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Scoring defense is a ridiculous stat, it's greatly helped by having an elite offense that never turns the ball over. In Brady's 18 seasons in NE, only twice did the defense rank higher than the offense by DVOA and he took the 31st ranked defense by DVOA to the Super Bowl not once, but twice. Do your ****ing homework before spouting this drivel.
Please stop the name calling.
 
Okay, this is the worst post I've read on this forum. Clearly trolling Brady supporters. Obviously a loser. Probably a Peyton Manning fan... the most pathetic and insecure group of people you'll ever encounter. They just can't accept that Brady blew past Manning like 6 years ago, even before the Atlanta comeback and 6th ring.
Not a Peyton fan but Peyton is a better player than Brady .. I mean, Matt Stafford is better than Brady .. why did NE start winning right as the U.S. Patriot Act went in effect?
 
The Saints games were awful. I give him a bit of a pass on the first game just because there was no preseason. The second game was awful. It happens. The Packers laid an egg vs the Vikings. Seattle laid an egg vs the Giants. The Rams laid an egg vs the Jets.
The Bucs have been very good with penalties for the last 10 weeks or so. Ever since the Bears game. They have been very disciplined just not consistent enough on either side of the ball.

Arians did win a playoff game when he was with the Cards. They played the Panthers in the NFCCG that year.

I agree about the inferior teams. They need to be play better vs the good teams. But that could be said of pretty much every team. The only quality win the Packers have had was vs the Saints. The Saints best wins are the Bucs. Seattle has not really had a signature win as their toughest game was the Rams and they got beaten down only scoring 16. The Bills blew their doors off.
I guess the playoffs will be fun in the NFC....I'm not sure who I'm picking yet...I think a lot of people are sleeping on the Packers....should be fun....I expect most people will pick KC in the AFC...just too talented.
 
Its sad.

Watching pitiful Tommy Brady hang on living in the was. A shell of his former self. Now, he is dragging down another franchise with him. The Pats were smart to get out while they could. He was overated anyway. Good riddance.
 
I guess the playoffs will be fun in the NFC....I'm not sure who I'm picking yet...I think a lot of people are sleeping on the Packers....should be fun....I expect most people will pick KC in the AFC...just too talented.
Yeah. Me either. LOL. If the Bucs don't make it, I am pulling for the Rams.

The AFC is just so much more talented. I would not mind seeing either the Titans or Bills pull through but KC will be tough to beat.
 
Not a Peyton fan but Peyton is a better player than Brady .. I mean, Matt Stafford is better than Brady .. why did NE start winning right as the U.S. Patriot Act went in effect?
Come on. I don't believe in calling people names but when you come on saying Stafford is better than Tom, you're going to lose any credibility.
 
Yeah. Me either. LOL. If the Bucs don't make it, I am pulling for the Rams.

The AFC is just so much more talented. I would not mind seeing either the Titans or Bills pull through but KC will be tough to beat.
Definitely will pull for the Titans...concerned about their defense though....
 
Not a Peyton fan but Peyton is a better player than Brady .. I mean, Matt Stafford is better than Brady .. why did NE start winning right as the U.S. Patriot Act went in effect?
Stafford is good but in no way shape or form is he better than Brady.

And it’s interesting that people talk about Brady benefiting from having a good defense over the years but talk up Manning. The defense of the Colts and Broncos respectively are what got Manning his only two Super Bowl rings.
 
I don't actually believe Stafford > Brady but there's a lot to be said for the franchise players get drafted to.

Kraft is maybe the best owner in sports .. Brady has had elite ownership, great Head Coach, many great rosters ..

I think Brady is great. Not the greatest of all-time.
 
The TB offense looks night and day concept wise the last two halves compare to those loses against NO and LAR
They’ve got Brown fully assimilated, their OL is stabilized, Evans is healthier, and Brady is getting rid of the ball quicker because they’re finally utilizing underneath and intermediate route concepts within the offense.
 
I don't actually believe Stafford > Brady but there's a lot to be said for the franchise players get drafted to.

Kraft is maybe the best owner in sports .. Brady has had elite ownership, great Head Coach, many great rosters ..

I think Brady is great. Not the greatest of all-time.


Hmm. You sure you aren’t from D.C.?
 
I don't actually believe Stafford > Brady but there's a lot to be said for the franchise players get drafted to.

Kraft is maybe the best owner in sports .. Brady has had elite ownership, great Head Coach, many great rosters ..

I think Brady is great. Not the greatest of all-time.
Brady has won 6 rings and I think there’s a pretty good chance it will be 7 in a couple of months. No other QB has even 5. That alone makes him greatest of all time.
 
I don't actually believe Stafford > Brady but there's a lot to be said for the franchise players get drafted to.

Kraft is maybe the best owner in sports .. Brady has had elite ownership, great Head Coach, many great rosters ..

I think Brady is great. Not the greatest of all-time.
You think Cam is great. Your credibility is essentially worthless.
 
Yeah. Me either. LOL. If the Bucs don't make it, I am pulling for the Rams.

The AFC is just so much more talented. I would not mind seeing either the Titans or Bills pull through but KC will be tough to beat.
I feel like the Bills are a team that could knock off KC. They have the offense to do it and a defense that could force Mahomes into mistakes.
 
Brady looked incredible today. In fact, if you add the 2nd half of last week, and the 1st half of this week, the equivalence of a full game, Brady threw for 668 yards & 6 tds, that’s insanely great. At age 43 !! How the hell is he doing that ? He’s broken so many records for QBs aged 40+. In fact, he’s the ONLY QB aged 40+ to ever pass for 4000 yards. He’s done it at ages 40, 41, 42 & 43.

The only weakness on that offense seems to be the Oline, but if it gives Brady time, he’s deadly, surgically accurate. That last TD pass of the half was unbelievable, Brown was covered, Brady zipped that in to the smallest of windows.

The Bucs may not win it all, but they sure are gonna be fun to watch. I’m certainly rooting for them all the way.
 
Not a Peyton fan but Peyton is a better player than Brady .. I mean, Matt Stafford is better than Brady .. why did NE start winning right as the U.S. Patriot Act went in effect?

Welcome to wrongville. Holy crap.
 
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