OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Lagaffe_07]

And that was like a 3 way tie scenario or something

Jets: 9-7 AFCE champ
Patriots: 9-7
Dolphins: 9-7

Broncos: 9-7
Browns: 9-7 WC

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Doubt he's married considering he lives in his mom's basement.

totally predictable that you show up when your Bucs win...

 

[1960Pats]

Yeah, but this over the hill Tom could be playing like 2007 Tom with all the weapons but the coaching and play calling is holding them back. Maybe 2021 they'll get a better OC.

No QB is as good at 43 as he is at 30, even Tommy LomBrady. The fact that he's still playing at a decent level has surprised me.

 

[1960Pats]

To the clowns that thought Brady was calling plays cause that dumbass Arians said so how bout the media session.

McCoy said Brady had been calling for him to play and waiting, What does Arians come out and say. “Oh it was my call to get McCoy in there good thing he proved me right”. Dudes an absolute joke

I remember reading a lot of negative stuff about Arians on this board. At a closer look those fans were right on the money. He's a clown.

 

[upstater1]

Is it me or is Antonio Brown the biggest dissapointnent so far.

Scottie miller fits the offense better

Tampa is not putting together long drives. It's feast or famine for them. AB has been looking open, and playing well. He's getting separation.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Tampa is not putting together long drives. It's feast or famine for them. AB has been looking open, and playing well. He's getting separation.

He has been good.

I repeat myself the thing i am the most disappointed with is their offensive approach. They have literally all the pieces to do everything an offense.

they can run the ball, they have guys that can work the middle of the field, guys that can work on the outside, guys that can stretch the field. And their play calling is unimaginative.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

It's pathetic. I don't know what they're trying to accomplish.

misery loves company

 

[upstater1]

He has been good.

I repeat myself the thing i am the most disappointed with is their offensive approach. They have literally all the pieces to do everything an offense.

they can run the ball, they have guys that can work the middle of the field, guys that can work on the outside, guys that can stretch the field. And their play calling is unimaginative.

They even have 2 solid tight ends! It's hard to believe what we're seeing. 5 really good WRs, 2 TEs and 3 serviceable running backs. An offensive line that can block except for the LT.

 

[JMC00]

Also I guess nobody see’s the coincidence of:

2000: No playoffs

2002: No playoffs

2008: No Playoffs

2020: No playoffs

If this is a Brady vs Belichick argument it's a weak one

2000 was Bill's first year and a rebuild year

2008 team went 11-5 with a QB that hadn't started since high school. Only 11-5 team to ever miss the playoffs I believe. How anyone ever uses that season against Bill is hilarious.

2020- rebuild/reset year from going to 4 SBs in 5 years. Despite that they are covid issues and 2-3 bad Cam decisions from being in the playoffs

Imagine trying to knock the guy that was the last head coach to win a game for the Browns in the playoffs.

 

[sb1]

If this is a Brady vs Belichick argument it's a weak one

2000 was Bill's first year and a rebuild year

2008 team went 11-5 with a QB that hadn't started since high school. Only 11-5 team to ever miss the playoffs I believe. How anyone ever uses that season against Bill is hilarious.

2020- rebuild/reset year from going to 4 SBs in 5 years. Despite that they are covid issues and 2-3 bad Cam decisions from being in the playoffs

Imagine trying to knock the guy that was the last head coach to win a game for the Browns in the playoffs.

Without Brady this year: .500 give or take a game
But this roster without coach Belichick: Doubt we win a game.

 

[203Pat]

If this is a Brady vs Belichick argument it's a weak one

2000 was Bill's first year and a rebuild year

2008 team went 11-5 with a QB that hadn't started since high school. Only 11-5 team to ever miss the playoffs I believe. How anyone ever uses that season against Bill is hilarious.

2020- rebuild/reset year from going to 4 SBs in 5 years. Despite that they are covid issues and 2-3 bad Cam decisions from being in the playoffs

Imagine trying to knock the guy that was the last head coach to win a game for the Browns in the playoffs.

That is going to change in a week or two. Imagine knocking the guy who won 6 rings, went to 9 Super Bowls, and missed only 15 games with an injury in 20 years.

 

[lancerman]

If this is a Brady vs Belichick argument it's a weak one

2000 was Bill's first year and a rebuild year

2008 team went 11-5 with a QB that hadn't started since high school. Only 11-5 team to ever miss the playoffs I believe. How anyone ever uses that season against Bill is hilarious.

2020- rebuild/reset year from going to 4 SBs in 5 years. Despite that they are covid issues and 2-3 bad Cam decisions from being in the playoffs

Imagine trying to knock the guy that was the last head coach to win a game for the Browns in the playoffs.

At the end of this year the facts on the table will be

1. Bill made the playoffs 17 of 18 times with
Brady.

2. Bill made the playoffs 1 time out of 8 full seasons without him

3. Bill’s never made the playoffs on the Patriots without Brady.

4. Bill’s 2 most recent non winning seasons (very likely unless we win out) were the years before and after Tom Brady was the presumed starter on his team.

That is part of the picture and it can’t be ignored. 8 years is not a small sample size. In the last 12 years Bill hat two chances to make the playoffs without Brady and they were the only time he’s missed them since 2002

Btw the Brown’s comment is disengenous. The team Bill was working on went to Baltimore and they won two SB’s since

 

[SHOWTIME15]

At the end of this year the facts on the table will be

1. Bill made the playoffs 17 of 18 times with
Brady.

2. Bill made the playoffs 1 time out of 8 full seasons without him

3. Bill’s never made the playoffs on the Patriots without Brady.

4. Bill’s 2 most recent non winning seasons (very likely unless we win out) were the years before and after Tom Brady was the presumed starter on his team.

That is part of the picture and it can’t be ignored. 8 years is not a small sample size. In the last 12 years Bill hat two chances to make the playoffs without Brady and they were the only time he’s missed them since 2002

Btw the Brown’s comment is disengenous. The team Bill was working on went to Baltimore and they won two SB’s since

Sure, and Brady will have the early edge vs Belichick because he chose to go to a team with a lot of talent, so the burden is on him to take the Bucs deep into the playoffs. With the exception of the GB game. Brady has yet to win a meaningful regular season or playoff game without Bill - he's 1-4 this year vs top teams. You see how that works? The two need each other to establish truly great success. For the most part Brady's success this year is a product of the Bucs talent and their easy schedule.

 

[203Pat]

Sure, and Brady will have the early edge vs Belichick because he chose to go to a team with a lot of talent, so the burden is on him to take the Bucs deep into the playoffs. With the exception of the GB game. Brady has yet to win a meaningful regular season or playoff game without Bill - he's 1-4 this year vs top teams. You see how that works? The two need each other to establish truly great success. For the most part Brady's success this year is a product of the Bucs talent and their easy schedule.

I'm sure Brady really needs to prove something to a guy online named "TommyBrady12".

 

[lancerman]

Sure, and Brady will have the early edge vs Belichick because he chose to go to a team with a lot of talent, so the burden is on him to take the Bucs deep into the playoffs. With the exception of the GB game. Brady has yet to win a meaningful regular season or playoff game without Bill - he's 1-4 this year vs top teams. You see how that works? The two need each other to establish truly great success. For the most part Brady's success this year is a product of the Bucs talent and their easy schedule.

Bill has been dealing with the “can’t win without Brady” since he failed in the 90’s. Brady had a can’t win without Belichick, yet he’ll be in the playoffs his first test without him. Brees is also likely to retire so he will own that division until he craps the bed

 

[203Pat]

Bill has been dealing with the “can’t win without Brady” since he failed in the 90’s. Brady had a can’t win without Belichick, yet he’ll be in the playoffs his first test without him. Brees is also likely to retire so he will own that division until he craps the bed

But it is actually Brady's fault that Bill built a team that isn't full of talent. Oh wait it isn't.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I'm sure Brady really needs to prove something to a guy online named "TommyBrady12".

He has 9 TDs, 9 INTs vs LAR, KC, NO, and GB this year.

 

[sb1]

That is going to change in a week or two. Imagine knocking the guy who won 6 rings, went to 9 Super Bowls, and missed only 15 games with an injury in 20 years.

You mean in the wild card round? The Titans are the Browns opponent if the season ended today. Won't be easy especially if they fumble like last night...

 

[SHOWTIME15]

But it is actually Brady's fault that Bill built a team that isn't full of talent. Oh wait it isn't.

Bill put teams around Brady good enough to win 6 super bowls. Shame on him for not getting Tommy 10-12 rings.

Remember that 2nd round pick we had in the 2020 draft? Almost guarantee you that was used to trade for Sanu in order to satisfy Tommy. Then he left the pooch.

 

[1960Pats]

If this is a Brady vs Belichick argument it's a weak one

2000 was Bill's first year and a rebuild year

2008 team went 11-5 with a QB that hadn't started since high school. Only 11-5 team to ever miss the playoffs I believe. How anyone ever uses that season against Bill is hilarious.

2020- rebuild/reset year from going to 4 SBs in 5 years. Despite that they are covid issues and 2-3 bad Cam decisions from being in the playoffs

Imagine trying to knock the guy that was the last head coach to win a game for the Browns in the playoffs.

I heard an interesting thing this morning.
Wrecks Ryan has a record of 61-66 and a 4-2 playoff record.
Bill minus TB has a record of 61-70 and a 1-1 playoff record.
Case closed.