Official Post Game Thread - Pats beat Jete

[captain stone]

Jesus, that's messed up. I'd rather see more harris too, but that's one hell of a poor reaction.

No it isn't.

 

[gitgronked82]

B/C it's a throwaway year....the Pats are not going to get into the playoffs and they are certainly not going to win the SB. You have one of the best QB prospects we've seen in years. What good is it if you end up 8-8 and pick 15th in the draft when the top QBs are going to be gone by then? If the Pats had their QB of the future, I agree - go for it and win as much as possible, kinda like the Giants, who have Daniel Jones. We're in a different spot though.

Should the colts tank this year? The Bears?Vikings? Any team that doesn’t have a super bowl qb should just try to always go 0-16?

 

[Ring 6]

But you can’t call a timeout in a middle of play. The referee blew the whistle when the Jets touched Meyers with 3 seconds left then they called a timeout. The thing I didn’t think about like Elijah pointed out is that the ref would stop the play if they think Meyer was giving himself up.

That had nothing to do with the timeout. If no Jets touched Meyers or the refs don’t think he is giving himself up, the clocks is running out and you can’t call a timeout.

The play is over when he gives himself up

 

[captain stone]

Oh gosh, they might as well forfeit the game now. You also can do everyone a favor by not tuning in.

What weak nancies we have in this fan base. The team enters a season in cap hell during a pandemic, has a losing skid and suddenly winning is "detrimental." Pathetic.

Last night's "win" was Indeed detrimental...Surprised you're not seeing the Big Picture here...

 

[captain stone]

Do people really think the Jets blew it on purpose lol? Flacco and Gase probably won’t even be on this team next year.

"Golden Parachutes."

 

[Tunescribe]

Last night's "win" was Indeed detrimental...Surprised you're not seeing the Big Picture here...

I'll assume what your "big picture" entails and totally disagree with it. WINNING is why you play the game, not losing to jockey for draft position and a pick that may or may not pan out. Last night's opponent is a prime example of why that's nothing more than a crapshoot.

 

[captain stone]

What's worse is the best QB prospect is going to our most hated divisional rival.

Yep...And what's Even Worse than that is that Bill just allowed it to happen.

 

[captain stone]

The play is over when he gives himself up

Which Meyers never did.

 

[gitgronked82]

Yep...And what's Even Worse than that is that Bill just allowed it to happen.

What should Bill have done? Fielded an even worse roster so everyone here could ***** about the fact that our roster sucks and Bill can’t draft? Both teams were trying. Our team is better than theirs. And even if we lost, we still probably wouldn’t have gotten lawrence

 

[Uptown]

 

[Uptown]

 

[amfootball]

What should Bill have done? Fielded an even worse roster so everyone here could ***** about the fact that our roster sucks and Bill can’t draft? Both teams were trying. Our team is better than theirs. And even if we lost, we still probably wouldn’t have gotten lawrence

True but the Jags have one win. Better Lawrence go there than the Jets.

 

[gitgronked82]

True but the Jags have one win. Better Lawrence go there than the Jets.

I just don't think any players or coaches actually tank. no one is putting together sub-optimal gameplans on purpose. bill isn't gonna go out there and try to lose the last 10 games of the season, and he shouldn't

 

[sb1]

Meyers was Not giving himself up there...In fact, he was beginning to rise...

But their coaches should've TOLD them to allow whichever receiver caught the ball to LET HIM GET UP AND RUN OUT THE CLOCK...

If their coaches really really wanted to win the game that is...

He slid. Video is clear. Doesn’t matter why he was getting up or not. By rule it’s a dead ball. Even if he didn’t I doubt any defensive player in this league is going to back up from him on a bang bang play.

 

[luuked]

I just don't think any players or coaches actually tank. no one is putting together sub-optimal gameplans on purpose. bill isn't gonna go out there and try to lose the last 10 games of the season, and he shouldn't

This entire idea that players and coaches purposefully tank individual games is just stupid. Sure, it is possible that GMs strategically trade away players to gain assets on a team that goes nowhere.. but that happens outside the actual football operation. The players and coaches don't want to put up bad tape as that would lessen their value and job security. Exactly what is in it for them ? Does anyone think Gase will survive a successful tank job ?

People pointing to the 12 men penalty yesterday as some sign that the Jets were throwing the game are just grasping at straws. Why would they be able to get enough buy in from their players and pull that off intentionally but then a play later not conveniently leave on side of the formation vulnerable for the Pats to just run it home for a TD ?

There are so many less obvious ways to throw a game if you have buy in from some players than idiotic penalties in big spots like that. Where were all the unnecessary PIs, blown coverages, players slipping and whatnot ?

So many silly conspiracy theories around these days..

 

[libra957]

A win is a win, time to get Cam out of the dog house.

 

[Doctor DDS]

If the Pats-Jets game was week 15 and they were both 2-12 or something I could understand the logic that winning the game may not be the best long term outcome but no team starts tanking before the midway point in a season. The Pats started the year by beating a very good Miami and LV teams and coming within 1 yard of beating the Seahawks. They had legit thoughts of a division title or WC berth. They are a thin team and additional injuries have hurt them but they are too good to lose out and I am glad for that.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

If the Pats-Jets game was week 15 and they were both 2-12 or something I could understand the logic that winning the game may not be the best long term outcome but no team starts tanking before the midway point in a season. The Pats started the year by beating a very good Miami and LV teams and coming within 1 yard of beating the Seahawks. They had legit thoughts of a division title or WC berth. They are a thin team and additional injuries have hurt them but they are too good to lose out and I am glad for that.

exactly, even going into last night our chances at #1 were not good. We’ve been in every game but 1 till the end. Jets have been blown out in 4/8 games and a couple others were pretty easy losses. Even if we lost, the jets are not out winning us over the 2nd half unless bb goes out in front of the team before each game and instructs them to lose, which is not happening.

 

[sb1]

This entire idea that players and coaches purposefully tank individual games is just stupid. Sure, it is possible that GMs strategically trade away players to gain assets on a team that goes nowhere.. but that happens outside the actual football operation. The players and coaches don't want to put up bad tape as that would lessen their value and job security. Exactly what is in it for them ? Does anyone think Gase will survive a successful tank job ?

People pointing to the 12 men penalty yesterday as some sign that the Jets were throwing the game are just grasping at straws. Why would they be able to get enough buy in from their players and pull that off intentionally but then a play later not conveniently leave on side of the formation vulnerable for the Pats to just run it home for a TD ?

There are so many less obvious ways to throw a game if you have buy in from some players than idiotic penalties in big spots like that. Where were all the unnecessary PIs, blown coverages, players slipping and whatnot ?

So many silly conspiracy theories around these days..

Teams don't tank in the NFL. There is zero benefit to the "tankers". A crap record gets you canned. Which is exactly what happened with the Colts when they supposedly "tanked". Team president, GM and coaching staff - all fired. Half the roster - gone.

So how did they benefit from "tanking".

It. Doesn't. Happen.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Teams don't tank in the NFL. There is zero benefit to the "tankers". A crap record gets you canned. Which is exactly what happened with the Colts when they supposedly "tanked". Team president, GM and coaching staff - all fired. Half the roster - gone.

So how did they benefit from "tanking".

It. Doesn't. Happen.

the only tanking that can exist is in the construction of the team. You can « tank » if you are a head coach that’s been hired in a crap team and you explain your strategy to the owner.

Flores tanked last year, he traded almost all of his good players to gain futur assets but the team on the field gave everything they had to win games, the talent just wasn’t there. But it wasn’t there purposely. He didn’t tank to get the first pick but he knew he would get a top 5 pick. And with his trades he got if I remember 3 1st round pick. He sacrificed a year to be able to rebuild the team and it worked.

I don’t want the Patriots to throw away games but I would not have been opposed to Bill trading some player to gain assets. I’m afraid that we are gonna finish in the middle without enough quality draft picks to rebuild this year. A thing that is overlook in my opinion is that I don’t think New England is a top market for free agent anymore. Even with all our cap space, i don’t think we can attract game changing free agent.