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Maybe but at least they can audition Cam and find out if they want Cam back in 2021 in some role. Playing Stidham is like playing Hoyer. Pointless.

They are drafting a QB. Unless Jimmy becomes available.
Scam has had 12 games, he sucks. Not only is he not a starter, he will be lucky to even be on a roster next year.
 
Should the Patriots finish 7-9, that would be a 5-game drop from the previous season.

That last happened in 2008, when the Pats went from 16-0 to 11-5.

It has happened only three other times in franchise history. 1981 with Ron Erhardt (10-6 to 2-14), and twice with Mike Holovak and the 1960s Boston Patriots.
 
Cam makes horrible decisions, has no pocket presence and just terrible awareness and reads...BUT...this nightmare has to be blamed on a whole bunch of others:

1) BB and McDaniels- for assembling a terrible roster
2) The OL failed Cam Newton tonight....period
3) THe TE's are beyond awful
4) No #1 or even a #2 WR
Yet they win this game without abysmal QB play so maybe 1-4 aren’t really correct and it’s all the qb.
 
Scam has had 12 games, he sucks. Not only is he not a starter, he will be lucky to even be on a roster next year.
And yet Bill is starting him so he must believe he’s the best option on the roster right now. I’ll take the GOAT coach’s word for it.
 
I’m down. The season is probably over anyway. Might as well see what he has.
I don’t even expect him to prove to be a potential starter.

At least prove that you’re good enough to be next years backup.
 
He went with Cam this year. Total mismanagement of the most critical position.

yeah but now we have the stat line and it's not pretty. if he's starting for the pats next year I will be SHOCKED.
 
With the showing cam has put forward this year, Bill would have to be a total TOTAL MORON to run with him next year.

and we all know bill is not a moron.
Not true.

Just because he isn't the answer does NOT mean someone else here is. And it's very clear Bill does not think the answer is sitting on the bench. Hell he really doesn't seem to think the person sitting on the bench is a better answer than Cam.

If we draft a QB, there's a very good chance he sits to develop a bit. At that point you can either keep Cam for cheap or get Brissett who is no better and his last contract was for money and he could make decent back up money. The results will be negligible. Or you can have an unhappy Stidham who is worse than Cam (and yes based off the information we have and what the coaches are doing he is is worse) being forced to take the hits while his replacement is on the bench and our new rookie has to sit behind someone who doesn't have any experience.

The other option is we get lucky and find someone in free agency who is better.
 
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Team just isn't very good and has a ridiculous amount of holes to fill. Offensive line defensive line, quarterback, they have no tight ends.

Newton the worst starting quarterback in the league, The receivers have to be a bottom five. They don't have any tight ends they can actually play. Offense is absolutely anemic no threat in the passing game in the red zone. Defense wasn't that much better either giving up a ton of rushing yards and long drives.If I had to predict it out.... Cam will be dirt cheap, we will probably draft a QB. Bill will likely want a vet on the squad while we develop a QB.m
I could see something like a depth chart of

1. Cam with the intention of moving on to a 1st round draft pick after a few weeks unless Cam is playing lights out somehow.

2. The QB in waiting

3. Someone we kicked the tires on in free agency.

4. Stidham to finish out his contract and give him a chance to reinvent himself.

I wanted the kid from BYU. Are trask and Mac Jones franchise QBs or serviceable QBs who can win you games. Frankly idk. I don’t think will be a quick fix like some think here.
 
And yet Bill is starting him so he must believe he’s the best option on the roster right now. I’ll take the GOAT coach’s word for it.
This is literally the only argument you have and I promise it's not as good as you think it is
 
You guys! You’re saying some very vicious and hurtful things to one another. Please stop! We all root for the same team. Like... where is the love, brothers?
 
Should the Patriots finish 7-9, that would be a 5-game drop from the previous season.

That last happened in 2008, when the Pats went from 16-0 to 11-5.

It has happened only three other times in franchise history. 1981 with Ron Erhardt (10-6 to 2-14), and twice with Mike Holovak and the 1960s Boston Patriots.
Both seasons Brady did not play. That is what an elite QB is worth easily. 5 games and a legit run at the trophy.
 
Cam makes horrible decisions, has no pocket presence and just terrible awareness and reads...BUT...this nightmare has to be blamed on a whole bunch of others:

1) BB and McDaniels- for assembling a terrible roster
2) The OL failed Cam Newton tonight....period
3) THe TE's are beyond awful
4) No #1 or even a #2 WR

There is no “but.” Cam has zero awareness and makes terrible decisions as well as no pocket presence like you’ve said. You can have the best receiver, OC, tight end, etc and you still would suck. Sure, they might hide some deficiencies, but not to Cam’s extent.
 
Would he have made some of those deep throws or some of those runs?
If you can not see that Stidham has way more touch on his passes you have no idea what you are looking at. Remember Stidham's deep pass to Gunner last week? Stidham has not thrown a pick against the Chargers or Rams so now it is that Stidham cannot throw a long ball? You are blind.
 
Every qb out of college has a better arm than cam now..
 
Not true.

Just because he isn't the answer does NOT mean someone else here is. And it's very clear Bill does not think the answer is sitting on the bench. Hell he really doesn't seem to think the person sitting on the bench is a better answer than Cam.

If we draft a QB, there's a very good chance he sits to develop a bit. At that point you can either keep Cam for cheap or get Brissett who is no better and his last contract was for money and he could make decent back up money. The results will be negligible. Or you can have an unhappy Stidham who is worse than Cam (and yes based off the information we have and what the coaches are doing he is is worse) being forced to take the hits while his replacement is on the bench and our new rookie has to sit behind someone who doesn't have any experience.

The other option is we get lucky and find someone in free agency who is better.

Bill doesn't have time to develop a quarterback and go with a known disaster at qb. If Cam is the same as he was this year that's a major bad look for BB.
 
I think it’s a very good argumen
It would be a good supporting argument. Like attacking a witness's credibility. Except your entire case depends on convincing the jury that Grandma is blind. And idk I'm tired I should just go to sleep instead of arguing online
 


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