Brady not made that goof against Chicago and letting both Chicago and LA hang around. They could be sitting a top of the NFC right now.

With that being said, watching Brady throw now 36 TD passes still pisses me off that he's in another uniform and all the blame goes on BB as this was years in the making. 2019 was the nail in the coffin as the cupboard became bare at the offensive skill positions. The pointless 2nd pick of JoJuan Williams is looking really terrible as each week passes as that should've been devoted to another WR/TE. They were loaded in the secondary, but Bill just couldn't help himself. Only taking Harry upsets me more than the pick itself. Not only did your team need more than one WR, but you should never just rely on that pick. And then he ignores it again in this draft.

Brady and Bill should've never parted ways as they were better off together. But it's hard to stay if you're Brady when the GM was just not getting anymore.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The debate is between Babe Ruth and Bill Russell.

Muhammad Ali? Or is it only team sports?

Ali and Ruth are two biggest outliers (with longevity too) in American sports.

 

[stcjones]

I’m hoping that Brady and O are starting to get more on the same page each week?! Not sure how any TRUE Patriot fans can vote against Tom Brady still! I will always love Brady and still enjoy watching him play....definitely difficult that it’s not in a Pats uniform....but still incredible watching the greatest of all time...and knowing he will ALWAYS (HOF anyways) be a PATRIOT!!!

 

[upstater1]

If NE is still rebuilding and Tampa is in the playoff hunt, I can see people cheering for Brady over NE.

No

 

[moejr]

The theme for the Bucs this season has been to beatdown the crappy teams but get beatdown by the better teams. We'd be talking a different story had Brady not made that goof against Chicago and letting both Chicago and LA hang around. They could be sitting a top of the NFC right now.

With that being said, watching Brady throw now 36 TD passes still pisses me off that he's in another uniform and all the blame goes on BB as this was years in the making. 2019 was the nail in the coffin as the cupboard became bare at the offensive skill positions. The pointless 2nd pick of JoJuan Williams is looking really terrible as each week passes as that should've been devoted to another WR/TE. They were loaded in the secondary, but Bill just couldn't help himself. Only taking Harry upsets me more than the pick itself. Not only did your team need more than one WR, but you should never just rely on that pick. And then he ignores it again in this draft.

Brady and Bill should've never parted ways as they were better off together. But it's hard to stay if you're Brady when the GM was just not getting anymore.

Brady is doing better without Bill than Bill is without Brady. However Tampa Bay gave Brady the weapons he craved. When TB's O-Line holds up Brady does well. That to me is going to be the key to there playoffs. TB's Defense and O-Line need to play top notch.

 

[RicoG]

I don't follow all the pro bowl and hof bs. It's all politics. Are you talking about Kyler Murray? If so, he played like crap today.

Yes it's Murray. Mobile QB are all the rage these days. The NFL loves them. They keep on changing the rules to make it easier for them.

Another overrated player is Lamar Jackson. He might not even get the chance to go one and done three years in a row.

 

[catent]

I’m hoping that Brady and O is starting to get more on the same page each week?! Not sure how any TRUE Patriot fan can vote against Tom Brady

Ah yes, the age old phrase, "true fan". In this case accentuated via all-caps, "TRUE fan". As if there is some objective standard, purity test, for who is/isn't a fan of a given team. Seems kind of silly to me.

But, I get it, Brady did a lot here and it makes sense to root for his continued success. From afar, it seems he could've invested a bit more in the young receivers during his last season here (Meyers in particular), but I also understand (to a certain extent) his frustration and impatience with the lack of talented/productive receiving options. Oh well ... priorities change as folks move through life and Brady is no different; his career is nearing its finale and he wants to put himself in the best position for personal success in order to cement his legacy - I get it.

Not surprised the Bucs beat up on a bad Lions team. We'll see how they fare against stronger opponents in the postseason.

I really didn't know how I'd react as a fan to Brady leaving after it immediately happened. Once the games came on, I found it really hard to feel at all attached to the Bucs' success. They're just not my team, and as happy as I am for everything Brady did here, I don't find myself compelled to root for him when he's wearing a Bucs' uniform. That said, I certainly don't hold any ill-will towards those that do continue to root for him and feel personally attached to his performance.

 

[Kontradiction]

Last 6 games since that New Orleans debacle: 16 TDs, 4 INTs.

 

[Boomer B]

Last 6 games since that New Orleans debacle: 16 TDs, 4 INTs.

Turning it on as he becomes more comfortable in the system and with his teammates. In the 3 games since the bye week. 8 TDs 0 INTs.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Peaking at the right time? Im feeling pretty excited about Tom in the playoffs

 

[Kontradiction]

Ah yes, the age old phrase, "true fan". In this case accentuated via all-caps, "TRUE fan". As if there is some objective standard, purity test, for who is/isn't a fan of a given team. Seems kind of silly to me.

But, I get it, Brady did a lot here and it makes sense to root for his continued success. From afar, it seems he could've invested a bit more in the young receivers during his last season here (Meyers in particular), but I also understand (to a certain extent) his frustration and impatience with the lack of talented/productive receiving options. Oh well ... priorities change as folks move through life and Brady is no different; his career is nearing its finale and he wants to put himself in the best position for personal success in order to cement his legacy - I get it.

Not surprised the Bucs beat up on a bad Lions team. We'll see how they fare against stronger opponents in the postseason.

I really didn't know how I'd react as a fan to Brady leaving after it immediately happened. Once the games came on, I found it really hard to feel at all attached to the Bucs' success. They're just not my team, and as happy as I am for everything Brady did here, I don't find myself compelled to root for him when he's wearing a Bucs' uniform. That said, I certainly don't hold any ill-will towards those that do continue to root for him and feel personally attached to his performance.

Nobody cares.

 

[Brewskies]

If NE is still rebuilding and Tampa is in the playoff hunt, I can see people cheering for Brady over NE.

Those that would cheer for Brady vs the Pats in the same game are not Pats' fans. Simple.