Bench Newton!

[sb1]

We have 12 games of evidence that show than Cam Newton isn’t even worth playing on any team next year but you need 3 more games to see it.

And you criticize everybody who want to see a 4th round pick throw more than 33 passes.

33 passes is enough for you to judge a rookie but 12 games isn’t to evaluate Cam worth. You are completely lacking any credibility.

You're still talking about Stidham? Lol. While the passion for a 4th round never-will-be who will be out of the league in a couple years is admirable in a way, I'd rather see our team win football games.

Cam is our starter. Next year we'll need a bridge QB + a draft prospect, hopefully a high one. I want to see if he's worth keeping as our bridge or if the Pats should look for someone like Fitz while our newly drafted QB sits and learns.

 

[DaBruinz]

You're still talking about Stidham? Lol. While the passion for a 4th round never-will-be who will be out of the league in a couple years is admirable in a way, I'd rather see our team win football games.

Cam is our starter. Next year we'll need a bridge QB + a draft prospect, hopefully a high one. I want to see if he's worth keeping as our bridge or if the Pats should look for someone like Fitz while our newly drafted QB sits and learns.

It's AMAZING how you have become Ms. Cleo and seem to know exactly how players will develop.. So, please, tell us the winning lottery numbers and who the Patriots will be drafting come May and what their record will be next season.

OH. Wait.. You can't do that because you aren't clairvoyant. You don't seem to understand that Stidham is only a 2nd year player and that your the one with ridiculous expectations regarding the kid. The fact that you have already decided that he'll never amount to anything after just 18 months is astounding.

 

[lancerman]

He has more rushing TD than our running back not because our running back can’t play but because we always call plays for him in the RZ. 10 of his 11 TDs have come at or inside the 5 and like 6 were at the 1. You tell me than Our running wouldn’t score if we are calling plays for them in those spot?

If we had a QB than can throw the ball at least physically you convert a part of his 11 TDS with pass and the other with running back. Cam has 16 total TD in 12 games. A QB that can throw the ball could have 16+ total TD in 12 games. Even Brady at 43 has 3 rushing TD.

I can argue that a QB that can throw the ball will benefit the Offense more than Cam running ability. Because now everyone is focus on stopping the run because we only have that. If you can throw the ball it will automatically open up the run game. I am not saying that Stidham will throw 350 3 TD 0 picks everygame but I think he can throw for more than 100-150 yards per game which is basically the Cam production (100 yards passing, 0-50 running). And Stidham can scramble so he can pickup 10-20 yards running per game at least on scramble.

When a QB has more rush TD’s than the rest of your team combined and is second in rushing yards.... AND is historically the most productive rushing QB ever... you are not going to replicate his production by having a non run QB and the rest of the RB’s compensating.

Yes if we had a QB who could completely pass we’d be better in the passing game slightly but still be hampered by talent. People called Brady washed because of the talent here last year. Stidham is not going to do that. Aside from a game where he threw 2 passes in garbage time against a crap team, Cam has always looked better. So the fact is based off all the information we have Stidham is not better than Cam passing and certainly not enough to justify what we lost on the run.

So you are asking everyone to have blind faith that we are all wrong with him based off what we’ve seen and what the coaches have shown in order to justify a change that will hurt the run AND effect the locker room

 

[Toofy]

When a QB has more rush TD’s than the rest of your team combined and is second in rushing yards.... AND is historically the most productive rushing QB ever... you are not going to replicate his production by having a non run QB and the rest of the RB’s compensating.

Yes if we had a QB who could completely pass we’d be better in the passing game slightly but still be hampered by talent. People called Brady washed because of the talent here last year. Stidham is not going to do that. Aside from a game where he threw 2 passes in garbage time against a crap team, Cam has always looked better. So the fact is based off all the information we have Stidham is not better than Cam passing and certainly not enough to justify what we lost on the run.

So you are asking everyone to have blind faith that we are all wrong with him based off what we’ve seen and what the coaches have shown in order to justify a change that will hurt the run AND effect the locker room

In majority of the cases I am sure if we allowed Harris to run he would also also got to the end zone.. so treating cam rushing touchdowns in 3-5 yards is no big deal... yeah we never had that option earlier but considering that as a yardstick, I am not sold on that..

 

[lancerman]

In majority of the cases I am sure if we allowed Harris to run he would also also got to the end zone.. so treating cam rushing touchdowns in 3-5 yards is no big deal... yeah we never had that option earlier but considering that as a yardstick, I am not sold on that..

There is no world where a player who has more than half the teams rushing TD’s is compensated for. Even if we take that at face value it’s a QB who is no threat to run handing a ball off to Harris vs a QB the entire defense is worried will hold the ball. It’s a world of difference.

And that’s assuming Stidham can produce in an offense that had the world thinking Brady was washed... when Stidham hasn’t even shown to be a better passer than Cam.

 

[PatsRebuild]

You're still talking about Stidham? Lol. While the passion for a 4th round never-will-be who will be out of the league in a couple years is admirable in a way, I'd rather see our team win football games.

Cam is our starter. Next year we'll need a bridge QB + a draft prospect, hopefully a high one. I want to see if he's worth keeping as our bridge or if the Pats should look for someone like Fitz while our newly drafted QB sits and learns.

How do you know Stidham is not the guy? Are you inside the organization? Why did Belichick only keep 2 QBs last year and not Hoyer? Meaning a rookie backed up Brady exclusively, the second time that's happened, with the first being JimmyG? Are you aware there is a pandemic and Stidham had no progress this offseason, and they had no way of really assessing his growth because of it?

We haven't seen him start a game or practices with the 1s, other than rave reviews last December before a colossal pandemic hit, and the D was raving about his skills in a very small sample window. In a nutshell, all of these things point to good progress, as opposed to the misleading statements you're making.

It's patently clear to anyone who knows the sport and Belichick's own scouting report for a QB, that Stidham at least looks the part based on his fantastic rookie preseason and the idea he was Brady's lone back up in 2019. So, the folks in Foxborough don't agree with you. Whatever Belichick's main concern is now, using Newton, a QB who clearly is not a system fit as many, including myself, or Boomer Esiason stated this summer, is not really tied to Stidham's future. He hasn't even had his first offseason as a Patriot yet.

Blurting out his stats with bench duty is irrelevant. He should have been given chances to start halves, too. Allowing him to play with 10 mins left without practicing all week, is not a good backdrop to judge. I do know this: He can read a D, is accurate, and the ball is out, and he has actual touch on the ball, all things Newton in no way, shape or form ever had. That's why Newton ran a lot and had big WRs in Carolina he could just throw the ball up in the air so they would outjump the smaller CB. Stidham needs reps with the 1s like Brady got in 2001. Everything else is there, from STs, to a good D that gets ZERO help week to week and hasn't for 2 years now, as top 5 OL and run game, essentially everything a protected, young QB would want.

You keep repeating his stat line over and over and ignore Brady's 2 INT game in his first game vs the Jets, also in mop up duty. Convenient. What were you saying back then?

Without a true #1 WR and TE, sure, there is work to be done, but that's why this a rebuild. To throw a 4th rd pick investment with a kid who actually looks the part so far, is one of the strangest things I've ever heard during an actual rebuild process. Sign Trubisky to compete with Stidham and may the best man win. My money is on Stidham because they would have drafted another QB THIS year or signed a veteran a lot sooner than the end of June if they didn't like his progress. With the pandemic they couldn't SEE his progress. It's not hard to understand.

But, to act like you know BB is going to cut Stidham and you've got him all diagnosed as a failure without ever starting a real game, is pretty funny stuff.

Folks like you will bash ANY QB that is possibly set to replace Brady. That is what is clear when reading your comments.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Apologies for what may seem like a basic question, but with Cam's incentive laden contract, especially with playing time (which I assume is NLTBE?), how does his playing or not playing affect the cap (this/next year)? I know it's the difference of 0, $250k, or $500k, so it's relatively(?) inconsequential (I'm pretty delusional but not to that level to think playoff incentives at this point).

 

[Turkamu]

Basically Bill right now.

 

[sb1]

Basically Bill right now.

Too bad Stidham isn't an NFL QB.

 

[lancerman]

How do you know Stidham is not the guy? Are you inside the organization? Why did Belichick only keep 2 QBs last year and not Hoyer? Meaning a rookie backed up Brady exclusively, the second time that's happened, with the first being JimmyG? Are you aware there is a pandemic and Stidham had no progress this offseason, and they had no way of really assessing his growth because of it?

We haven't seen him start a game or practices with the 1s, other than rave reviews last December before a colossal pandemic hit, and the D was raving about his skills in a very small sample window. In a nutshell, all of these things point to good progress, as opposed to the misleading statements you're making.

It's patently clear to anyone who knows the sport and Belichick's own scouting report for a QB, that Stidham at least looks the part based on his fantastic rookie preseason and the idea he was Brady's lone back up in 2019. So, the folks in Foxborough don't agree with you. Whatever Belichick's main concern is now, using Newton, a QB who clearly is not a system fit as many, including myself, or Boomer Esiason stated this summer, is not really tied to Stidham's future. He hasn't even had his first offseason as a Patriot yet.

Blurting out his stats with bench duty is irrelevant. He should have been given chances to start halves, too. Allowing him to play with 10 mins left without practicing all week, is not a good backdrop to judge. I do know this: He can read a D, is accurate, and the ball is out, and he has actual touch on the ball, all things Newton in no way, shape or form ever had. That's why Newton ran a lot and had big WRs in Carolina he could just throw the ball up in the air so they would outjump the smaller CB. Stidham needs reps with the 1s like Brady got in 2001. Everything else is there, from STs, to a good D that gets ZERO help week to week and hasn't for 2 years now, as top 5 OL and run game, essentially everything a protected, young QB would want.

You keep repeating his stat line over and over and ignore Brady's 2 INT game in his first game vs the Jets, also in mop up duty. Convenient. What were you saying back then?

Without a true #1 WR and TE, sure, there is work to be done, but that's why this a rebuild. To throw a 4th rd pick investment with a kid who actually looks the part so far, is one of the strangest things I've ever heard during an actual rebuild process. Sign Trubisky to compete with Stidham and may the best man win. My money is on Stidham because they would have drafted another QB THIS year or signed a veteran a lot sooner than the end of June if they didn't like his progress. With the pandemic they couldn't SEE his progress. It's not hard to understand.

But, to act like you know BB is going to cut Stidham and you've got him all diagnosed as a failure without ever starting a real game, is pretty funny stuff.

Folks like you will bash ANY QB that is possibly set to replace Brady. That is what is clear when reading your comments.

You don’t need stats to realize that

1. 4th round QB’s have an extremely low success rate to begin with

2. Stidham almost immediately lost his job to Cam as soon as they started practicing and Bill got a look.

3. Stidham after a year in the system was still third on the depth chart.

4. Despite multiple poor performances for Cam, Stidham has not earned or even shown better play to the point where an objective take would say he’s better.

You can say there not enough data, but we see what the coaches are doing and it’s more data than any pro Stidham argument.

The pro Stidham argument is just wishful thinking that he’ll show something that everybody is missing for whatever reason. And that’s not a good argument. It’s possible but it’s in the realm of extremely unlikely. There’s no real good Stidham argument besides maybes and what if’s.

The only reason people are getting defensive over him is because it’s very convenient to think we might actually have the answer on our bench despite all conventional logic and we won’t have to do the real hard work of finding a QB

 

[sb1]

You don’t need stats to realize that

1. 4th round QB’s have an extremely low success rate to begin with

And 4th round QBs who regressed in their final year in college are even lower in success rate

 

[sb1]

Curran:

NFL Rumors: How Patriots Feel About Jarrett Stidham After Appearance Vs. Rams - NESN.com

It appears Jarrett Stidham really hasn't done much to impress the New England Patriots enough to give him the keys to the starting QB job.

nesn.com

It sounds like the New England Patriots are just lukewarm about their quarterback situation in every way.

Cam Newton has been fine but not great — certainly not consistent — as the Pats’ starter. And in part because of those inconsistencies, Jarrett Stidham has gotten a few opportunities late in lopsided games.

Most recently, he finished up the Patriots’ 24-3 loss to the Los Angeles Rams on Thursday. He was adequate, completing five of seven pass attempts for 27 yards.

And on the “Tom Curran’s Patriots Talk Podcast,” Curran dropped what sounded like some informed speculation on the whole Stidham situation.

“My opinion is now much more informed now than it was then: Stidham, in the eyes of the team, was a relief pitcher on Thursday,” Curran said, via NBC Sports Boston. “They weren’t disgusted with Cam; they more or less felt as if they had had enough. So, Bill went to the mound, asked for the ball, gave him a pat on the butt, put it in Stidham’s glove and said, ‘Finish it up for us. See how you do.’

“And he didn’t really do anything with it. He did nothing to change their estimation of him as a competitor or a quarterback. And really, it’s status quo. … They’re just begging him to have his ‘Jimmy (Garoppolo) against the Kansas City Chiefs’ moment, and he continues to not have it. Hence, it’s Cam. And in my opinion, it should be.”

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Yup.

 

[lancerman]

Curran:

NFL Rumors: How Patriots Feel About Jarrett Stidham After Appearance Vs. Rams - NESN.com

It appears Jarrett Stidham really hasn't done much to impress the New England Patriots enough to give him the keys to the starting QB job.

nesn.com

It sounds like the New England Patriots are just lukewarm about their quarterback situation in every way.

Cam Newton has been fine but not great — certainly not consistent — as the Pats’ starter. And in part because of those inconsistencies, Jarrett Stidham has gotten a few opportunities late in lopsided games.

Most recently, he finished up the Patriots’ 24-3 loss to the Los Angeles Rams on Thursday. He was adequate, completing five of seven pass attempts for 27 yards.

And on the “Tom Curran’s Patriots Talk Podcast,” Curran dropped what sounded like some informed speculation on the whole Stidham situation.

“My opinion is now much more informed now than it was then: Stidham, in the eyes of the team, was a relief pitcher on Thursday,” Curran said, via NBC Sports Boston. “They weren’t disgusted with Cam; they more or less felt as if they had had enough. So, Bill went to the mound, asked for the ball, gave him a pat on the butt, put it in Stidham’s glove and said, ‘Finish it up for us. See how you do.’

“And he didn’t really do anything with it. He did nothing to change their estimation of him as a competitor or a quarterback. And really, it’s status quo. … They’re just begging him to have his ‘Jimmy (Garoppolo) against the Kansas City Chiefs’ moment, and he continues to not have it. Hence, it’s Cam. And in my opinion, it should be.”

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Yup.

I mean this is kinda blatantly obvious. No NFL coach is ever going to think "we won't be able to really know what we have in a QB unless he starts". It just doesn't work that way. Unless you are a straight up high profile pick with the intention to start or a known commodity who is brought in to start, you either get your opportunities in blowouts or via injury and you have to show something to earn it. You don't gift wrap someone the starter job "just to see for sure". Nobody deserves that.

The sense I get is that they know that Cam is inconsistent but they also realize that it's a bad situation and they are putting him in a tough spot. They see that as the reality so they arent holding his feet to the fire. So from their perspective, when Stidham gets a chance, he should be trying to make a clear case he should be the guy and that he offers something superior. And he hasn't. So they are willing to put up with an inconsistent Cam in a bad situation and have him do what he can with the run game and trust his experience to at least not be boneheaded as frequently as Stidham or as completely inept as Hoyer.

 

[PatsRebuild]

I mean this is kinda blatantly obvious. No NFL coach is ever going to think "we won't be able to really know what we have in a QB unless he starts". It just doesn't work that way. Unless you are a straight up high profile pick with the intention to start or a known commodity who is brought in to start, you either get your opportunities in blowouts or via injury and you have to show something to earn it. You don't gift wrap someone the starter job "just to see for sure". Nobody deserves that.

The sense I get is that they know that Cam is inconsistent but they also realize that it's a bad situation and they are putting him in a tough spot. They see that as the reality so they arent holding his feet to the fire. So from their perspective, when Stidham gets a chance, he should be trying to make a clear case he should be the guy and that he offers something superior. And he hasn't. So they are willing to put up with an inconsistent Cam in a bad situation and have him do what he can with the run game and trust his experience to at least not be boneheaded as frequently as Stidham or as completely inept as Hoyer.

But, this would mean the argument that Newton has no one to play with applies to Stidham. LOL

I'd laugh, but the mental moron gymnastics routine is just so sad.

So, why would a 2nd year QB, who has never played a game with the 1s, all of a sudden have a rapport off the bench? Which QB would look good doing this? The logic is stupefying. When Brady was being suspended, BB had tons of time to get his 2nd year QB ready, taking the reps, with Gronk and Edelman. Nuff said.

Why do people know why Brady didn't want to lose reps if dinged up during a week of practice? Because he knew he might look worse!

How do you pretend apples to oranges and treat your audience like idiots and expect to get clicks? Again, sad. Quick! Someone post a Tanguay story with a Felger recap!

Tom Curran has turned into an authorized troll in the last 2 years by NBC orders to go after BB, which is why he's been doing this. He failed to report on Brady's antics last year, as has Reiss, so they start slowly framing. Neither one ever acknowledged how bad Brady was in the 2007 and 2011 postseasons, so it's clear each person has some kind of a personal relationship with Brady. I know a person and actually multiple people who work in the industry who know how this garbage works, not that it's hard to figure out.

Country hates BB, money to be made. Translation? Bash BB at all costs$.

Stidham clearly looks way better than Newton has looked in multiple YEARS, when he plays. How about he plays with the 1s? How about a gameplan or playing successive games? Weird. A guy looks who looks the part can't handle the idea he might be Brady's successor. Whoops! Was the truth told? When you're that far behind, defenses know it's going to be passing and the idea he's not in there to hand off. I think he looks good and needs reps to get chemistry. I don't buy the analysis. The ball is out, he's accurate and he has all the skills to at least be given a shot to be coached up. This attack on a recent draft pick who isn't allowed to play is disgusting.

People all over the country cannot figure out why Boston fans hate their own players, and this is before the even play. So weird.

 

[PatsRebuild]

Curran:

NFL Rumors: How Patriots Feel About Jarrett Stidham After Appearance Vs. Rams - NESN.com

It appears Jarrett Stidham really hasn't done much to impress the New England Patriots enough to give him the keys to the starting QB job.

nesn.com

It sounds like the New England Patriots are just lukewarm about their quarterback situation in every way.

Cam Newton has been fine but not great — certainly not consistent — as the Pats’ starter. And in part because of those inconsistencies, Jarrett Stidham has gotten a few opportunities late in lopsided games.

Most recently, he finished up the Patriots’ 24-3 loss to the Los Angeles Rams on Thursday. He was adequate, completing five of seven pass attempts for 27 yards.

And on the “Tom Curran’s Patriots Talk Podcast,” Curran dropped what sounded like some informed speculation on the whole Stidham situation.

“My opinion is now much more informed now than it was then: Stidham, in the eyes of the team, was a relief pitcher on Thursday,” Curran said, via NBC Sports Boston. “They weren’t disgusted with Cam; they more or less felt as if they had had enough. So, Bill went to the mound, asked for the ball, gave him a pat on the butt, put it in Stidham’s glove and said, ‘Finish it up for us. See how you do.’

“And he didn’t really do anything with it. He did nothing to change their estimation of him as a competitor or a quarterback. And really, it’s status quo. … They’re just begging him to have his ‘Jimmy (Garoppolo) against the Kansas City Chiefs’ moment, and he continues to not have it. Hence, it’s Cam. And in my opinion, it should be.”

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Yup.

I mean, we can do this all day:

When asked if he felt Stidham was “still an ascending player,” Belichick said, “Yes.” The Patriots coach went on to add that the 2019 fourth-round pick has built good habits, fundamentals and gained more knowledge in the Patriots’ system this season.

It’s been an up and down season for the Patriots quarterback position as a whole and that includes Stidham. He not only lost the starting job to Newton this summer, but the initial backup job to Brian Hoyer. Stidham’s climbed up the depth chart since then and improved, but he won’t leapfrog Newton this week.

“Jarrett’s done everything we’ve asked him to do and he’s done everything that he can do,” Belichick said. “And I don’t think you can ask any more of that.”

 

[PatsRebuild]

You don’t need stats to realize that

1. 4th round QB’s have an extremely low success rate to begin with

2. Stidham almost immediately lost his job to Cam as soon as they started practicing and Bill got a look.

3. Stidham after a year in the system was still third on the depth chart.

4. Despite multiple poor performances for Cam, Stidham has not earned or even shown better play to the point where an objective take would say he’s better.

You can say there not enough data, but we see what the coaches are doing and it’s more data than any pro Stidham argument.

The pro Stidham argument is just wishful thinking that he’ll show something that everybody is missing for whatever reason. And that’s not a good argument. It’s possible but it’s in the realm of extremely unlikely. There’s no real good Stidham argument besides maybes and what if’s.

The only reason people are getting defensive over him is because it’s very convenient to think we might actually have the answer on our bench despite all conventional logic and we won’t have to do the real hard work of finding a QB

Or, there's a pandemic and the very important concept of context needs to be applied.

Why is it you people remove the idea there is a pandemic, which means the deck has changed comparable to everything else? I am not going into politics here, but this means you have poor critical thinking skills.

Do you honestly believe if BB didn't like Stidham's progress in February, he simply ignored signing a veteran QB with Hoyer? Why didn't he do it? He's a guy who is pretty thorough. Hmm. He also could have traded for one.

This idea that BB become senile knowing he was going to walk from Brady pre 2019 draft, get a QB, really like that QB after he breaks all Pats QB preseason records, enough to impress to only keep him as the lone back up, is absolutely bizarre.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

And 4th round QBs who regressed in their final year in college are even lower in success rate

@sb1 and @lancerman are pumping each other up - at this point they are answering each other's posts. They support each other while everyone else sits on the sidelines and smiles. Keep going guys. Keep it up. If both of you agree, how can it possibly be wrong?

 

[PatsRebuild]

@sb1 and @lancerman are pumping each other up - at this point they are answering each other's posts. They support each other while everyone else sits on the sidelines and smiles. Keep going guys. Keep it up. If both of you agree, how can it possibly be wrong?

LOL!

 

[lancerman]

But, this would mean the argument that Newton has no one to play with applies to Stidham. LOL

I'd laugh, but the mental moron gymnastics routine is just so sad.

So, why would a 2nd year QB, who has never played a game with the 1s, all of a sudden have a rapport off the bench? Which QB would look good doing this? The logic is stupefying. When Brady was being suspended, BB had tons of time to get his 2nd year QB ready, taking the reps, with Gronk and Edelman. Nuff said.

Why do people know why Brady didn't want to lose reps if dinged up during a week of practice? Because he knew he might look worse!

How do you pretend apples to oranges and treat your audience like idiots and expect to get clicks? Again, sad. Quick! Someone post a Tanguay story with a Felger recap!

Tom Curran has turned into an authorized troll in the last 2 years by NBC orders to go after BB, which is why he's been doing this. He failed to report on Brady's antics last year, as has Reiss, so they start slowly framing. Neither one ever acknowledged how bad Brady was in the 2007 and 2011 postseasons, so it's clear each person has some kind of a personal relationship with Brady. I know a person and actually multiple people who work in the industry who know how this garbage works, not that it's hard to figure out.

Country hates BB, money to be made. Translation? Bash BB at all costs$.

Stidham clearly looks way better than Newton has looked in multiple YEARS, when he plays. How about he plays with the 1s? How about a gameplan or playing successive games? Weird. A guy looks who looks the part can't handle the idea he might be Brady's successor. Whoops! Was the truth told? When you're that far behind, defenses know it's going to be passing and the idea he's not in there to hand off. I think he looks good and needs reps to get chemistry. I don't buy the analysis. The ball is out, he's accurate and he has all the skills to at least be given a shot to be coached up. This attack on a recent draft pick who isn't allowed to play is disgusting.

People all over the country cannot figure out why Boston fans hate their own players, and this is before the even play. So weird.

Not really. Cam is just better with more upside, clearly won the job immediately in training camp and has more upside so there’s no reason for him to lose the job unless someone presents himself as better.

-Cam has more rushing TD’s than our RB Corp combined. Stidham will never replicate that nor will all the other RB’s double production to compensate

-Cam rushes for nearly 500 yards every year and this is no exception. Stidham will never do that

-Cam has shown much better deep ball ability than Stidham who usually just does dump offs. His hands against Seattle, Miami, the early part of the Rams game have shown far more passing ability than we ever saw from Stidham. It’s inconsistent but Cam’s lows pretty much match what we see from Stidham and his highs are much better than anything he’s shown in 2 years.

-Cam has the respect of the locker room which matters for team morale. Players speak glowingly of Cam. You almost never hear them say anything about Stidham.

This is now getting into delusion. Stidham has never once looked better than Cam, your dislike of Cam doesn’t change that. The only good game Stidham has had was when he threw 3 attempts and completed 2. That was a game Cam scored 3 TD’s and already was a leading a blowout. A year ago Stidham came off the bench to play the Jets. He nearly blew a big lead and Bill pulled him. This year he sucked against the Chiefs and this board was saying we win that game with Cam. He sucked against the Niner’s. He threw one pass to a wide open player against the Chargers who got YAC to get a TD. Then against the Rams he had the same issues Cam had with pressure and he was getting sacked at a higher rate and he just got skittish and threw a bunch of dump offs that went nowhere. His first drive started on the Rams 30 and it still went nowhere.

There is no evidence that Stidham is even as good as Cam much less “clearly better”. This is like mental compensation here where things are being made up about Stidham because they want the change. If Stidham was clearly better, a fan base that had won for 20 years and was facing their worst season would be revolting if he wasn’t starting. He’s clearly not made the case for himself. And we can break it down even further about just how bad to pedestrian he’s been.

He doesn’t look the part. Because he not good.

 

[lancerman]

@sb1 and @lancerman are pumping each other up - at this point they are answering each other's posts. They support each other while everyone else sits on the sidelines and smiles. Keep going guys. Keep it up. If both of you agree, how can it possibly be wrong?

Bill Belichick agrees. That’s really the only opinion that matters and you can pretty much tell he has no interest in starting this guy.